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Rustam1990 Agree that at this point SLR PT output should not exceed like 25 %. Not sure if the recent high quota of PT scenes was on purpose or just a coincidence, but then again, if there is a time to produce PT content, it is right now. No-one else has it, Q3 as a mass product offering improved PT experience is coming very soon and the PT library is still quite small.

The Penny Barber scene with the messed up camera settings was filmed by Alex Nash, so I would assume this was rather a case of shit happens than SLR doing it wrong again.

Regarding the decrease of multi-girl scenes and good storylines, I could imagine this is done to keep costs down (I am paying less in my second year while at the same time I am getting more SLRO scenes per week). Additional performers want to get paid too, someone needs to write these stories and the additional acting for sure will increase working hours on set, so the profitability of such a scene will probably be substantially lower. I don't think this issue would go away by replacing PT scenes with VR scenes because there wouldn't be more budget per scene.

      With the every new headset hitting the market there will be even more demand for PT

      No one else is shooting these for some reason. I would be happy to see other producers jumping on it

        SchnuppiLilac I could imagine this is done to keep costs down (I am paying less in my second year while at the same time I am getting more SLRO scenes per week).

        If this is true I'd much rather sacrifice one or two scenes per week in exchange for a higher frequency of decently made, good FFM+ VR scenes.

          SchnuppiLilac Still, it's remarkable how many likes the PT scenes get lately. How can the Serena Salgot (user base: 96) scene get more likes than the latest Agatha Vega (user base: 12.2 K, won the Alex Nash Europe trip poll by a landslide) scene? I am very surprised and have no explanation.

          I'm not surprised. People who enjoy VR porn are not required to buy an SLR subscription. They can go elsewhere for good VR porn and since the VR SLRO scenes haven't all been that great lately it's actually not surprising that some people might get there fill elsewhere. For AR or PT though, SLR seems to have some kind of unique spot in the market now with nobodoy else doing it with the same production value. So everyone who enjoys AR or PT has to subscribe to SLR to watch that stuff.

          The question is whether SLR wants to limit itself to the people who are mainly here for AR or PT or whether they want to go all in for the much bigger VR market again.

          Also likes etc. don't only depend on whether it's AR or VR. They depend on the girls in the scene and the technical execution. I'd like to give Anya Olsen my like but hey, she's only up for a PT or AR scene...so like or no like?

          After all, SLR should actually be more concerend about the fact that their VR get so few likes lately and less about PT/AR getting more likes now. I think people would complain a lot less about PT becoming more and more a big thing on SLR if we just got one banger VR scene after the other.

            justsomedude101 We have ongoing discussions about better spacing things out to avoid long periods of time without any specific director's content, multiple similar scenes in a row (for example Passthrough), etc. Will just take some time to implement.

            Works like a charm...

                This scene by the way has the most likes of any SLRO scenes in the past 6 months:

                Just take a look who directed this one...

                Maybe exchanging one of the best VR director with some of highest rated scenes with two newbie directors who put out rather mediocre content on a regular basis isn't just the best idea to make VR porn fans happy. And sadly things haven't improved much in the last couple months.

                With Nash shooting mostly European girls lately (and having some technical issues doing so for whatever reason) and simsense mostly shooting PT stuff we VR fans can only watch content from Mack and that new European guy. So for US girls in VR, there's pretty much only Mack lately and that's well, rather disappointing. He shoots decent porn but he still doesn't really get VR and he's not able to do VR magic like Nash or Onthetelly could. The secret sauce for true VR immersion is missing,

                  doublevr With the every new headset hitting the market there will be even more demand for PT

                  No one else is shooting these for some reason. I would be happy to see other producers jumping on it

                  I have no problem with AR/PT scenes, and if people like them then great! Personally, they're just not for me. My issue is that I signed up for a VR site, and that's not what I'm fully getting anymore, so I feel I'm not really getting my money's worth anymore. I used to really enjoy SLRO scenes a few years back, but lately I'm mainly here for scenes from other studios (VRSpy, PornCorn, RJVR, SexBabesVR etc...) and the odd SLR scene now and again. If PT is so popular then maybe give it it's own site, or give existing customers a discount with no access to it. If other producers start getting into it, I just hope they don't clog up their existing VR sites with it, and create a new site with a seperate subscription. If it's as great as everyone says, then I'm sure those sites will do well too. 🤷‍♂️

                      doublevr Is there a reason why please?

                      Is there a new person for European talent, that is my main question. I'd love to see an Alyssia Kent scene at some point.

                          Rustam1990 Yeah seems like this one is probably a one off @vrfanservice farewell scene. Nothing SLRO produced after is remotely near it in terms of being a complete VRP experience.

                          True story. And that's what SLR should imho think about all day long and put all their focus on:

                          Why was there no other SLRO VR scene in the last 5 months that received more than 8k likes?
                          What can we do and how can we produce VR content in order to get so many likes again?

                              doublevr No one else is shooting these for some reason

                              PT keeps people using your app, so you would have more of an incentive to pursue it than other studios. You guys also just have a very very heavy focus on tech that others don't typically have the interest/resources for. The closest I've seen is VRCosplayX experimenting with CG backgrounds but they abandoned it quickly after a ton of negative feedback.

                              I'm generally passthrough neutral if only because most non-passthrough scenes take place in boring and uninspired environments too, so it's a wash for me.

                              LordCrash This scene by the way has the most likes of any SLRO scenes in the past 6 months:

                              This is pretty frustrating too because I keep getting told that directors aren't interested in making scenes with longer stories and set-ups and that users don't actually want that, while at the same time, acting like all of the content lives and dies by the like counts. Sounds to me like users want more scenes like this and aren't getting them.

                                  LordCrash Why was there no other SLRO VR scene in the last 5 months that received more than 8k likes?
                                  What can we do and how can we produce VR content in order to get so many likes again?

                                  I predict both Layla Jenner scenes , the solo one and and the one with Molly Little. Also potentially the Lily Lou one will surpass +8k likes after 5 months of release.

                                  The answer to your question is because Modern Relationship has been released well over 5 months ago now. I don't buy it's because of the direction - I think it's because the women/girls are hot as fuck, that's the common underlying factor. Beauty just oozes out of all of them. Layla Jenner may even surpass 10000 likes as whether she does it on purpose or not she is controversial to say the least and right now only SLR and VRSPY have her.

                                    doublevr With the every new headset hitting the market there will be even more demand for PT

                                    This makes the assumption that, given better passthrough cameras in the headset, everyone would want PT scenes. Sure, there are bound to be people here on Quest 2 who want to upgrade to Quest 3 so they can have better passthrough and will value and want PT content when they do. But there are people who don't want PT at all because they don't like the concept and are not interested in it. I'm one of them. How many people are there like me? I don't know. Without doing some actual audience research, neither does SLR. Likes aren't necessarily a reliable metric; I enjoy plenty of videos, but I have 'liked' precisely one scene in my time on here. It's not something I reflexively do because, in all honesty, I'm over 30 (and then some) and I didn't grow up on social media apps.

                                    Also, fans of a thing make more noise about that thing. PT fans will make lots of noise about how great PT is and how there should be more of it and more 'realism'. PT non-fans don't necessarily spend lots of energy saying that they don't like it, because they don't want to harsh some else's mellow. But I think if you ever got to the point of saying 'all content will be PT by default' (not that I think you will, but for the sake of argument) then plenty of people would come out of the woodwork to say that they don't want that. I'm quite sure of that.

                                    This is potentially the most polarising debate in VR porn. It hasn't gone that far yet because so far, no-one with the power to make it happen has suggested either getting rid of non-PT or getting rid of PT. We should be able to co-exist. But if the assumption is that we're just waiting for better headset tech and then PT/AR will eventually be the standard, I'm pretty sure some people will have a big problem with that.

                                      LordCrash and sadly 0% of them are a Raw Taboo scene. We just need to have more Raw Taboo scenes but not random models, those scenes has to be with models who can play the role. You can cast people from ManyVids for example. They are great roleplayers and can nail the dirty talk. Otherwise most "taboo" scenes are vanilla and not taboo at all.