What’s the next top priority effort we should hop on?

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High resolution full body scanning, with LIDAR...

In a few years the compute power will be such that A.I. can create full scenes from high quality body scans and voice samples. You may want to invest now in licensing the body rights of your most used models. Basically you'll want to create images like this https://www.3d.sk/ but with associated 3D data, so that you don't have to employ modellers and coders a few years down the line, and have a stock of materials to draw from when this kind of content becomes feasible and popular.

MickyCheese

@doublevr
Here's an idea: AI powered customizations.
Everybody has different tastes, so giving them tools to change the performer's appearance to their liking will be a huge value add (e.g. changing hair color, make up, reverting or adding cosmetic surgery, changing breast size, etc.).

The tech behind this is very mature so high quality results can be achieved via hair segmentation and recoloring, face swapping, AR filters, 3DMMs, etc.

hhigh88

MickyCheese I wouldn't be surprised that in a couple of years from now you just let a green and yellow male / female shaped object fuck each other and you can choose yourself which actors you want in the scene. AR & AI will do the rest.

petermc

Niteflyte I don’t think that’s true as the people who want completely immersive POV scenes won’t like being pulled out of the scene by voyeur non-POV sections. You’ll likely lose a lot more views than you gain on that individual video.

I’ve no issue with them shooting some voyeur scenes or some mixed scenes for those that like them but having scenes regularly be a mix of the two probably wouldn’t be very successful.

Niteflyte

petermc I'm not saying the scene should be mixed. The POV scene would be the same as always, while the non-POV would be a separate video clip.

MickyCheese

hhigh88 This might be possible today with motion capture tech and high resolution body scans of actors. We can feed the motion capture data to Control Net and feed the body scans to Stable Diffusion to create an output.

It won't be perfect, but it's possible to fine tune it using LoRa and get hyper-realistic results.
It'll keep getting better in a few months as more research is published.
Here's some examples (with control net and LoRa fine tuning, but without motion capture and body scans):

Note, the model on the left and right are different.

hhigh88

MickyCheese eventhough these girls look amazing if you look at the action pic below you can see it is still very fake unfortunately 😔

Vrsumo2017

doublevr There’s a general arrangement after we accomplish VR

Well before yall move on can yall tweak the hand tracking.

Ima leave this comment I have in the pt discussion.

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Hand tracking in deo if yall never used it.

Few samples

Im hoping they'll upgrade the hands, maybe have option for skin tone color, personally I'd try to make the hands look kinda realistic, as realistically as they can get.

Also recommending pinch and pull to right and left for forward and rewind, and pinch and pull up or down for tilting. With the new quest 3 coming and Vision Pro I think this should be something to consider. 💡🤔👍

Edit: in pass-through I'd really want my own hands in front of the body parts 👍, that might be possible with Vision Pro. Maybe now? 🤷‍♂️

And I already reported there's a glitch, see the pointer stuck on the hand? It's only suppose to be there when using the deo player.

Idk how much usage the hand tracking gets in deo but I assume with quest 3 and vision users might wanna use it more. 😅

I'm using it off and on now just to get sum of them hand on body parts visuals 😏

Plus the vision Pro reveal made me try out the hand tracking more. 🤷‍♂️

Bucket619

lol those hands its Haunter getting in his freaky grabs in Lavender town

Vrsumo2017

Bucket619 SMH I feel like I have Michael Jackson gloves on 🙄😄

That's why I say they need color options of different skin tone colors.

Bucket619

Vrsumo2017 that is hilarious 🤣

Bucket619

Vrsumo2017 randomly thought about “if the glove don’t fit, you must acquit” 🥲😂

MickyCheese

hhigh88 yes, but it will get better in a few months (as generative AI is researched further).

rlrqwbzmudgxnyltqc

Not sure what's the top priority but it would probably has something to do with AI.

sportclimber

Niteflyte yes, please! I never realized that the shift to 3d/vr videos was going to mean nearly all POV. Greatly prefer seeing a girl have sex like we used to, only now like I'm in the room

Niteflyte

sportclimber Exactly. I think the people who fight for their own preference to be the only option are pretty short-sighted. It hurts the overall market. Even in POV there are different preferences that some like and some don't. For example in cowgirl position, some viewers like a girl with large headlights to be right on the cam, to simulate having the tits in their face; While on the other hand, some viewers like the girl to not be right on the cam, so you can better see her and her tits.

I've noticed that when suggestions like these are made, there are a good number of those who like POV come around and get very tribal and view it as an attack. It's very short-sighted (and dumb). The suggestion isn't to have non-POV over POV. The suggestion is to add a camera angle (or more), and have another version of the scene available for enjoyment of other viewers. Speaking for myself, there are many scenes with a hot girl and action, but I end-up not enjoying because I don't like the camera angles. This is an opportunity to take one scene and broaden its appeal.

SchnuppiLilac

Niteflyte In the old days, Reality Lovers released a couple of videos in POV and voyeur versions. If my memory serves me right, these videos were shot separately. I can only guess but probably the voyeur versions were less popular and so they stopped doing them after a while.

petermc

Niteflyte oh, perhaps I misunderstood, my apologies. I have no issue with them doing a separate non-pov version for those who want that. They’d have to film it twice though wouldn’t they as I assume you wouldn’t want to see the VR rig when watching the voyeur version. Would they then have to pay the talent twice? Would the guy need to cum twice? Could be tricky logistically to do two versions of the same scene.

The other option maybe is to do scenes with multiple male performers so you get some POV fucking when you’re fucking the girl but then also get to watch the other male performer(s) take a turn too.

RealcumberScripts

SchnuppiLilac Niteflyte In the old days, Reality Lovers released a couple of videos in POV and voyeur versions. If my memory serves me right, these videos were shot separately. I can only guess but probably the voyeur versions were less popular and so they stopped doing them after a while.

I personally was a big fan of those (and still am big fan of voyeur/BTS style scenes)

I think it could have just been done a bit better and would look much more amazing with current and next gen cameras nowadays

You simply cant get those amazing voyeur body views and angles in POV that you can see in voyeur/non-POV (or even proper closeups alone)

Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

Niteflyte

SchnuppiLilac Thanks for the intel! Yes, I've seen a couple other studios do this (Pervrt comes to mind). I'm sure the non-POV will be less popular than POV, but it still adds content and variety, and I think that is what viewers are looking for. If you've ever seen some of the studios exploring non-POV content, the comments are passionate that some enjoy the experimentation and variety. I also think that the market for non-POV would grow as more people get a chance to view that kind of content. Speaking for myself, if there was a studio that had a lot of content and was mostly non-POV, I'd pay for a separate membership (even tho I'd prefer they just join SLR).

framzess

I just had a great idea with all the new IA app out there.
If we could customize some of the word a girl will say in a scene, example: the girl say 28 time a generic male name in a scene.
You just enter your name and she will say your name instead, there is already some app to copy voice with sample and to move lips on a video to match the word.

RealcumberScripts

framzess I just had a great idea with all the new IA app out there.
If we could customize some of the word a girl will say in a scene, example: the girl say 28 time a generic male name in a scene.
You just enter your name and she will say your name instead, there is already some app to copy voice with sample and to move lips on a video to match the word.

This is actually a pretty great idea if this is possible - being able to have your own name inserted in a video so that the actress keeps saying your name directly would be pretty surreal

I think thats the big draw and reason why camgirl sites are so popular as they they can call out your name which really engages you alot more and makes you feel much more than just a passive bystander

Niteflyte

petermc No worries my friend, and those are some good thoughts/suggestions. I'm sure there is more than one way to tackle this. For example, if they are filming the POV, I'd be happy if there was a camera 5 feet to the side, out of view of the POV camera, but showing the 'voyeur' view. As for the cumshot scene, I love these in non-POV, and would hope this could be done the same way - with the non-POV camera to the side out of view, but I'd still be happy if they did the money shot in POV only.

I'm also sure there are other challenges we're not even aware of, as non-producers, but you make a good suggestion in that if you already have a girl booked and a scene setup - why not do extra filming for more content? I'm sure that would involve money/profit considerations, weighing the extra cost versus the extra profit from non-POV viewing. And I also enjoy POV and I certainly don't want to ruin that for those who really prefer POV, but speaking for myself I prefer non-POV so much, and damn I wish there were more of that kind of content, especially with the higher quality producers and girls.

cheers

Niteflyte

RealcumberScripts

You simply cant get those amazing voyeur body views and angles in POV that you can see in voyeur/non-POV (or even proper closeups alone)

Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

THIS!!!!!!!

mebejoe

RealcumberScripts Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

Yes, that would be awesome!

damian

RealcumberScripts You simply cant get those amazing voyeur body views and angles in POV that you can see in voyeur/non-POV (or even proper closeups alone)

Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

Great idea! Could be done right now by planting more camera's but mask them nicely within the decoration.

Or hopefully we see some advancements in Nvidia NeRF technology which is quite exciting as well:
https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/getting-started-with-nvidia-instant-nerfs/

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