8K JAV has begun

doublevr

Oh wow. Putting it up for download. Will let you know tomorrow

Bakugo

FANZA exclusive ;(

ZENRA

Natch Visa/MC may have been the cause of R18's issues, but were not the reason they were closed.

Per 8K JAV VR, from what I have heard from studios, the biggest issue is the cost to apply mosaic. If the resolution is higher, it costs a lot more. With DMM taking such a huge cut, it may not make financial sense for them to shell out magnitudes more to add mosaic if 4K sells well enough. The 8K that is on DMM now are by DMM studios which have deep pockets and probably make a lot more per sale than non-DMM studios. We hope with the AI Mosaic solution that smaller studios will feel more comfortable shooting in higher resolutions if mosaic costs become a non-issue.

Natch

KMP VR (a non-DMM studio) has announced that they'll publish 8K movies "soon". They sell VRs at A Festa without DRM... 🙂

Lenovo

ableman please tell us how is the image quality compared with the slr 8k and the file size

AlterEgo

Four new 8k titles have been added to DMM, including two from S1 (another major studio), for those interested.

Natch

The problem is that they are impossible to view in 8K unless you buy them from DMM with a credit card through a VPN, with the risk of your bank catching you and cancelling your card, or even receiving a penalty... 🙁

mebejoe

Natch So there is no way to buy their titles in 8K outside Japan, unless you use a VPN, something I don't plan to do because I don't want to mess with my bank.

Bummer.

metichemsi

They, as well as a lot of people using the canon camera are probably shooting in f2.8 to maximize the amount of light they get without introducing more noise or resorting to filming in 30fps in mp4 format. Using f2.8 does have more of a shallow DOF on this camera and its easier to have your subject out of focus. I personally shoot in f4 or f5.6 which seems to be the sweet spot for optimal DOF and sharpness all-around. If you are familiar with shooting with these cameras then you understand that you will need a lot more light, specially when you want to keep your ISO at base, which in RAW is 800 and that already has plenty of noise, there are "tricks" to get around the noise issue and minimize it as much as possible while still shooting in RAW (which has a ton of noise) at the expense of dynamic range. Which in all honesty, for porn, who really cares about dynamic range???? You have controlled lighting 95%+ of the time anyways. It can be tricky to get the best image out of it while still keeping all these factors into consideration in order to avoid having to do some major denoising on the 8k footage, those of you who have tried know damn well attempting to denoise the 8k footage is not practical at all. So far I have come up with a workflow that does compromise dynamic range but gives me an image that is 90%+ acceptable to me without having to denoise, the better your lighting is, the better it looks straight out of the camera with very minor tweaking. These studios need more time to play with this system and iron out all the major kinks they are dealing with now.

AlterEgo

@doublevr
@ZENRA

Any possibility of bringing some (or all) of these titles to SLR, or are these particular studios difficult to cooperate with?

ZENRA

AlterEgo They are DMM owned so they rather bury their head in sand rather than figuring out some way to cater to a willing and able foreign audience. Fortunately, the actual production crew that shot those movies is freelance so movies of the same quality should find their way to SLR eventually.

AlterEgo

Thanks for the reply. That is both encouraging and discouraging at the same time unfortunately. It's a real shame there doesn't seem to be that much interest in a legitimate foreign consumer base on their part.

A bit off topic, but what is the status of the industry now after the new laws passed last year? I'm a bit out of the loop on that. Have they relaxed or changed at all, or is it looking like it's going to be the way the industry is shaped for the foreseeable future? Thanks in advance for your insight.

ZENRA

AlterEgo There was a slight dip some months after the Law was passed, but now things are back on track.

fenderwq

So time for a review! I tried out 8K JAV and I must say it's a huge improvement! So much better than 4k it's not even close.

Scale
The scale was very good. I didn't notice any weird distortions in the image either (like you can see around the edges in a lot of movies shot on the canon camera for instance). I would say it was actually perfect for me considering some JAV seems too small to me. Very good.

Colors, contrast, etc.
Also no complaints here, looked good to me. Good color and contrast while maintaining a natural look.

Details
The video I watched was encoded in h265 at 8192x4096@60fps (currently the maximum decodable resolution). So very nice.

Any complaints?
I think the only thing to hold it back is the low bitrate (only 32mbs) and you can notice it's not enough when you watch the scenes. Still compared to the 4K we had before it's a huge improvement.

Exciting times if you enjoy JAV!

bacula8630

Agreed. I took a look also. Big improvement over what we’ve been getting to this point.

Not sure how they’re handling the Canon footage. But scale looked good. Detail was very nice. And I didn’t notice any geometric distortion.

Overall, I’m quite impressed!

metichemsi

ableman I shoot my own personal videos with my wife, wide open looks great within 2-3ft from the lens when properly focused but everything moving past that starts to look blurry, you get a much wider range shooting F4 or F5.6 if you can get away with it and if you still have enough light. I personally have been shooting in F4. All of the shooting I do is indoors with controlled lighting, I have a couple of 60W lights bolted on the wall behind our bed about 8 ft above our heads and then I add a couple of lights on the left and right side of the camera, little aperture lights and I get a very clean image.

AlterEgo

metichemsi I shoot my own personal videos with my wife

Found some footage from one of them:

metichemsi

AlterEgo hahahahaha I sometimes sure feel that old. I have been shooting my own personal stuff as a hobby since the days of the old gopro mods with entaniya lens mods, everything from the Evo, K1, K2 pro and now the canon system and that's just the VR stuff, I've been shooting non VR and SBS 3D crap since way before then. I have just found that porn has always been ahead of the mainstream tech adoption which is why I am always on here to see what the latest and greatest is.

Natch

+Good news: You can buy the 8K videos at DMM / Fanza with Paypal and no VPN. At least from Europe. DeepL Translator is your friend.
+Bad news: They have DRM, and their player is garbage.

I bought some titles just to support the 8K version (17 euros each title), and it is impossible to watch them with a minimum of quality with their player. I have tested with the Windows version and the 8K videos look 4K and the 4K ones, like 2K. And they are totally out of scale, plus there are hardly any customization options. A disaster.

No wonder VR doesn't advance in Japan, if the stores have DRM and have to use players like that. I'd give up on VR forever rather than to watch movies like that.

Like I said, I've bought several 8K titles at DMM / Fanza just to support them, but I downloaded them from elsewhere without DRM to watch with HereSphere. Which just show the uselessness of DRM, which only serves to screw anyone who wants to pay.

And guys, this is like night and day. Much more definition, girls look like in real life. The sensation of "presence" and eroticism increases a lot, because at 8K and with supersampling it's like having the girls in front of you. It's amazing.

And no giant girls as in western 8K productions, the scale is perfect. These people really know.

The only negative point is that the bitrate is low, and some backgrounds look a little blurred. I hope they improve this.

Very happy with these JAV VR releases at 8K, the improvement is huge and the increase in presence impresses. I hope it becomes the new standard and all Japanese studios move to 8K.

Lars69

Natch Thank you tons for keeping us updated, Natch!

All this info about the new 8K JAV VR is very much appreciated & wished for all the Jav lovers here 🙂
Finally........... Little by little we're starting being able to enjoy of some great 8K VR videos from Japanese studios!!!

Kudos to you! 😉

Bakugo

I also purchased video.
It is much better than HQ FANZA video.
I really liked oil on tits and can see clearly visible tits veins and pupil.
So far it is good, not big surprised maybe cause I used to watch western 6K/8K video.
But if I compared with other HQ videos, much better.
And big point is there was no 8K JAVVR before and finally I can watch now.
App player is not good, almost nothing changed from 2years ago.

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