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  • Any thoughts why these scenes didn't go well?

Agree. Kind of want to know what the metric is, but I can tell you why I did or did not watch certain scenes.
For many of the SLRO scenes, I only watch it once there is a script for it. I dont know how many people are in the same boat as me or whether I am the only one that strictly waits for the scripts.

  1. For the dirty laundry 3 - I was waiting for the script. Im actually excited for this but none of the Queenie scene got scripted yet.

  2. After hours at the alley - Waiting for the script as well. wanted to watch this as well.

  3. The harem - TBH, the color / lighting either during filming or post production processing is kind of off. Everything was too orange and just visually was not appealing. The preview picture vs what was actually shown is night and day apart. Its a shame cuz I was really looking forward to it especially scarlett and amber, but was kind of let down.

  4. Goth GF - Sorry, Just isnt my cup of tea. Would be interesting with a different cast. I liked the kitty cam cast one, but unfortunately it was filmed with the not so good camera back then. not sure if that slro is within the same genre.

  5. Cooking - I was actually waiting for the script. I really enjoyed her MILFVR scene.

Hope that was slightly helpful.

    Just looking at these from first glance and I can tell you why most would be instant skips for me.

    Dirty Laundry 3 - Two very similar looking women that I've never heard of before. The Dirty Laundry concept is thin enough but was carried in the past by Hazel Moore (who I'll watch in anything) or Melody Marks (who has mastered performing for VR).

    After Hours At the Alley - Nothing really jumps out at me. TBH I think you just need to sort of take the hit when black performers are involved, because there is just going to be a segment of the consumer base that are going to be close-minded at best or outright hostile at worst.

    Innocent Harem Tease and Please - Probably a combination of things.

    1) It's a two parter and people probably just figured the second part was going to have most of the action.
    2) In my opinion, the harem thing is a novelty and has diminishing returns. Some things just work better in fantasy than execution. For me, it's just a wall of noise and a bunch of girls that are either bored or looking for something to do while they wait their turn.

    WTB: Goth GF - I know the priority for casting is brand new girls or at least ones with very few VR scenes, so they're not always going to hit. Another girl that no one knows and the setup isn't anything beyond the typical GFE, I can understand people being apathetic.

    Cooking is not a forte for a Sex Goddess - The tide is very slowly changing and we're seeing more anti-silicone and anti-tattoo sentiment than ever before. I don't care about tattoos but I'll happily never see giant fake balloon tits ever again.

    Think of it like someone browsing Netflix. If the movie doesn't have a star you know of, it needs to either have the coolest looking box art you've ever seen or be in a genre/niche that you really like.

    I dont remember where I saw this, but the preview image really matters a lot to me. If it looks good (can be subjective) + script, I'll most likely watch it. But some of those preview images are really not representative of the actual scene + it looks to be a screenshot most of the time. Hope at least some effort gets put in to liven up these preview images. I look forward to them in general.

      doublevr I'd say the girls mostly aren't really mainstream around here in these ones (except the harem one).

      But that shouldn't be a bad thing. Only catering to the mainstream is boring and there should be stuff that isn't for everyone but for a few people who are into it on a big network like SLR. And sometimes I watch a few scenes later on that slipped through when they came out (because they didn't immediately spark my interest) and they're often pretty good as well. You can only watch limited about of porn though so everyone is a bit selective. 😉

      The harem scene has almost 3k likes though. Isn't that "okish"?

      justanotherone I dont remember where I saw this, but the preview image really matters a lot to me.

      That's true and I agree with that. There are girls who I know and I will probably watch all their scenes sooner or later. Girls that aren't on my radar have to stand out and the "only" way of doing so is by their scene cover in the catalogue. So I don't agree at all with people saying that covers don't matter. It's actually basic marketing...

      I am unsure of the metrics used of course (I assume you must have internal data analytics that you can't share with us), but I think comparing this harem to the Dream Team harem, there are a few reasons I can think of...

      • The scene should have been one video, not two. Splitting into two parts splits the likes, splits the comment section, adds negativity in the comments with missing positions (as clearly seen in the comments on the video page), creates a disjointed VR experience, and overall just devalues the scene as a whole. I'd urge you not to split the next harems.
      • The majority of the cast fit the vibe of the setting and costumes, but the cast was not at the same level as Dream Team, in terms of VR popularity. Dream Team had the likes of Blake Blossom, Laney Grey, Charly Summer, Aubree Valentine, etc. There weren't many heavy hitters in the Innocent Harem scene. Definitely some standouts like Mina Lux and Lana Smalls, but both of them are still pretty unknown in comparison. So I think for future harems, the cast needs to be stronger, with more popular VR household names (Kiara Cole, Kylie Rocket, Lily Larimar, Anna Claire Clouds, etc)
      • The harem scene was released a week after the Yoga harem. I love having more and more harem scenes, but prior to both this one, and the Yoga harem, there was no harem scene in almost a year's time. It would be better to release a harem more regularly like once a month, as opposed to two in back-to-back weeks.
      • The seated cowgirl camera position could be improved. It was a bit awkwardly set for this scene (too close). And since there was no laying down section, cowgirl fans are left a bit unsatisfied.

      For the record though, I thought this harem scene was really well done (aside from the seated section). The direction from Nash with all the swarming and body worship, asmr, nipple play, kissing (omg the kissing section was incredible), pheromone play, etc... it was masterful. Maybe the numbers don't show it, but it is a very well done harem.

      I personally enjoyed this scene as well. I would say the big-ass models like Holly Day may not be quite as popular in the overall VR community as compared to the previous Dirty Laundry casts (Hazel Moore, Melody Marks, Freya Parker, etc you get the type), but I think Holly is fucking hot as hell! I certainly think we need more of them, but maybe in a different scenario. Dirty Laundry tends to be a bit more of a GFE type experience, at least based on previous iterations. But other than that, I thought the scene was killer, and I've pulled up the scene several times since. It is not a lost and forgotten scene in my eyes.

      doublevr just a number of likes. Good scenes get around 2K over the first months

      I think this doesn't always tell the story. The recent Emma Bugg scene, has 4k likes in 2 weeks, which of course is incredible... but from a personal level, I found the scene to be very lackluster, and filmed pretty poorly. I feel like the main reason why that scene skyrocketed in likes is purely because Emma Bugg is a very sought out new-talent right now. Because from a production/execution standpoint, that scene doesn't have a lot going for it at all.

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        Simple.

        CASTING. CASTING. CASTING.

        ... For all but Innocent Harem Tease and Please, which is a good scene but just too long

        Did anyone recommend the women of the other films from the casting thread? I understand that many women in porn have full-body tats and extensive surgeries. These women are for a very niche audience. Your casting agent needs to poach models from FTVGirls, Nubiles, ALSScan, or from the hardcore studios BackroomCastingCouch, ExploitedCollegeGirls, ExploitedTeens. And listen to the suggestions from the casting thread.

        In general, do more full-body exploration before the sex (as they do in JAV) and have at least five minutes of striptease and foreplay before the sex starts. Add BTS segments, not because they are in and of themselves popular but because they help establish a mood for a better overall performance with the model.

        @doublevr

        stefanno we are rotating 8 thumbnails for each video for small sample groups then showing the best performing one for everyone.

        The clickthrough rate between best and worst is huge. Also looking into low bounce rate to keep everyone happy

          doublevr https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/my-dirty-laundry-3-32509
          This was an ok scene, not a huge fan of the models though.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/after-hours-at-the-alley-32471
          I really didn't like this setting, just super awkward in a bowling alley, even though I really did like the actress.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/innocent-harem-tease-and-please-32414
          Too much going on and not enough going on. Great concept but most of the girls are just doing nothing while they wait. If you've got 10 girls in front of you and they aren't doing anything, there really isn't any reason to have 10 girls in front of you. It would be great if they were all interacting with each other in different ways that would be fun to watch but how can you realistically have them do that for 5 hours of filming.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/wtb-goth-gf-32451
          I liked this one but I'd say if you want a great goth themed scene get a very thin, very pale, girl for an actress. This actress didn't really convey that goth theme well.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cooking-is-not-a-forte-for-a-sex-goddess-32191?tab=about
          Really didn't like this model, not my type.

          doublevr we are rotating 8 thumbnails for each video for small sample groups then showing the best performing one for everyone.

          In that case your "focus group" really, really sucks at this job and you should get yourself a new one immediately.

          SLRO consistenly has the worst scene covers in the whole VR porn industry (at least compared to the major studios).

          Period.

          Can't say much on the others, other than the casting wasn't my type, but on the harem scene (also applies to others) I did enjoy but sometimes the story is part of the immersion and I just rarely have a full hour + let alone 2 hours through both clips to commit so I usually steer towards the 30 minute 45 minute max scenes, otherwise I just end up skipping through out of impatience lol

          First off, I'm waiting on the scripts for all of these.
          For me it all comes down to the scenario of the story you are trying to sell.

          My dirty Laundry, I did watch it. I like the girls a lot. The set up is a lot shorter than the other one. (I couldn't even watch the 8K one). It's too quick to banging me with an unreal reason. Still good but if it had a better beginning than it would be a gem.

          After Hours at the Alley, (Tried to watch it). Again the set up was weird. I know you guys liked that you had a bowling alley to shoot in. But I don't think you would have sex on a ball return IRL. You could have played around with the story so much more in the bowling alley. It was basically "hey we are alone so lets have sex right here where we are standing".
          She could have shot the ball ten times and slowly taken off clothes after each throw or something.

          Innocent Harem: Tease and Please, I love the look of it but who I'm I? Why am I here? How did I get 10 girls all wanting to have sex with me? Have one of the girl explain that I am a sheik and these are my harem of women. The girls kept saying "you got to try this" so that fantasy went out the window.
          Unlike some others, I did like the cast.

          WTB: Goth GF, I started it but I don't think she said more than 5 words. She is cute but there was zero story so i'm out.

          Cooking is not a forte for a Sex Goddess, I skimmed it (still waiting on a script but it would not be on the top of my wish list). Better looking set up. I do like that it is an older woman other than the usual 20-year-old but I don't like big fake tits.

          I didn't download any of them. My reasons:

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/my-dirty-laundry-3-32509
          No face-to-face cowgirl, one girl not my type. But mostly no seated cowgirl, I like curvy girls.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/after-hours-at-the-alley-32471
          ¿Fake tits? / Nipple piercings. A tragedy because I love black girls and there are so few in VR.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/innocent-harem-tease-and-please-32414
          I don't like harems. They end up being a succession of robotic sex without any interest.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/wtb-goth-gf-32451
          Too much clothes, ugly tattoos, piercings, camera too far away the second part of the video, bad filmed.

          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cooking-is-not-a-forte-for-a-sex-goddess-32191?tab=about I think the cast was no good 🤷‍♂️
          Fake tits and ugly tattoos.

            doublevr I personally really like Skyla and Kitana and was happy you booked them. I thought the Harem was solid as well. I’m not interested in the models for the first one.