Any thoughts why these scenes didn't go well?

doublevr https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/my-dirty-laundry-3-32509

Not my type of girls.

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/after-hours-at-the-alley-32471

Again, not my type of girl.

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/innocent-harem-tease-and-please-32414 - we don’t really want harems like this

Anything more than 5 girls is too much + 2 parts...

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/wtb-goth-gf-32451

One too many piercings for my taste..

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cooking-is-not-a-forte-for-a-sex-goddess-32191?tab=about I think the cast was no good

Too much plastic.

As for the scenes linked, none of them happen to be of the types of girls I'm personally attracted to or interested in, this doesn't mean they are bad though. I also dislike multi-girl scenes so any Harem scene is an instant skip, they're always too damn noisy and distracting for me to enjoy. Two girls at most, and only if they're not competing for who moans the loudest.

stefanno What is the metric of a scene not doing well?

• doublevr just a number of likes. Good scenes get around 2K over the first months

That's a worrying statement... Likes do not always mean a scene is good or bad. A lot of people use the like-system as a way to mark a scene as watched or downloaded, simply because it's the only way to add a visual marker on the thumbnail when you're just browsing the site. If I remember it was once said we might get something that shows if we had already seen and/or downloaded a scene but we still only have a -like button. So people use that as a seen-checkmark regardless of whether a scene is bad or not.

I'm using a script that adds a visual checkmark on scene thumbnails when I download it, but even having that feature I still scenes with my favorite pornstars like Kitana Montana simply because I know studios (and you) look at them like popularity-statistics and think "hmm this model is not so popular, lets not invite her back" when it could just as well mean the studio messed up and badly shot the scene.

Just to show it's not just me saying this, here's one example: This Deepinsex scene is normal POV until the last 5 minutes where you're surprised with a non-POV ending of stuntcock's ass cheeks. If you read the comments, because it got 1.4k likes in a week the Deepinsex-guy thinks people liked that position despite the negative comments about it. Also note people commenting how likes does not mean they agree with the entire scene and how they use likes to mark videos as seen/downloaded.

It's a serious problem... Studios see fewer negative comments than likes on a video and it's easy to think "well people like it so the comments are just whining" or at least assume the majority of viewers have no complaints. This is exactly what happened with perVRt absolutely refusing to accept any technical criticism, often stating there are many likes on his videos so he must be doing something right and commenters must be wrong.

With the way how likes are implemented currently and how they're used by people, studios/you cannot look at them as any meaningful statistic, at best it's a very rough indication of popularity of a scene in some unclear combination of popularity of the pornstar(s). But because people add likes as a seen-checkmark a good part of the like-numbers has nothing to do with popularity. Perhaps if we could visually mark scenes as watched/downloaded then the likes-system might actually be used for liking a scene (ideally we'd have a separate quality grading of the scene, and the pornstar performance).

doublevr She never performed well with other producers https://www.sexlikereal.com/pornstars/kitana-montana

That's just a bad conclusion and a clear example of why lack of likes do not necessarily mean a model is not performing well... Because context matters here, look at her scenes while sorted by newest, and I'm ignoring the compilations. She's only done two recent scenes with good studios (SLRstudios and RealJamVR).

The two Swallowbay scenes aren't doing bad compared to their other scenes, especially the most recent one (from 7 months ago) is doing above average with more likes than even much older scenes. It's even higher than the ~650 likes on this 11 months old scene with Kay Lovely, a very popular blonde model with 3K (followers) on her pornstar page... (over 3 times as much as Kitana)

Isn't that a bit weird..? Surely Kay's swallowbay scene should have way more likes..?

So why is that happening? I think it's because Swallowbay originally focused on blowjob/lollipop content only and that's not for everyone, I'm sure a lot of people just skip them or even have them hidden now. Also their scenes were popular when they started years ago because it looked different I guess, but they haven't changed their horribly lighted room since then.

The lights are literally everywhere which makes everything look worse (especially makeup-caked models). Bright lights are annoying to look at in VR and the stuntcock is also wearing bright neon colored shirts (often the model wears neon stuff as well). It's just eye-straining and annoying in VR to look at.
The point is the Swallowbay scenes aren't doing bad because of Kitana, it's more because the studio keeps shooting below average scenes and not improving since they started. They're just not one of the top tier studios imo.

Her other scenes are VRsolos/VRedging scenes of 2-3 years old, at a time where that studio was still figuring things out (as one comment here shows: "Hopefully she does some real scenes for some studios that are actually good eventually").

Most of those older scenes are short solos which are not as popular by default but they also shot scenes that are fairly niche like face-sitting, shaving, yoga poses, and one with a metal clamp that I'd give a "don't-put-your-dick-in-that"-rating of 8/10. I actually wish more studios would use interesting sex-toys/devices so I applaud them for trying different things but those solo scenes might not be interesting for most people.
I will say Kitana looked different back then too, she had an upper-lip piercing that was a bit off-putting on top of her inked bimbofication-look that not everybody is a fan of. But the studio adding even more niche fetishes in her scenes logically leads to more people not being interested in a scene, which is not the model's fault.

So the point remains that any perceived low amount of likes does not really mean it's the fault of the model, then maybe we really shouldn't look at likes on scenes to determine if a model performed well or not...

Sorry this got a bit long lol... didn't plan on writing a book today.

Aerowen we seem to have different tastes so I pretty much disagree with your tastes-based conclusions. And I won’t bother adding mine because everyone’s tastes are subjective so unless it’s a well-engaged poll it’s rather meaningless for the team to draw conclusions here based on what people say they personally get off on or don’t. The loudest, most persistent people always win.

I agree with your analysis on using likes (or lack thereof) as a reliable metric though. Point by point by point by point I think you’re dead on. I hope the team really thinks about what you’re saying here and devises more accurate ways of measuring scene and casting quality.

@doublevr: This being by and large a streaming site, I’d imagine there’s a wealth of viewing data to draw upon that would be statistically sound. Getting a read on what scenes get initial views, repeat views, scenes that are started but then moved on from, what scenes are watched most of the way through, what sections across scenes get the most view-time, what bits get A-B looped, I mean the data collection opportunities here seem endless. Collecting well organized data and running it through AI for analysis would provide a far more valuable source of what’s working and what’s not, than the one-dimensional like switch and relying on the loudest people in a public forum to tell you.

The likes thing was always weird to me, yeah. You'd figure view counts would be the more obvious metric. It also fails to account for longer term popularity. One of my favorite SLR Originals is the Evie Rees scene, an "unpopular" scene that I didn't see until I signed up for a sub months later.

Tons of people consume content and never use like buttons. I watch Youtube religiously and enjoy a vast majority of what I watch but unless it's a channel that's so small that I think needs it or a topic that may be getting a lot of hate, I generally don't use the like button.

"Innocent harem tease and please"
was good, great cast, I wasn't too impressed with the camera position during cg rcg tho, I would of preferred more of laying flat cg rcg, the cam was like in a seated position and when the hotties got on for cg if they were close up it blocked the view of the hotties especially behind them. When ever they would switch my excitement was higher cause all them were in view.

Also would it be possible to tag each models turn, like maybe put cg1 cg2 and so on, or put there names in the tag.

Cus I was focused on Nadia Noja a lot, I was waiting for her cg part, skipping threw, and thought we'll if they had tags for each model I could find to her part quicker, she seems new but that came off hot tho, she rarely did any eye contact to the cam while she was in the bg, but she's a hottie, book her again soon.

Edit:
One thing I would done in this scene is during doggystyle, yall should had all the hotties turn around to show ass cheeks, would of been a circle of ass cheeks while I was in doggy, next time

And do sum ass claps next time too