DeoVR v HereSphere

Sandi_SLR For anyone comparing Heresphere and DeoVR alignment, we have Roll disabled (named Jaw )

yaw

doublevr don't have much to add since most have said the same but one feature not mention is a loop function A-B is nice but always the right tool for the job.

I just want to be able to vertically tilt again with thumbstick

Vrsumo2017 yeah that’s what I mean. But can I set it so the right stick is Left/Right for seeking and Up/Down for tilting? That used to be default for me, but I can’t figure out how to get it back to that?

Tcboo128 yeah, it's in the settings and go in player settings, I'd reset to default first, cus your left and right should automatically be for seeking by default...

So, hit reset to default first, then click on pitch in the list and push up on the joystick and then select the green arrow to confirm.

Hey this off topic, but about deo...
On deo.com on my phone there's videos there that not showing up on deovr app, it's quite a few too.

HS was intimidating at first so I avoided it for ages (and the cost is a disincentive).

However, now it's all I use except when browsing DEO to find content for downloading. The main feature for me is the ability to save scenes that were shot poorly (most studios suffer from this). It can even save some 8k scenes that have awful scaling issues. Now, when a scene is good but technically flawed, instead of instant deletion I can maybe get it watchable - mostly this is fixing scale with the combo of zoom and stereo adjustment. But also the image control is excellent, including keyframes for adjusting only parts of a scene. And being able to save a preset then apply to similarly graded scenes by the same studio is a game changer.

Just today I saved "Shower Me With Love" starring Chloe Amour from MilfVR. On DEO it's a disaster, terrible scaling and shit color grading. With HS and some tweaking, it's now almost perfect and becomes an instant classic.

If SLR's competitors were smart they would collaborate and invest in Heresphere, make it free and more intuitive, and promote it as the default option for playing / streaming. However I don't have much faith in the business acumen of some of these studios, they think short term and either don't have the funds or the balls to invest in the best customer experience.

spacepirate yaw

Lol I'm start using yaw instead of yeah

Yaw, I think so

Twisted In deo vr some scenes you can see the bending on windows and furniture.

I only noticed that when zooming out to much.

Hs cool, when ever I use it I just use the basic settings, I like the motion option how I can move my head for zooming in, but the other settings like x y in the advanced settings idk what to do with that, am I suppose to mess with that stuff, idk but I just stook to the basic settings option. I haven't used hs in while.

Doe's 6dof thing needs that zooming "motion", idk why it taking them so long to adjust it, is it really that complicated? Idk

One of the main reasons I mostly use HereSphere is the experience is far better streaming downloaded videos off my PC through XBVR. Navigating the menus can be really slow on SLR (guess my 100Mbps is too slow) and occasionally video playback can struggle too, don't have that issue with XBVR. I found XBVR worked far better in HereSphere, and I think it doesn't work at all now in DeoVR? (haven't tried in a long time)

doublevr
Why I use heresphere and xbvr for local VR videos / scripts 99% of the time (I pretty much only use deovr to stream new releases).

The biggest reason, videos and scripts always work, every time, every heresphere update.

Once you figure out how to use heresphere and xbvr, the days of having problems playing local videos/scripts are gone. Initial setup of xbvr can take a while if you have a lot of videos/scripts (they all need to be assigned/matched), but once you are done the initial stuff, adding the occasional new release/script takes seconds.

I only started using heresphere because deovr kept giving me problems, it still does far too often.

• Deovr features come and go, I setup deovr to work with dlna, then it was removed - I don't care that it was added back as I moved on
• Three spinning wheels way too often considering I have state of the art gigabit internet with 0 issues with any other connected device
• It was nice that deovr finally offered the handy controls inside the interface, but heresphere also now has that
• I hate that deovr auto resumes a script, i.e. pause video, remove headset, adjust something, move headset a little (not even back on sometimes) and script resumes running, heresphere continues pausing when you have paused, and as one would expect plays only when you push play
• Deovr is better at time syncing scripts than heresphere (my guess is you guys calculate the required offset), I seldom need to adjust offset in deovr, in heresphere I almost always need to visit the handy site to get a delay, then adjust heresphere
• Deovr was easy to use and figure out the first time you use it, heresphere was quite complicated to figure out many of the most basic setup and user tasks, but heresphere support does answer questions and eventually you figure it out.
• Deovr takes a long time to load.
• Heresphere seems to have more "often used" controls available on main page.
• In deovr, scripts sometimes keep running when they shouldn't (I have exited the video), scripts sometimes stop (says connection error) and get resent, heresphere has never encountered any of these problems, so I am pretty sure the issue is inside deovr.

Maybe not as important for the average user, but for a scripter heresphere is much better at moving around the timeline than deovr (i.e. I can move to within a second of any point in the video to check some detail in VR headset vs my scripting tool), deovr is very poor at moving the timeline slider around, or at moving start/finish AB markers in tiny increments to get them exactly where you want them.

scrptr9 Well said

scrptr9
I agree, and once HS figures out streaming (and figures it out well) it's going to be a no brainer. Deovr has become a pornsite portal like many we have seen in the past (although a very good one if not the best). Whereas, HS is going to be the standard at some point if it doesn't get abandoned and they can figure out streaming well. Also, Deo seems to have a very hard time managing subtitles suitably for this type of content, which are becoming more and more popular in vr. HS does a very good job with that. If I want to scan titles I go with Deovr but if I want to watch one of my favorite videos I go with HS.
For the average user? Yeah I agree, Deo all day long.
The idea I think is that someday VR will be as popular as regular porn and that the interface needs to be seamless and free and easy to use for the purnhub types. People who want to buy a quest and watch porn. That's where the revenue is in this market. But for the more discerning.. HS is the way to go.
Edit: I don't use scripts so I can't comment on those.

Eh, I used to think that but I honestly don't see much difference between the two in terms of image quality now. They seem the same. Obviously if you download the videos to your comp or to Quest itself its going to be the best, you will always lose a bit of quality over internet connection, but not that much imo, at least not with my internet.

Heresphere is really good in so many ways, but it's missing some stuff that Deo has.

DEO - Passthrough with really advanced options for creating your own PT settings, much easier to use, much more user friendly and huge library to stream through if you pair it with SLR. downsides is it's still very slow, clunky, and some of the controls don't make sense (like having to grab both grip buttons to move the image), and the other settings are drastic. It's not easy to make super tiny incremental adjustments.

HS - Much faster, cleaner, more options to adjust settings, settings are super incremental. You can zoom out like a millimeter or even less, so way more control. But it's also confusing as hell to use, has way too many menus and options that most people don't need, don't use or don't do much. No Passthrough is a big problem as well. I pretty much only use DEO now because of that. He's working on PT for it, but unless it's superior to DEO's, not sure I'd switch back.

I still use both everyday depending on the videos.

Ok now I get the problem. U cant stream with HS. The streams count as download. So u forced to use the ... DEO App. I thonk when I want to stream in good quality then I hv to leave SLR. Its anoying.