DeoVR v HereSphere

Denarius

The biggest thing for me by far is that in HereSphere you can browse to another video while the current video keeps playing. I know you can use the info tab in DeoVR too, but not for browsing local files.

A big plus of DeoVR is being able to control the Tcode3 sliders from within the app itself instead of having to adjust it with an external program.

doublevr

Denarius i have been thinking about it some years ago. Never thought it can be useful though

Denarius

doublevr It depends on your mental state mostly I guess. I always get seriously disassociated when there is nothing going on for some reason.

Another point that Heresphere does well imo is recentering/moving by holding the trigger on the quest controller. I always use my Quest in the dark so sometimes it has trouble staying centered. Even when you use the recentering button in DeoVR it can still be off quite a bit. Using the trigger on the right controller to fix that is really helpful, especially when it's really smooth like in Heresphere.

vrpicasso

Denarius That's something you can do in DEO, you just have to set it up in the menu. And now with DEO you can move the whole "dome" in every axis, which works better than Heresphere as far as I can tell. This is literally the one area, apart from ease of use, where DEO does it right. Sadly, without keyframes when you watch a scene in DEO you have to constantly change the camera view so you're conducting the scene and flailing your arm around like Leonard Bernstein.

Hairsational

vrpicasso And now with DEO you can move the whole "dome" in every axis, which works better than Heresphere as far as I can tell.

HereSphere could always do that. There is a "user setting" to enable the 3rd axis.

Denarius

vrpicasso Thanks! I'll try setting that up in the menu.

Denarius

Is anyone else unable to set the min and max values with the T-Code sliders in DeoVR at all now or is it just me? They just pop back in their old position after you moved them. I haven't tried rebooting everything yet though.

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doublevr I'm excited with forthcoming DeoVR plans.

I'd be interested to read about those plans, is there some info about it somewhere?

Yahu

SchnuppiLilac Can heresphere place things located more to far left or right to the center of the video?

SchnuppiLilac

Yahu Obviously, you cannot move objects from one place to another inside a video. What you can do, and this should be possible in all players, is rotating the entire sphere onto which the video is projected so that the far left or right will be in the center of your view. Of course, this means for 180 or 200 degree videos that there will be a black area in your field of view beyond the edge.

lolitovtb

I can't find a DeoVR thread, so I'll just post this here. You should really move the new Coaxial Distance slider down. Zoom and Horizonal/Vertical offset are two settings that are usually changed together. However, now I gotta keep scrolling up and down to tweak them because Vertical offset and Zoom aren't visible at the same time. Either make the whole menu slightly bigger to fit one more item or move Coaxial Distance down so Horizonzal/Vertical offset and Zoom are visible

rerun119

lolitovtb Doesn't Vertical offset move the 2 eyes position? Like they should been on a straight plain. If the camera that filmed it was tilted then you can move vertical offset to fix it.
I use Horizontal all the time but never vertical. I don't think vertical is used for zooming in and out the picture.
I could be wrong but I think you are using that setting wrong.

Yahu

rerun119 horizontal offset means drag right and left horizontally?

lolitovtb

rerun119 idk how it works exactly, but on DeoVR Horizontal offset fixes the horizontal scale, and Vertical offset fixes the vertical scale. I don't think it has anything to do with tilt or positioning

They're a must for the new passthrough scenes since the scale is always off and zoom alone doesn't fix that. When the girl looks too small, I set both to +1.0. The scale on regular VR scenes is usually off too, but it's harder to notice since I don't have a real world reference

rerun119

lolitovtb Put the vertical to plus 5 and then tilt your head up to the right and then up to the left. You will see what vertical is doing. It's shifting one of the eyes up and down. The bigger you change the vertical if your head is looking straight on then the more distorted you are making the picture. Just an FYI.

lolitovtb

rerun119 ah I just tested it and you're right. I assumed Vertical offset would have a similar effect on the scale as Horizontal offset, but since I only set it to +1.0/-1.0, I didn't really notice it's not doing what I thought it was. Still, Horizontal offset alone seems to work for fixing the scale

doublevr

There’s dynamic mesh coming in the next DeoVR update along with FOV optimization and in app IPD setup. Can’t wait.
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SchnuppiLilac

doublevr

Btw I've checked HereSphere today and it's just a copy of DeoVR in every aspect:

local playback and streaming logic
banner on top of the streaming site
haptics logic and features
niches annotation

the dude just steals all the ideas from Deo lately. Not a single insight or inspiration.

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr it's just a copy of DeoVR in every aspect

Yup. Even the name is an exact copy. Is this the opening game of the sarcasm world cup?

ThorOfAsgard

doublevr Saying that heresphere is a copy of deovr is not even close to true. Heresphere has always been superior in so many ways. The most profound difference is herespheres seek time which is insanely faster and the biggest benefit to me. On top of that deovrs update in december 2023 screwed it up and it plays like trash and you guys have failed to fix it nearly a year later. I was on another thread about this for months and gave up. My sub ends in a few days and i wont be resubbing both because deovr runs like trash, and because you guys for nearly a year have still not fixed it. You wouldnt even give us the version prior to december that worked, which is ridiculous, especially considering you have a nearly unusable product. Aside from downloading the titles (which are limited to 30 per 6 days which is far far below other VR sites) to watch in the superior heresphere platform they have to be watched in deovr which runs like trash (both streaming and locally). Heresphere has no problem playing any VR video at 90fps with 40% gpu usage of my 4070ti super. Deovr uses 99% and gives me 30fps and has vertical lines when there is movement. Trash....for 9 months.

gillon

doublevr This may very well be true - but if he/they are able to copy features "fast enough" and execute them better, that's going to be superior for end users.

Hoping Deo can catch up as has already been mentioned.

Hairsational

SchnuppiLilac Delusion world cup maybe. Those things are basic features for any porn oriented player.

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