7 min watchtime of 1h long videos - Something must be wrong about it

RockyMtHigh what about customers who are rude to said business owners? How do you feel about them? Do they have a right to be rude or should they participate in civil discourse and air their grievances in a productive manner - or better yet, provide solutions to problems they see rather than direct attacks on the character or others?

Personally I’m surprised you are still in the forum given some of the rude and unproductive comments I see you post. I’ve banned customers from my product’s forum for similar behavior.

The best advice I ever got was “don’t come to me with problems, only come to me with solutions.”Perhaps if you see a problem try coming with a way to solve that problem rather than a frustrated attack?

Sperson they don’t really have a right to or not to be rude. I agree that discourse is best. That said, Business owners should know how to communicate (or simply ignore) rude commentary. It’s really not that hard to politely reply to critique.

That’s what I’m talking about, not the product or anything, he’s just a bad look. The solution is to be kind and stop trolling his own customers lol. That’s not a crazy idea, it’s common business acumen.

I’m a business owner as well, seeing how he and others interact with paying customers aka the most important people to a business is unacceptable. I wouldn’t have it in my company, but I am careful who I hire for PR. If you honestly don’t see issues with his communication style, I guess we can just agree to disagree.

I don’t really care anymore tbh, his response to me mentioning professionalism was to fuck off, so I think it’s a lost cause and I’m just going to use this site for its intended purpose lol.

Sperson let me rephrase, no matter how rude a customer is, business owners should have the soft skills to communicate with them, or the maturity to ignore. Maybe that’s not expected in this industry, idk.

If you disagree, that’s fine. People operate businesses differently. If it is an ESL thing, he should learn from the hundreds of comments he receives from multiple people about how his lack of explanation just made it look bad.

Silly conversation for a porn site though, I’m out, have a good one.

It’s interesting that, when I politely commented on a couple of scenes that 2 hours plus was too long for a porn scene, I got downvoted and criticised to death and yet now people are admitting they just skip to the bits they want to see.

I personally would like to be able to have the immersive experience of watching a scene from start to finish as it’s intended to be watched but I’m never going to sit through two hours. It’s just a waste of time and money to make stuff that long as practically no one will ever sit through it.

I’d much rather they used their time getting the camera positions correct and optimal for each sexual position rather than just shooting for hours in a couple of fixed camera positions. At the moment they don’t really seem to care about optimal camera position, they have so much to shoot in a short length of time that they just need to get as much as they can out of each camera position to limit how many times they have to move the camera and reset everything.

I’m not saying I want 7 or 8 minute scenes but they shouldn’t be over an hour imo. You should be able to set the scene in about 10 minutes or so (if it’s just fucking your girlfriend, then even less) and then 30-40 min sex is more than enough to cover blowjob/cowgirl/missionary/doggy if those are the positions you want to include.

petermc ten people commenting doesn’t equate to general preference. I may spend 3, 7, or 45 minutes in a two hour Nash masterpiece … all depending on how much I’ve got in me and if I had started on that scene or it took four other scenes to get me there. I’m still one who’s very happy to have a large amount of content to choose from in that scene. And yes one day I might get off on an exquisite tease opener, and another day I might skip straight to the Mish section. Choose your own adventure is a beautiful thing, and I’m one to change things up often, and I like to combine scenes to create larger fantasies and themes depending on where my fantasy mind is that day (or hour of that day if it’s a third session). Fact that there’s two hours of footage to choose from is a real value add to me personally.

I still downvote your sentiment - ten times over if I could. Not you personally, but I strongly disagree with leaving perfectly good porn content on the editing room floor, or not filming it in the first place.

@alexnash please keep doing what you do sir.

…All that said, there’s nothing wrong with adding to variety. I’m sure putting together the occasional two hour film with the same performer(s) that was made up of five separate 25 minute scenes with beginning, middle, and ends story-wise, and different outfits, storylines, and positions focused on could me an interesting change of pace and give others what they ask for: manageable full experiences. More preparation and more work to be sure, but it would definitely be different. Actually this is precisely what JAV often does, but few on these forums seem willing to pay attention to the brilliance of JAV directors, and there’s of course that other aspect to JAV that we dare not mention

Vrsumo2017 Has there ever been a scene where the model is actually there to please the viewer the guy with the vr headset on.

I'll just reply to my self

No not that i ever seen and i watch a lot of vrp... BUT! vrhush just filmed a slim thick scene and she acknowledged the viewer with the headset on and said let's get threw this scene together!

https://vrhush.com/scenes/vrh0414_slimthickvik_oliverdavis_180?nats=MzAwMDAyNDYuMy43MS4xODQuNS4wLjAuMC4w

My reply

Cool! Thanks
I just saw the trailer and it looks great, love the cool music with her showing off her body having a good time, and then she acknowledged me the viewer. I like that! we need more scene like that! A studio dedicated to the viwer with the headset on acknowledgement, let the models speak to us naturally instead of them having to come with some lines for the role they are playing. A Studio can be called YouVR.

It's you your headset and the hot models.

"Acknowledge Me" ...the guy with the vr headset on.

Vrsumo2017 I’m not totally sure that I get what you mean as I haven’t seen that scene yet. In VR POV scenes we are supposed to be the guy in the room so she is always talking to us. Are you talking about her acknowledging that we’re not really there and talking to us as a porn viewer sat at home? Not sure I’d be too much into that.

It can work in voyeur scenes when the girl looks into the camera instead of at the guy she’s fucking and talks directly to us at home. In POV scenes though, it kind of breaks the illusion of us actually being the guy she’s fucking.

petermc Are you talking about her acknowledging that we’re not really there and talking to us as a porn viewer sat at home?

Yes, cuz she's talking to the me the vr viewer not me the plumber or massage therapist, or what ever role the model guy is there suppose to be, those are fine I love it all, never change that...that will always be there.

But a studio dedicated to that idea, its you in vr the model acknowledges the fact your in vr and both of you are there for sum virtual pornstar experience.

If I were to do a vr productions like that I'd start the logo intro with a vr headset being put on and then studio name comes in YouVR.

Model walks in. Oh look, looks who here for a vr porn experience, I bet your wife or girlfriends is away or maybe you just need to relieve sum stress, bust one? , you needs sum vr time huh? Your vr games got boring huh? Instantly she referring to you, me, us the vr porn viwer.

Idk, just an idea