mnmlikereal now, why would I lie 
Lol, but right, wth?
Maybe someone bought a few and selling them
The Pico there is not sold by Walmart, but it also offers warranty too, which I'd never get cuz Walmart warranties sucks.
Idk, don't think I'd order it from there tho. 
rerun119 someone said 12k will be clearer then real life, lol
Someone said, idk if it was here or another discussion but they said they used the Pico with out the guard with pt and it looked great.
I tried it with my q2, that does look pretty cool, basicly like a full 360 view more then 200° fisheye, but of course the q2 to heavy to wear with out the face guard, but what would a modify facegaurd be like if it were to help wear the q2 like glasses. 
But
Wow, so I'm guessing with the qp you wouldn't even need the facegaurd. 
for the pt.
I use to use a face guard that had kinda of big gap if I looked down i could see my full chest, I thought that was pretty cool during sum laying cg rcg, u'd look down towards penatration and line up your stunt d to the male models stunt d, I thought it was pretty cool at the moment. This was b4 pt.
Ffs, Man them hologram sunglasses with vrp. 
Holy hell,
Can pico do this too? 
https://twitter.com/Lunayian/status/1607837156357345281?t=Muuc6fm6Q5US8gl-QOe4Bg&s=09
Man I need to stop looking at these q2 pt videos
Making me think twice about what i should get.
probably yes...
as far i know pico 4 passthrough is same to quest pro but the 3d just a little worse...
i have no knowledge about how the depth works on both but on pico 4 there clearly a lack on depth but which only noticeable if you move around or if you hands close to the single rbg camera...
but you can see same problem with quest pro even in that clip at start...the hands bigger than the ak47 he holds and it looks some weird.
i hope i understand the depth thing right...
dudu32 as far i know pico 4 passthrough is same to quest pro but the 3d just a little worse
Cuz it has one camera, is my guess 
yes.
quest pro removed depth before release for unknown reasons...
we are very close to perfect passthrough but pico 4 and quest pro are clearly have lack on that at the moment.
both are have there plus and minus compared to each other.
let's hope that soon or next year someone releases this perefect passthrough where you can't more feel and see the difference and don't notice such things as depth, 3d issues more....and all in nice quality. =)
passthrough gonna be amazing very soon in the future and then we just need only good apps which focus on porn only and are user friendly and easy to use.
dudu32 I think they can do it now but they gotta save that for next releases, can't give all the goods all at once, gotta keep the customers coming back for more...
Quest Pro 2, look! better pass-through quality!
Quest Pro 3, do what Quest Pro 2 couldnt do!
Quest Pro 4, look! you can feel now!, lol
Quest Pro 5, it's in visible, wear it all day 
I bet Quest 2 could of had color, like for real, are we in the 1900's where all cameras are in black and gray, I'm sure they could of made it with color.
Vrsumo2017 It's not that easy if you want lightweight goggles and the battery is supposed to last 2 hours. Pico 4 works 100% when using passthrough. The battery drains very quickly. You want high resolution images from 2 color cameras with high refresh rate (maybe even 90 fps). XR2 chip with only one RGB camera (Quest pro or Pico 4) works at 100% power. Of course passthrough itself doesn't kill the CPU but passthrough + os + app like DeoVr = XR2 rip 
got mine from amazon UK really quick, in less than 2 weeks iirc, waiting for the weekend to unbox it and see if i can't use it offline somehow so videos of me gooning don't end up on tiktok
has anyone figured out how to sideload heresphere on it? or am i stuck with deovr for the moment?
there exist very small amount progs for pico 4 right now at this moment...
maybe someone gonna start to port these soon too like the games...
heresphere probably one of the app that still don't exist and ported for pico 4 but you probably can try use the steam version and run it through VD or StreamAssistant...
that way should work and for many other progs...it's just not native apk.
i'm sure that soon pico 4 gonna have everything same like quest 2 when it comes to soft apk and sideloads...just need to wait for people who do that job and work.
dudu32 yeah i figure the heresphere guy himself will figure it out eventually since the pico OS is just android
he seems active on reddit, i'll search around on his profile and see if he's mentioned it
mnmlikereal i really like it compared to the q2, I only use it for vr cams and SLR tho so i dont care about the lack of games etc
mnmlikereal so with these reviews on YouTube lots say Pico 4 pass-through not 3d cuz it uses one cam, but they say it's not that bad, my question is how do the models look in the pass-through, does it look great or it's decent enough?
I'm sure it's better then a q2 cuz of the color but q2 is 3d pt but no color.
Can anyone really give a detailed review how the pt looks, or an screen record sample.
i had quest 2 before pico 4 and i dont remember that quest 2 had 3d passthrough xD...
for me pico 4 are clearly an improvement cause of color...that makes things already great in passthrough and enjoyable. still not perfect when it comes to quality and clarity but way way better than quest 2...
the black-white of quest 2 just ruins the immersion and is rly bad quality....hard to enjoy anything in passthrough.
i tried passthrough porn on both and many porn stuff with both...
pico 4 wins clearly here over the quest 2 passthrough.
quest 2 has same 4 slam cams like pico 4...
just the pico 4 uses the front 5th single camera for colorize everything and the 4 slam cams does the fake 3d.
i think both don't has good 3d but even the quest pro don't rly looks like it has so much better 3d than pico 4....
but i don't own a quest pro and only can judge by the clips i watched and compared.
pico 4 good enough for passthrough porn and does good job...
don't think that quest pro are rly that much better for this purpose right now but probably for other passthrough stuff it's better than pico 4...
dudu32 quest 2 has same 4 slam cams like pico 4...
just the pico 4 uses the front 5th single camera for colorize everything and the 4 slam cams does the fake 3d.
That's what I ment, that the q2 use more cameras for pt and pico uses 1 
, 3d? SMH
Of course upgrading to color pt is a plus but how do the models look in pt in your room, example say I in a lay cg rcg, does it look good and do the walls of your bg look further away due to its one camera, or it's not that big of a deal??
I'd just get it cuz of color pt, I don't wanna wait till next October, plus I like how it looks
for me it's not that big deal.
it looks a little bit zoomed in but still feels like your own eyes and like if you had just some normal goggles on and see through.
so idk if you mean that but that not so bad and you get fast used to that and stop to notice such things when start playing around with passthrough...
i tried to put some models on my couch, bed, and on my dick...it looks like the things are really in your room and everything fits good.
when i try some passthrough porn on pico 4...i still have this feel that the girl really infront of me and that immersion + able to see own room in color is amazing and feels nice.
its great experience.
not perfect but clearly an improvement over the quest 2 overall.
here some review of an guy on pico 4 who big fan of quest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFVqMq40W-8&ab_channel=TheMysticle
7:20
he talks here about passthrough.
if you bring something close to your face (example your hands) then things start feel weird and getting big and only that can ruin your immersion in passthrough on pico 4...
this is due to the lack of depth and not stereo...if i understand right.
but this is not about models or the 3d objects around you that you put in your room...
these things feels correct if you position them correct and scale right.
everything good and enjoyable.
so if you lay on bed and don't move with your hands infront of your face much and infront of the object model...everything will be look fine and good and immersed correct. =)
your hands gonna be anyway busy with your dick...^^
honestly as a porn device the pico 4 is the best vr headset on the market atm considering price/value..of course you need to be aware that most likely someone in china is watching you jerk off but oh well.. and as already mentioned, its quite "open" in the sense that you can even copy apk files manually and just let them install on the device.
damn i gotta say, i still prefer my index right now, the overall picture quality and experience is still better...the battery died on my pico so i had to do a sesh in the 'ol valve ball-and-chain last night and it was just better
pico 4 picture quality is....odd....i can't really put my finger on it yet, feels like i can "see around or in between the pixels", whereas the screen saturation in an index is solid and feels like i'm really there in the scene
sure the sharpness is a little better in the pico, but there's just something odd about the combination of the lower framerate, the light screendoor effect, the slightly worse tracking, having to jack up the brightness and contrast in every single scene, probably the lens situation too?
all that said, this is all based on pretty limited use, i've only streamed from my main PC with the remote play assistant, and i haven't tried 90fps yet...presumably with time and updates and software improvements, the pico 4 will only get better, but updates won't fix how weirdly it fits on my head, how cheap and janky the controllers are, how i opted to keep one of the protective stickers over the passthrough camera because i just feel icky using it and no effing way am i purchasing anything on the pico store with my financial info, felt bad enough giving them my gmail and wifi password lol
but hey, at least the pico is really, really cheap...it's still amazing for that price which i think is the point considering the information subsidizing
i'm far from an expert on VR but i'm just not terribly impressed with the pico right now, the index is just a much better design in every way imaginable, so comfortable, so easy to use, tons of great software, presumably gabe newell is not interested in saving video of me busting, and nofio is rapidly becoming a real thing that will absolutely convince me to box up my pico and shelve it or sell it off, even as old and beat up as my index is i'll still prefer it for everything, absolutely sublime design by valve
