...meanwhile in the Stone Age:
Sex Dolls vs VR Porn
bbrawl got a link?
Yeah bro imo the torso with out longer thighs to spread are great with vr, a size like Candice or Nicole by tantaly would be awesome size, especially if 70 pounds not much for you to handle. Damn bro!
I have 28inch long, 36 pound torso, big tits with thighs to spread, and my other one is 19inch long 20lbs no spread thighs, bro most of time I'm taking the 19inch out the most, it's just more convenient to use and it's in a split leg position but the pussy not gaped, one thing i dont like on the 28pound is when you spread the legs the lips gape open 
, and lol yeah bro I wonder my self why not just buy a torso, I mean can you thrust a handy?
And pt with a torso holyshit bro! Wooooo! And most times my tosro hidden pretty good behind the image unless I'm moving side to side, but does it break my "immersion"? Nah.
What's funner to use with your experience?
Slr should sell a torsos, should have every one covered, but to compete with other brands price gotta be lower.
Idk how these torsos on Amazon get sold for cheap, I'd buy a few and resale, my 28pounder was 159, could resale it for 300 or more
But yeah bro torsos + vr = awesome 
bbrawl Full size seems nice but it's more joints to wear out.
Not just that, the cleaning after you nut in it, the maintenance keeping it clean.
I seen one guy show how he clean his doll, bro he had it hanging from a mobile clothes hanger in his living room, lol for me I was like nah bro I'm doing all that, it's to much for a fan. I get some enjoy it and full size are like companions for them and 8m happy they enjoy them 
but for me and my living situations hell nah bro, lol
But definitely wouldn't rule out not ever getting one, if I could I'd buy a full size.
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I usually just use wipes in the holes and a scrub with bottle brush.
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Vrsumo2017 Not just that, the cleaning after you nut in it, the maintenance keeping it clean.
I have a 20lb torso. The idea of blending vr and a doll makes sense... until you actually use one. For the most part it does not work. Maybe some cowgirl but missionary, probably not. Position is all wrong idk it just does not work for me, I tried. More than about 20lbs and I could not imagine doing cowgirl for any length of time. Point being, about 20lbs is max if you want to use passthrough, the cream of the crop when it comes to vr experience im sure you are aware. Cause if you go for a true lifesize, body or torso, you will not be able to sorta hide the doll behind the model. If you know what I mean. Ruining the point of passthrough. I guess you could watch in non-passthrough, but whats the fun in that .. and you really are making a tradeoff.
Thats my two cents on that. But just for your info, cleaning a 20lb torso is easy as pie. What I did was take a souldering iron, remove the tip, and connect a long deck nail to it (the hammer end cut off) so basically just a long tip. Turns out the bellybotton of most 20lbers lines up with the end of the canal/s. So i just slid it down the bellybutton once or twice, and met a hole to the canal tips. With me? Then I took some 1/4" icematker tubing, the cheap plastic stuff, adapted it to my laundry tup spout with some HD boxstore adapter I had, took the other end of t he plastic icemaker line and made a sorta cone shaped mound on the end ... like funnle shaped.... out of hot glue. Ok so I take the doll to the washtub, put that cone shape thing to the bellybutton (small hole, barely notice tbh) and turn the tub on. Like a raging river out of both canals! Takes 10 seconds. Hope this helps.
sogman you will not be able to sorta hide the doll behind the model
Damn, probably true bro
I bet if the dolls legs are spread, you'll probably see four legs while in missionary 
Yeah, I'd stick with a torso and vr
Vrsumo2017 could resale it for 300 or more
People buy used ones? 
Hairsational I wouldn't sale it if I used it, but yeah they do
sogman I do the edging and pull out method, after I'll use a t-shirt to wrap my finger and stick it in to get some lube out, then use my fingers till ultra dry in the tunnel, then back in the box, but once they get to sticky I wash em up and powder, so far its been working out good, bro I came in them a few times, smh I have to carry my 28 pounder to the tub, then dry up and powder, bro after my first nut and clean I said there's gotta be an easier way bro, so I started just edging off with them and u know the rest.
I'll nut in them every now and then but not often, maybe on the day I rinse them off, might as well
bbrawl damn bro, that torso came in a suitcase with locks for 139? That's a good ass deal, branded sites hell 800 just cuz it comes with suitcase.
This the one I got off Amazon, when I bought it was 169, right now 129, and says lowest price in 30days.
https://a.co/d/2yFkkqp
Bro and it has gel breast! It doesn't say in the description, so i was excited about that!
The titties are nice to have cuz when you grab on them, kinda feel lime im grabbing the models breast, and then in pt! I have a lamp facing me and gets titty shadows on my wall, lol bro you ve in a missionary position humping away, yall shadows on the wall bro, doll tittys just flopping, shit crazy bro lol, kinda awkward in cg you see a shadow with head, LOL 
still fun tho.
But these torsos are awesome with vr!
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Vrsumo2017 titty shadows on my wall,
Haha! Thats funny. Yeah I could imagine that being fun.
Vrsumo2017 But these torsos are awesome with vr!
Yeah for sure. I got one on amazon. Everybody says nooo dont buy dolls on amazon they are trash, but for $60 figured I wouldnt have too much to loose. Its great! And im not spending $2k+. Its right proportion but maybe 1/2 normal woman size, or super petite. Jelly boobs (I dont think they are actually jelly tbh but still squishy) and yeah after finding out the bellybutton lines up with the canal end, I didnt have to douche it and do all that tedious cleaning rituals. Its actually super simple to clean now takes like 15 seconds fully flushed out. Yeah 20lbs is perfect in VR imo. Yeah its smaller proportion but tbh, after a minute or 2 in vr your mind forgets it and just feels the hips and the ass slap or whatever my mind blocks out the difference in size for the most part.
Vrsumo2017 my 28 pounder
00:20 min: OMG, it's so heavy!
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/birthday-surprise-from-tiffany-rousso-52377?t=20
sogman yeah bro, hell even a fleshlight is great with vr, but with torsos we have a waist to hold on, it amazing bro
SchnuppiLilac lol crazy bro 
I've never seen this one, thanks
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SchnuppiLilac "you want to try" I lol at that part, when he ask the other guy to fuck the torso. 
Look kinda awkward too, seen way better on Amazon
I've used a torso doll (LoveNestle Savannah). It's a great experience if you can manage the weight and the clean up.
I prefer the immersion of passthrough, however the doll bobbing around behind the actress can mess with the immersion. One solution would be to select a custom background scene featuring your own room, so the doll is no longer visible.
An upcoming feature has been discussed in this thread:
https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/4591-suggest-background-composition-themes-for-passthrough-videos/103
Vrsumo2017 First there was Pussy Pals, then there was Butt Bros, now it's time for the Torso Togetherers!
17 days later
Bro wth! 
These look way better then the Musk tesla bots. Lol
Ah bro, next they will make them have feelings, smh ...lol sexbot rejects your request for sex, "I'm more then a sex bot" lol 
it goes off to college.
11 days later
I have used both, but the sex doll is better.
I'm a lonely man in my mid 30's who's accepted that I will probably never get into a relationship. So I watch VR porn to fill the void. VR porn at this stage is entirely visual. The benefit of VR porn is that for a few brief seconds you have a suspension of disbelief. Some people use marijuana to enhance this feeling (hard pass on that since it gives me panic attacks). There's also crude penis stimulation with things like the Handy (never could get erections with that). However, the VR seems to set off my motion sickness and 1 hour of porn results in 5 minutes of vomiting. I could avoid this by having custom-made prescription eye glasses inserted into the unit modified at a different angle to my normal glasses...but I can't be bothered with the costs and hassle. And whether I had this issue or not, I kinda used to get paranoid of the fact that I can see but I'm also blind to the world, I did fall off my bed a few times. But there is no touch, smell, taste, and it's just a screen up close to your face, essentially with non-interactive footage.
The irontech sex doll is actually there. I feel here when I cuddle her, when I kiss her, when I'm inside of her. Her hair is real, her skin on mine is real. VR porn cannot not compare at least not in it's current iteration. I can get an AI sex doll to enhance my sexual experience when I get more money. You don't need to spend a large amount of money to buy one doll.