A mind was changed?!? This may be the first time that's ever happened on the internet. 😀
Thanks for your message. Appreciate ya.
spacepirate theres a lot of pressure on women to look a certain way and instead of taking the hint from society and working to improve themselves or accepting the reality
I hear you, but to be fair, if we all took the hint from society porn wouldn't exist. Society loves to condemn from its mouth what it's hiding behind its back.
And we all have places we can grow. Maybe what, for you, would just be about a lack of self control is, for someone else, a real symptom of clinical depression. Emotional eating to mask pain is a bitch. Believe me, I know.
spacepirate a coping mechanism to deal with the discrimination they face
That feels like a valid thing to me. We all get one ride on this rock, so if someone needs a coping mechanism to make it more pleasant, I say let 'em have it. (So long as it doesn't hurt others, which, I recognize is the struggle we're all having with this topic. Encouraging other people to do unhealthy things is not great.)
ibins Nobody and especially not me said that anyone should be ashamed of their body or for the matter what kind of body types they like.
It's clear from all your replies your concern is the health and well-being of others, and I fully respect that. I should have quoted you so I could clarify what I was responding to.
ibins euphemisms like "positivity"
This is the part that prompted my message, which was just to define what I mean when I use that word. Not as a euphemism, but as an attitude of kindness and positivity toward everyone, regardless of how they're shaped. (Same as I would for their skin color or who they love or what they do for a living.)
I did mention the difference between "body positivity" and "fat acceptance" which is kind of the same thing but also not, because humans have a bad habit of drawing a circle around a group of people and saying "this is what they believe". Three people never agree on a pizza order, so how are 50,000 all supposed to believe exactly the same thing?
In every big movement, there are people on one side who say "Yeah, maybe we should change this a little bit" and people on the other side who are like, "Let's burn the whole world down and start over" and many, many more people somewhere in between.
If we draw a big circle around the "body positivity/fat acceptance" movement, there are people who are loudly PRO-FAT, and I do not agree with them. But there are people, like me, who just believe we should welcome fat people into our lives and enjoy them as humans (like you mentioned you do) without making them feel ashamed for the way they look. (And it's a beautiful thing to be supportive for someone who is ready to make a healthy change. But we can't push them into that. They have to be ready for their own reasons.)
My position is just...Listen to people who live in a large body. See what their experience is like. Empathize with them. I think, if people do that, they'll want to step into that "body positivity" circle, and find their own place in it.
