The poll could be worded in a more neutral way, lol. I'm way more on the natural side as well. I don't even like tattoos. American talent especially is so saturated with plastic surgery, i really don't get it. More often than not it's girls who already have perfect bodies too. I mean it's their choice, just not my thing
Fake tits, lip fillers, botox and drawn-on eyebrows -- does it have to stop?
catflap I agree with you it's nice when you see a mature model with big natural saggy tits and nipples , especially when they have stretch marks on their breasts , not ugly scars due to implants, the pumped up lips are also a turn off , but it's not just milfs it's younger models getting fake tits , pumped up lips and Botox .
So there is just that, nothing in between? 
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Redhulk50 I agree with you it's nice when you see a mature model with big natural saggy tits and nipples , especially when they have stretch marks on their breasts , not ugly scars due to implants, the pumped up lips are also a turn off , but it's not just milfs it's younger models getting fake tits , pumped up lips and Botox .
they make changes to their tits, lips and face for some reason. what is clear is that their appearance is increasingly sexually provoking
abel906 You should have seen how I originally wrote it.
I'll provide some more context for the poll and segue into a rant. I went to a public event here in England yesterday. On walking in, I was startled by how almost all of the women looked identical: eyebrows plucked clean and drawn back on in gaudy brown crayon, lip fillers abounding, some clearly having had Botox, and even some breast implants on display. These are women from all age groups 18-50. A quick head count placed the estimate at around 80% of the women present having had some combinations of the work listed above.
My problem is that, to my eye, it doesn't look good at all -- not in porn, not in real life either. It is so visually disturbing to me as to induce "uncanny valley". Since most of the women in England have now gone this route, my options for real-life fun have dropped off precipitously.
I am actually surprised at how many votes leaned towards the natural look in the above poll. I estimated it would be more like a 50-50 split, like everything else humans tend to hold views about. Yes, I worded it in a totally leading way. That was mainly for lols. But I think it shows the tendency in men towards liking women how they are. (Yes, I would take a hairy-armpit girl with a pretty face and a natural body over a waxed mannequin, if those were the options.)
This leads me to question how women's fashions actually arise. Clearly they aren't doing this to please men, as no man I know has ever asked a women to pluck her entire eyebrows out and draw them back on with a brown crayon. Yet they are all now doing exactly that. How does something like that even get started? My only conclusion is that women have more of a herd mentality where they're all just copying each other and making it into a group activity rather than doing any of it to please men.
And, yeah, give me a '60s beehive or an '80s perm over today's surgically altered mannequin look any day of the week. 
This is possibly one of the worst fashion periods for women's looks in history.
Yeah, the simple poll might be a bit too simple! Do I want to see someone totally fake, probably not (although Kenzie Anne seems very popular amongst VR fans and she is pretty much totally fake). I don’t mind some enhancements though. I have no issue at all with nice big fake tits for example but don’t like fake asses usually.
At the same time there’s lots of girls I love who haven’t had any work done.
I will say though that, where you have pornstars like Briana Banks/Shyla Stylez that did porn before and after surgery, I don’t tend to go back and watch their older stuff when they didn’t have big tits. I was already a fan of Shyla before the surgery as she was beautiful as hell with a great ass and did a ton of anal. Once she got those big tits though, I never went back to old scenes.
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Fake tits are understandable. Many men simply prefer big tits despite scars and disturbed contours. It's not for me, but I get it.
What I don't understand is why an already-attractive 18-year-old would get Botox and lip fillers despite already having full lips and no wrinkles (because she's a teenager, FFS). Or why she would remove her own eyebrows then draw them back on. Or why she'll cover herself in orange fake tan like an Oompa-Loompa, when her pale skin was already gorgeous. It is SUCH a strange list of things to do, yet I now see it everywhere. I can only conclude that this is women copying each other as part of a weird fashion trend rather than specifically doing it to appeal to men (since it doesn't appeal to men, as the poll shows). 
Prefer natural. But sometimes the fillers, botox, lips, and implants are done in such a way as to enhance what nature give them in a natural way--that I don't mind.
For example, Agatha Vega's implants aren't overdone and if not for the scars, you'd probably wonder if they are real or implants. Another example, Yumi Sin--I'm not sure if they're real or implants--even though they aren't overly huge, very few Asian women I've been with IRL (and there's been at least a couple dozen), have natural breasts that large. My wife's breasts a slight bit smaller than Yumi Sin's, and she's Asian, and they are natural, so it makes me wonder if Yumi's are real or natural. (BTW, while my wife does get some botox and fillers, I usually go with her and talk her out of extremes--she has perfect lips, but she wanted those horrible looking filled lips).
On the other hand, for examples, I think Morgan Lee and Victoria June (among others) ruined their looks with the work they had done. (Sorry if you're reading this Morgan and Victoria.)
This is probably TMI, so I may come back and edit down
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mebejoe I have read that Agatha Vega's boobs are actually real, and the "scars" are actually tattoos of writing. These photos appear to confirm that: https://www.watch4beauty.com/updates/in-bed-with-me
Her breasts look fairly natural to me -- just extremely pert, by nature's grace. They are however ludicrous tattoos to have, since they look like fresh implant scars. Who knows what she was thinking when she went for that. IIRC, SLR used make-up to cover the scars in her last video. In that same video, it was also pretty clear to me that she had had Botox, since her face now has that creepy characteristic "some parts not moving" vibe.
mebejoe Looks to me like Yumi Sin has natural breasts in her profile picture, yet has implants in her recent video.
Natural: https://s3.hottiesvr.com/images/4765/Yumi-Sin-small.webp
Implants: https://www.sexlikereal.com/virtualreality/mosaic/id/27568
Just my opinion. I usually have a good eye for this sort of thing (since the disturbance in natural contours creeps me out).
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Well, you're right that they do look a little bit larger--but maybe she put on a little weight? I don't see any scars (I know they can do them without noticeable scars, e.g., put them from the under arms) or weird contours--so, it's a really good job.
This one in Feb 2002--they look a bit smaller as well. But, I've had experience with a couple of former girlfriends getting implants and they look really fake the first six months months or so, while the skin is still stretching,, so I'm wondering how she could go from natural to implants without it being very noticeable in the few months between her two videos on SLR.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/asian-delight-imperial-concubines-25280
Also, she's so young -- maybe they filled out a little?
I agree they look very natural. But damn--what a strange tattoo that makes it look like she has implant scars. She needs to make the tats bigger, like Liya Silver's, so they don't look like scars.
As far as I know Agatha never had implants, those were always tattoos, she started to remove them recently which you can see in the latest video
Well, you're poll is worded in a funny way, even though I prefer a natural look.
I have some experience on this subject with wives and girlfriends, and even myself and my daughter.
My daughter is an RN who works with botox and fillers. She usually tries to apply/inject just enough to give a subtle effect that still looks natural. 90% of her clients are happy with it. But she's in Los Angeles and occasionally, she gets clients who come back and complain that it's not enough. She's shown me photos of lips that needed and little help, and after she's done they look perfect and natural. But the clients come back and insist that she make them look overfilled, and grossly big and round.
At my wife's insistence (she's 13 years younger than I am), I occasionally get botox because I have a couple of deep furrows on my forehead. It normally looks fine. But once the nurse (not my daughter) used way too much, and I walked around with arched eyebrows for three months. That was ridiculous.
Point is--these procedures can be great when used in moderation to keep a person looking fresh and natural--but taken past that point, they look horrible and sometimes grotesque
A little goes a long way--maybe your poll should reflect some middle ground
mebejoe Victoria June is a perfect example of why I dislike fake asses, it just looks weird to me. I’m sure there’s probably some that are done well where I don’t even notice the ass is fake but many of them just look strange. Even the aforementioned Kenzie Anne, I don’t mind her fake tits but her ass, whilst not the worst I’ve seen, doesn’t look very attractive on camera to me, especially in doggy which is my position of choice. That being said, I’m sure my eyes would be out on stalks if I ever saw her slinking around in real life. This is all relative obviously!
Jennifer Mendez is another positive example of surgery to me. I think she looks much hotter with her huge tits.
mebejoe She's shown me photos of lips that needed and little help, and after she's done they look perfect and natural. But the clients come back and insist that she make them look overfilled, and grossly big and round.
Yeah, so it's like the clients are joining a club. They want the work to be obvious to show they're in the "I've had work done" club. It's a bit like getting a tattoo in that sense. Gosh, aren't humans peculiar.
Re Botox, I'm attuned to people's emotions and can usually read them like a book. The face has it all on display. When suddenly some nerves are no longer firing, and pieces of their face are no longer moving, I find it super unnerving. Very "uncanny valley".
Interesting info, thanks for sharing.
BobbyBadass Embrace the uncanny valley experience - it will be an easier transition when the sex robots start appearing!
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I think when someone says lip fillers most people jump to the duck lips thing, which does look daft, but with most people with lip fillers, you can barely tell at all. I know a girl who has them every few months because she has pencil-thin lips and doesn't like it and honestly it makes her face look less severe and she is happier for it, so good for her.
If you asked me a month ago before visiting www.drarunghosh.co.uk/aesthetics/dermal-fillers , I would have said I don't like lip fillers, but turns out I just dislike bad oversized lip fillers