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  • Plz do not kill DLNA , think about adding SMB!

midorijin I've had trouble getting XBVR to work before, but if it ends up being the only option...

Rakly3 If this does work just as well--even if there's a worse interface--then this is mostly a messaging issue. I understand @Aesthetics concerns with having it be a "feature" of DeoVR while an HTTP deal would just take advantage of the browser functionalities. Effectively it would be changing a company-supported feature into a user-devised workaround which people can't exactly expect support for. A smart move if it's effectively equivalent, to be sure.

Also, a note on download vs. streaming statistics--are you able to measure usage of DeoVR to play downloaded content, or are you just measuring download traffic vs. streaming traffic. For a great many reasons the latter could be extremely misleading. The fact that one download equals every instance of streaming from one person. That many people are using DeoVR to stream videos and scripts from other providers (which I know doesn't seem to directly impact your bottom line, but it kinda functions as a loss leader; this is why I'm here, and my DLNA device contains only a small handful of scenes available on SLR vs. many that aren't). That a great many people start streaming, and even manage to stream for a certain period of time, before network performance dips and they switch to whatever videos are on their DLNA.

1 major question and 1 major suggestion

Question: Would script functionality still work with the HTML method? I assume so just based on how the various pieces interact, but this is basically a deal breaker for me and likely many others. I don't use the service without scripts, and if I have to choose between Oculus Linking to run Heresphere and SLR, well, I'll probably go with the one that works more consistently, and that's probably gonna be the Link for obvious reasons.

Suggestion: If you truly believe that the HTML method will be an effective replacement, this whole shitstorm can be quelled pretty quickly. SLR would really be well-advised to lead with this information before talking about removing DLNA again, and probably make some kind of larger, more detailed statement on the forums where it's been brought up (here, Reddit, and Eroscripts at least). The reaction should make it clear that, while this may seem an obvious alternative to folks who are well-versed in the streaming business, to 99% of your customers this announcement basically reads "You won't be able to use scripts anymore except through streaming SLR." I get that for liability reasons you can't give specific instructions/recommendations, but pointing people in a general direction would probably be enough. Something as simle as "For those who are concerned that they will no longer be able to enjoy SLR's content without DLNA, don't worry! Resourceful SLR users can tell you all about HTML servers on the forums!" Maybe with a link to whatever informative topic someone will inevitably write on the subject. We can go figure out how to make it work on our own, we just have to know there's something to search for in the first place.

Very much hopeful that this is more just a communications issue than a majorly anti-consumer move. SLR is a service I would like to stay subscribed to. I almost went lifetime last year but ran into issues with the processor saying the end date was a problem or something and gave up.

        SinSinCos Setting up the app, depending on the system on which it is installed, can indeed be a bit complex without a minimum of knowledge, but once set up, it is pure pleasure to use.
        The only real drawback is that sites change their architecture from time to time and the app has to be updated (which can sometimes be time consuming).
        But in the absolute, the app allows you to completely free yourself from dlna and smb and allows you to make your own local streaming server (or even online if you have a good internet connection and you configure the thing).

        For questions, there is the xbvr discord which helps.

          catflap i would be really happy if @Rakly3 would not engage into this sort of debate or at least mark these as his personal opinion. That does not represent SLR view on things.

              catflap All good. There's some confusion about that. Not sure what's the best way to address it.

              Normally I'm as official voice as it gets (often coming with unpopular opinions yet often proves to be the right ones)

                  doublevr often coming with unpopular opinions yet often proves to be the right ones

                  lol, I know the feeling ... on my worst days... 😉

                      LordCrash it's just historical data. I have powned like 10 big haters on reddit over time. Also things i bring just work great for everyone, while being highly unpopular at the start.

                      I feel sorry for all the good politicians deterrent by mass over time. But that's about being human, used to it.

                      No need to thank me

                          doublevr but how does removing DLNA work out as great for everyone? A lot of members will be affected by this. I understand that SLR is foremost a streaming service but some people prefer streaming, some prefer local playback with DLNA, some don't even have a choice because they can't stream properly anyway.

                          DLNA in the app is what enables easy playback of the downloaded files but you said you are going to remove it and still continue to offer downloaded files despite then having no easy way to play them in the app. Really hard to make sense of that.

                            a month later

                            Yeah please dont remove DLNA. SLR App was the best Allround VR-Pornapp with all the Options. Bring the old DLNA Function back please. My Western Digital My Cloud EX 2 dont work with the new App. So i cant watch CzechVR in the SLR App. My normal Harddrive dont have enough Space.

                              midorijin DLNA is in no way required, read the comments, you will understand.

                              I read the comments and I don't understand!
                              If you mean XBVR then I just spent hours setting it up because that looks just like what I was looking for for quite a while (very promising indeed) but I still can't get it to work! I neither can see the DLNA server (it's activated) nor can I connect to any of the IPs they list in the options. 🙁

                              Since I found this discussion here just today, I wonder if DeoVR will keep the DLNA option hidden. That's all I would need, because so far I cannot get rid of DLNA.
                              If DeoVR will completely remove DLNA, then I need to switch to another player...which eventually might lead to a cancellation of my subscription.

                                  tanders No need to activate DLNA in XBVR, it doesn't work with DEOVR (but with other players, yes, no need to ask me why, I don't have the answer XD).
                                  On the other hand, to reach the application interface of XBVR in DEOVR, it is necessary to use the address http://192.168.x.x:9999 (no s in the http and to replace the x.x by the number of the ip of the machine on which XBVR is installed).

                                      Came in to see why my DLNA wasn't working. I guess I found out why.
                                      As someone who doesn't really download from from SLR, but does from other sites, I don't really want to be using multiple apps. I'll try XBVR, and if that works through SLR, that's fine, but if not, isn't there concern that you would just be pushing people into downloading? The biggest reason that I sub is for convenience, having to juggle between multiple apps in VR not convenient, I would definitely be downloading all my content for use on 1 app, and if that was the case, why sub for more than a month here and there to get content?

                                        Ballow As a reader, you use only one application, SLR app or DEOVR.
                                        XBVR is not a player, it's just a management interface like for example plex which allows you to manage a "local streaming" independently of your internet connection.
                                        So you can very well use SLR app/DEOVR for slr streaming, but also for XBVR for the other studios you follow by downloading.

                                        I'm not pushing anyone to download, I'm just advising people who download and are used to using DLNA (which won't work in the near future) to turn to this solution.

                                            midorijin
                                            And as long as the management interface connects to the player, then I don't personally have issue with it. I'll tinker with it later today and see how it works. But if I need a new player, then its a dealbraker.
                                            But even if it does work, isn't this a step backwards? I understand that developing and supporting features can tax resources, but isn't this already built? And now a 3rd party application is needed to fully utilize the functionality that an app previously had? It's maybe not prohibitive for some, but I can see why this would irk a lot of people.

                                                Ballow Then, you'll have to see that with the devs or the SLR team.

                                                However, I don't really agree when you say "And now a 3rd party application is needed to fully utilize the functionality that an app previously had?"

                                                Whether it's DLNA or XBVR, no matter what, you're always using a third party application to access your files, the only thing is that going from your DLNA server to XBVR, it's going to take some work, that's all, but once everything is set up, it's just maintenance afterwards.

                                                    midorijin
                                                    Fair enough, but SLR was calling on that service previously with seamless integration.
                                                    Now, the user is required to install the application from a git repository. That assumes the user also has the ability to find what they are looking for. As far as a user experience goes, that's not great.

                                                      Samsonite121 As someone who is really bad at the tech side, XBVR doesn't look easy at all. Their webpage has no obvious explanation of how to install or how to run the program or anything. It looks very much intended for those who are super-fluent in this stuff.

                                                          dellicious It's true that there are "a few" small details missing in their installation method to help the less experienced, but their discord works very well and you'll find all the help you need there.
                                                          Once the step is not insurmountable either, you should not exaggerate, the use is very user friendly, especially since some versions for some things that required direct manipulation of the database.