Wikman I have a Oculus Quest 2 and now you can no longer move and tilt the camera up and down using the Oculus joystick , it's not working you can only zoom in and out with the controller, they must have had some update to the app but it's annoying because I miss being able to move the camera position, is it the same for you ?
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Hi Ziso,
I'm only new to VR porn but I am blown away! Thank you for reaching out for feedback.
I'd like to see some improvement to the functionality of the bookmarks in streaming vids. They're a brilliant idea, and a super handy way to jump around the vid to get to the "best" bits, but I find I get lost. I'm not sure if I just watched 'blowjob 1' or 'blowjob 2' for example.
I'm not sure how easy it is to implement but ideally I would lke to see them change colours; one color for currently watching, another colour for already watched, and a third colour for yet to watch. I also had the idea that the bookmarks could appear on the timeline of the vid and honestly I would be greatly appreciative of either implementation.
Thanks again.
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Well, I've just scrolled back to the top after writing this and god damn. I knew that I often go way too in depth and over the top on details but I've surprised myself this time. If anybody actually reads this, you deserve a medal.
I'm a UI/UX designer myself and although I think SLR is probably the best designed VR porn website/app, I have a few thoughts on the user experience and how it could be even better. I came to create a thread about some of my suggestions but then seen this thread, so here we go. Also, I've not had chance to use the SLR app outside of DeoVR but I heard that it's pretty much the same?
Q: If you don't use SLR app / DeoVR to watch - what do you use and why is it better?
A: I use DeoVR when watching SLR content but I prefer Skybox for local content.
Q: What do you like in the current app? What don't you like?
A: I like that the current app has a clean UI and generally well designed, issues are more UX related.
Q: What's your other favourite app in VR?
A: Beatsaber if we're talking about any app.
Thoughts and suggestions:
Video Filters (Resolution, FOV etc.):
I think the current implementation is a bit clunky and the toggles on the left could be improved. 'Show JAV' includes JAV in current results, but 5/6K excludes resolutions below (It seems). Options within the same part of the interface, that do different or even slightly different things, is a bit awkward.
I do like that you made the choice to include JAV and Softcore in these filters, as I think that they are more universal type categories that people probably have a strong preference on. The label for the JAV filter is a little wordy though and I think a more universal filter such as "Censored" would be better, especially for anybody who's not familiar with the term JAV or the fact Japanese porn is usually censored.
The filters often reset back to their default options. I'm not sure if this is by design but It would be good to have these options persist. This may be just my personal preference though, not sure how much this bothers others.
Overall, I think filters could be made more consistent, but still easy to use, using 2 styles. Toggles that are ON by default and range sliders for multi-range options, such as Resolution and FOV, that default to the full range.
Something like this might be more user friendly:
• Resolution - Range slider with common resolution stops.
• FOV - Range slider with increments of 10, from the lowest FOV video on the platform, to 360. I know it's usually only 2 options, 180 or 360, but I've heard people with wider FOV headsets talk about how a lot of "180 FOV" videos are inconsistent and have worse immersion. Would be nice if an algorithm was used to auto detect the exact FOV of videos for use in this range slider. Could also help future-proof for when average headsets have higher FOV.
• FPS - Range slider from lowest video on the platform to the highest with increments of 10.
• Solo/Softcore - Toggle on
• Censored - Toggle on
• Voyeur - Toggle on. Makes more sense to turn voyeur off to hide voyeur videos, than to turn POV on.
• POV - Toggle on. Maybe not necessary as this is the generally expected type of content. If toggled off while voyeur is also off, automatically toggle voyeur on and vice versa.
• Seating Position - Not sure. Is this still relevant? Most videos I've seen have more than 1 position anyway.
Select Multiple Categories:
It would be nice to be able to select more than 1 category at the same time. Something similar to how Pornhub does it would be great. i.e. After selecting the first category, pornstar or studio, change the right-panel categories list to show numbers to indicate how many videos share those categories. Also display plus icons to combine your category choices. Then for example, you could show only doggystyle videos from x studio. You could maybe then rearranging the category list to have them ordered by the amount of videos share that combination.
At the moment, the way the currently selected category appears above the thumbnails is a little odd. The selected category appears as a button/bubble with a filter icon. Clicking/selecting the button removes the category. This is unexpected behaviour. The close icon appears quite far away, to the right. If there were more categories selected, assuming combining them was added, it would probably need re-designed.
Maybe have the selected category(s) closer together with the "X" icon to show that they're related. Then have the filter icon or word "Filters" on the left of the row, followed by each selected category in their own bubbles. If the selected filters row ever grows wider than what the space allows, have the filters become horizontally scrollable by dragging with a controller or using the joystick when hovered over the section. Ideally, keeping the clear or "X" icon in view. Hovering any of the selected filters could then replace the text with a cross to to indicate removing that individual category from the filter list.
e.g. Filters (or icon): (latina) (big boobs) (blowjob) 𝖷
If you've read this far, here's a cookie:
New/Returning Studio Notifications:
I'd like to see something to indicate when a new studio has joined the platform, or returned after having left. I've noticed that sometimes a studio will join or return but I won't know unless I see a thumbnail and realise that I'm not used to seeing them. They could have a catalogue of clips that don't appear in 'New' because they technically aren't new releases, but people might want to see what content they have.
If this was a regular multiple-studio/creator porn porn website, like Pornhub, XVideos etc. it wouldn't be an issue, because there's no point in trying to keep up with the content, since there's so much of it. Since VR has a slower trickle of videos from less sources, it's pretty easy for a user to have a browsed and at least seen the thumbnail of most of the content they might be interested in on SLR, providing they've been using the app for a while.
For example, I've sometimes noticed a new studio is on SLR and then flick through their thumbnails to see if there's anything I can add to my favourites or collections.
In the same way that there's a separate pornstars section in the left-side column, it would good to have a studios page too, with a list of studio logos and names. Maybe even add a brief description of their content or have their 3 most used categories displayed, which could link to the thumbnails page with that studio and category filters selected.
Ideally there would be the option to sort the studios as well. Date Joined (or returned date), Popularity, and Number of Videos could work well for sorting options.
A little visual element, like a coloured tag with the word 'New' could be used to indicate which studios have been added since the user last checked the page. Or simply use some logic to display the tag, like only displaying it if they joined within X number of days.
The studios page link would ideally have a visual element added to indicate new studios too. Maybe place a coloured "New Studios" or simply "New" tag to the right of the page link.
Favourites Notifications:
I know a lot of people, including myself, don't really want porn notifications going to their email inbox. An alternative could be to add an indicator of new content from their favourite categories, pornstars and studios by sorting the right-side categories panel with liked categories that have new content placed at the top. Also adding a "New" tag to make it more obvious. Maybe then remove the 'new' tag after that favourite has been viewed or after a set amount of time.
Adding a visual element to the category icon (the icons at the top of the panel) would help indicate when there's new content too, since only 1 section is seen at a time.
Ideally, these notifications could be enabled/disabled within the app. For example, when viewing a single category, pornstar or studio, the app could detect if it's "Liked" and if so, display a notifications toggle.
Paid Videos and Trailers:
I'm not sure when it was changed, but for some time, there's been no option to view paid videos on the app and the website. I noticed that if you click on the "Hub" button when viewing a video on the website, it still has options like "Paid Videos" and "Sale".
Do these options simply show premium videos that can be paid for by non-premium users, or does it include non-premium videos too?
I bring it up because I noticed that there's still videos on the website (if you know how to find them) that aren't premium and have an option to buy. There's also videos that aren't premium and have no option to buy. I noticed that these videos can still be added to collections through the website, then they become viewable on the app, even if it's just a trailer.
I'm not sure why there would be no option with the website or app UI to display these videos, if they have an option to buy. I can't talk for the videos with no buying option, maybe that's a copyright thing?
It would be nice to have the ability to toggle paid videos to show in the app or even just the website. Users might want to buy them, or even just simply to give the trailer a watch. I personally would like to be able to see the trailers of videos that can't be paid for too, but I understand why SLR might not want to promote those.
General Tweaks:
• Increase the maximum UI distance. Feels a little too close sometimes.
• Auto-detect viewing angle on opening app. Using SLR laid down means I always have to adjust it.
• In player, show pornstars and studio links. Having to click the info tab every time is cumbersome.
• Option to view more than 12 thumbnails per page, maybe? Browsing 12 at a time is pretty slow.
• Is comment count on thumbnails necessary in-app, if it can't be clicked? Maybe just have it in the info tab in the player and then make the heart icon a little bigger so that it's easier to select.
• Category filters and sorting options in Liked videos and collections. When in one of these sections, it would be nice to have the category panel on the left become usable for filtering. Similar to the multi-category filtering I described earlier. Maybe having "Liked" or "Collection Name" count as the first category selected, then combining that filter with other categories. Ideally only show categories that are relevant to that collection.
Local VR Videos:
Viewing local VR video files in SLR/DeoVR is too compact for my liking. A more minimal UI and larger thumbnails would go a long way in helping me ditch Skybox.
I think I remember the auto generated thumbnails in SLR/DeoVR showing both left and right images. Skybox on the other hand generates a thumbnail that doesn't have the split down the middle. This makes scanning the files to find what you want to watch much easier.
In addition, it would be great if in the player, when viewing local videos, there was a button to set the current view as the thumbnail for the file. Similar to the screenshot button, but instead, creates a small 2D image of what's currently on screen and sets the thumbnail. This would make browsing files a LOT easier, as generated thumbnails often capture an unrecognisable part of the video or even an intro screen.
Other than those slight adjustments, it's perfect
In all honesty though, the app is great and nicely designed. I wouldn't be surprised if nobody read through all of that so my chances of seeing any of these changes are probably slim to none, but here's hoping
If you actually read all of that, here's your medal:
This concludes my seminar.
I feel I earned my medal and cookie, but your post was well written and well logically laid out.
I tend to agree with the majority of your suggestions, and the ones I didn't would have minimal impact on my experience anyway.
I really like the idea of 'cascading' categories. I'm more familiar with xvideos.com; when you search a term there is a list of similar/like terms listed, with larger text relating to the number of videos in the new sub-category. Intuitive, and easy to understand at a glance. I imagine something similar exists in pornhub from your comment.
I have more comments on your post but there's my main ones (plus I lack the cookies and medals to award so I will keep this brief).
Cheers.
Haha, I'm glad somebody read it, I feel like it was worth it now. I probably just spent another half an hour re-reading and adjusting it to make it more clear and fix mistakes.
I know what you mean about the xvideos suggestions. That's more of a search suggestion, as opposed to filtering. The way they do it is related to your search term. For example, you searched for X and here's some similar search terms you might also like to try. The way I meant it was filtering categories that share the same tags.
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Redhulk50
Hey, I'm not sure what you mean by move camera position but you can change what controller buttons do in Settings. On the bottom bar you have general settings -> controller. Feel free to customise it exactly how you want it
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sickpuppies
Hey thank you, this is a great idea & easy to implement. I'll make sure we include some version of this in our next player update. Cheers!
I'd like to be able to also stream original untouched video files. Sometimes, reencoded SLR files are even bigger than original files, for example https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/vr-anal-sex-part-3-20158 original file is smaller yet i have to stream the bigger and reencoded file to watch it full quality.
Would be great to have the choice
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joshhayes30
Hello fellow designer I really appreciate this long and informative text! I have read it not once but three times
All jokes aside let's go point by point.
Video filters
I agree big time with you on this one, it just hasn't been a priority to really take time and figure this out. My idea is to remove those filters from the main view anyways as I don't see people switching them often (except perhaps pov). It will be figured out one day, thanks for your suggestions it will be a great help!Multiple categories
This is actually currently in dev, but all this were put aside as our backend is working on some priority features launching very soon as well as tech updates. But it's certainly coming!New/Returning studios
This is also an interesting idea, we'll think about implementation. A studio page with some info is more likely to appear soon.Notifications
Good suggestions, we'll think what we can do. First step is bringing full web notifications to the appPaid videos
SLR started as a pay per video site and after a while we launched Premium. At first some studios did not wish to join Premium scheme so we had videos available in premium and ppv and videos just for ppv. After complaints from users we now only feature videos on the site that are in premium - you can still buy them tho but if you have premium you can see all the videos on the site. The paid videos still exist for users who paid for them previously. So if you are able to see them is an oversight or a bug. Web player is currently a bit outdated as we are building a new one from scratch. Hope this helps a bitGeneral
All good suggestions, some of them are in dev currently. You can increase the UI distance in the new update launched today (let me know, shall we make it go even more away?Local
We will also get to this at some point, currently making streaming excellent is the main priority. These are all great suggestion so I will keep them near me once we get to this.
Thank you for being a customer! We really are doing our best to make this the best experience possible, but with so many moving parts and challenges sometimes it takes a bit longer than desired
A medal for you for writing this, I really really appreciate it and feel free to add even more.
[deleted] what do you use and why is it better? Is there anything we should bring from that app to SLR?
I use gizmo, its got this cool feature that deo dont...
When u watching a vr scene and if u point to the time line to skip threw the scene it shows you thumbnails pics of the scene...
Really help full to scan threw and find certain positions you want real quick
Hopefully y'all can add this to deo.
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Im not that technically versed but I have a pimax 8kx. I use Pitool which executes steamVR when I run the SLR app that is in Pitool. SLR is the best app I have found. I wish I could use it at all of the websites where I have subscriptions. It is the only one that allows me to laydown and recenter the screen easily and adjust my view up and down on the fly etc or play local files easily. For the other sites I just have to download the movies, except for VRB, the playa app works but still isnt mapped correctly to my index controllers. SO I dont use playa either. If anyone uses pimax I sure would like to know the browser app you use. I bought a sub to POVR which looks almost identical to this site but has no app. very dissapointing. SO I have to download files and use SLR app to watch them.
vpurbano I use an 8kx as well, but FYI in case you weren't aware- with DeoVR (and I assume the SLR app), you can click on the usual "download" button on many different sites and it will stream the video, including POVR.
SLR is still the most user-friendly streaming experience by a pretty wide margin, but the above at least does the trick with most sites I've come across. I tend to watch downloaded scenes 99% of the time personally, but the above is handy from skimming through scenes to see if they're "worth" the download.
Wow--I tried Heresphere and it is amazing! Very immersive. How did they do that?
It's too complex for me to use with scripts though. I couldn't figure it out and almost downloaded a virus looking for a solution.
mebejoe Yeah, I like HereSphere a lot as well, definitely become my go-to for downloaded scenes. So many options/settings to tweak and adjust to your heart's content. I really like all the color & image adjustment options, since there's a good number of current studios that haven't quite figured out how to do any post-production and usually look extremely washed out/colorless/etc. Pretty easy to make some adjustments and end up with some more natural-looking scenes. Also the fact that it saves those settings is awesome.
Ignoring all the currently ongoing Deo issues, long term I'd love to see a more extensive set of color/exposure/etc adjustments available, especially for when streaming. Current options help but are pretty limited.
And I've never been able to figure out scripts on HereSphere either yet, not sure if that's a fully-functional thing? It's definitely got a learning curve in general.
I was using SLR up until last night and I got the new Player UI forced on me. It's unusable and if it stays. I'll find another app.
Heathenlamb I don't feel the new player UI that bad. It has potential to get tweaked in future releases to solve most actual complaints by the community. For me there are many posiitves. The timeline now shows the different sections and it's easier to find some preferred positions. And also to combine the options with the main player is not so bad as many here believe because now it doesn't occlude to much of the scene so the UI can be left open longer during playback (if stereo is on during UI visibility).
So DeoVR / SLR app is still my preferred player but I'm worried about the notice that they want to remove the DLNA local Network playback without adding SMB. So then with a Quest 2 and my NAS there will be no possibility anymore to play back local downloaded Network VR content (scenes from other studios or also any other VR downloaded video files).
If this happens then the player looses half of it's right to exist.
If DeoVR drops offline options it will be a big step back.
Honestly for me I was using DeoVR for offline viewing before I suscribed to SLR - and when I started looking at SLR streaming it was an "aha" moment that made me subscribe to SLR - the ease of access to the library.
So - if you remove the offline viewing, you will also lose the pull through userbase of like me who chose SLR because of DeoVR experience
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@[deleted] DeoVR is a very useful app, but it is lacking in several functions that are essential for foreigners like myself.
DeoVR does not support multi-lingual tracts in MKV files. This option may seem like an unnecessary extravagance, but I'd bet the JAV studios on this site could benefit from the versatility of MKV submissions. MKV can include multiple language tracts as well as different subtitles. Of course, there are very few options for some languages and this type of content. However, it is possible to create one language file and then process it in a dozen different languages, for a variety of viewing audiences.
DeoVR cannot be a standard player because it has difficulties with non-standard film dimensions and 3D content. Sometimes while encoding film (like for back-up purposes from a personal collection) one accidentally encodes the black lines around 16:9 . SkyBox provides a number of options for non-standard dimensions. Of course, this probably isn't a major concern for SLR. Yet it is a requirement for a good standard player.
As @catflap says, offline viewing is essential for us poor foreigners. Internet Access at a fast speed certainly is not dependable. Often everyone from the neighborhood will be online at the same time of day, so I try to download stuff, if I can, and then upload it prior to viewing.
So SkyBox is my regular viewing software (for 3D films, cinematic releases, classics mainly) and DeoVR for VR180.
I use DeoVR 95% of the time. PlayA app as an alternative should any issues arise with Deo.
Suggestion to improve DeoVR / things I miss:
custom timestamps, or get access to timestamps on downloaded files.
model name tags. Sometimes it's a pain and timeconsuming to figure out who is who.
consider having model names in filename for us who like to download movies and more easily categorize them.
I love how you can delete files on DeoVR while browsing local files. That was a superb function to add. Can we get the option to move files and perhaps rename them? I find I spend a lot of time to switch between VR googles and the PC to get this job done. Would be very liberating to be able to organize my files from VR alone.