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Porn isn’t supposed to represent real life sex. It’s a fantasy. The girls are hotter and sluttier than you’ll ever fuck in real life, the guys have bigger dicks than average dudes in real life. The sex is more adventurous and kinky than what most people have in real life. Stop trying to make porn like boring real life sex.

petermc so... you're saying... that I don't have a chance?!! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!

petermc Stop trying to make porn like boring real life sex.

Current VR Porn is mostly boring imo - same scenarios, same positions, same formula, mostly same actresses, mediocre acting with exceptions, sterile studio environment, simpleton porn talk, gringe rolling eyes to simulate pleasure, women that act like braindead fuck dolls instead of real women, etc. I could go on and yes I'm generalising.

The best VR experiences for me are currently those that tries to emulate real life sex. Sadly most directors are clueless as to how real life sex is. It can be slow and passionate but it can also be raw and hardcore.

And I'm not saying I don't want 'porn'. Issue is that there's no actual fantasy and imagination in the porn we get. It's like 'you can get your VR porn anyway you want, as long as it's fits in the formula we used for the previous hundred scenes'.

from my perspective I'm okay with whatever cliche porn story the directors feel like using in VR... as cliche as a maid that keeps bending over to clean under furniture, and stepping on a ladder to dust the curtains and chandeliers, for me thats a great VR porn story - as long as they dont keep muting the audio to feed the girl lines and quips like some studios do....

oh and the ass licking thing thats definitely a NO...

OliverDK I just think VR porn is already very tame compared to flat porn and I know people will assume this is about anal sex but it isn’t. It’s rare you even see a girl deepthroat a dick in VR. How often do you reach the end of the scene and see a girl looking a sweaty mess with her makeup messed up?

There’s a place for intimate “realistic” sexual encounters but, equally, there’s a place for “fuckdolls” having wild, nasty pornstar sex. VR seems to occupy this boring middle ground. It doesn’t particularly do the real intimate sex storyline stuff, it does cliche porn storylines instead but doesn’t follow through with actual wild porn sex.

I understand that the POV medium restricts things to some degree as it has to be quite static but VRplayful managed to get in some squirting, manhandling slapping, anal etc. Seems like they were then told to back off on that and just make generic dull scenes.

So yes, give me immersive realistic stories and performances (have some imagination though, not just having regular sex with your girlfriend) but also give me slutty porn stars getting railed everywhere. I like a bit of both.

petermc is that a good thing or bad thing? Porn is supposed to be about the fantasy, isn't it? Granted much of what I film is generally based in reality, but some is just people playing out a fantasy and being creative with sex. I think you are talking about the cheating girlfriend on the boyfriends car scene. That was just them having a good time. That's why we have so much fun doing it. I really am married to Sierra, we really are swingers... and the scene from MARCH 7th REALLY was a couple that we'd been to dinner with probably 6 to 8 times, partied some with, but had never played with. They wanted a 3d video and revived an old OF page just so we could put the 2d there. The DVP for both was on a whim because I figured they'd both like it, and I KNOW Sierra likes it.

petermc THAT is exactly what we try to do. We want to have fun with it and don't go into any scene with a "shot list". it's just go with the flow and let them enjoy it. Static POV does remove some of the personality of the scene because a guy like "the flesh mechanic" or "Johnny Arana" is VERY charismatic... but that personality gets lost behind the camera because they can't toss and turn them, and you don't see his facial expressions. They make very entertaining 2d scenes but would be a challenge to capture that in Static POV. That's actually why I like the way most of our stuff is filmed. I enjoy watching my favorite pornstar perform but also get to jump in with her most of the time. I try to get a little POV if the guy lays on the bed because I know most people want that. But, it lets the mattress actresses and actor truly act how they do. I hope that makes sense and I wasn't rambling

rerun119 why not write your own script? I think without a doubt you post on this forum more than anyone I have ever seen. For the most part you are talking about the same thing. Write the script.

petermc There’s a place for intimate “realistic” sexual encounters but, equally, there’s a place for “fuckdolls” having wild, nasty pornstar sex. VR seems to occupy this boring middle ground. It doesn’t particularly do the real intimate sex storyline stuff, it does cliche porn storylines instead but doesn’t follow through with actual wild porn sex.

Somewhat my point. My issue goes a bit deeper as the reality I see is VR porn turns anything into repeating the same formulistic scene. Here's a 'mommy' scene. 2 minutes after the actress awkwardly 'confirms' her role the scene just evolve into the same autopilot scene where I have to do the fantasy in my head. Here's a GFE and the same thing repeats. The list goes on.

That's why I find VR porn mostly boring. There's no egde, there's no actual sexual fantasy, there's no creativity, etc. It's rinse and repeat. I'm not saying there's not exceptions as there's some masterpieces like in my case Penny Barber' scenes but they are months if not years apart.

I say make scenes that goes all out. I hope you get your rough fcvktoy scenes. It's not for me but I want more VR porn to cater to actual fantasies 100 %.

VRHotwife it’s a good thing. I’m not really looking for non-pov stuff in VR but, in general, yes it’s a good thing. I want to see wild crazy fun sex in porn, it’s supposed to be fantasy. My initial post was in response to the guy who wants VR scenes to be like ordinary people having ordinary sex.

OliverDK Can you elaborate on the "sexual fantasy" that you speak of? I realize that most of what I live with Sierra is a fantasy for many people. You love the idea of being married to a porn star (for lack of a better word). I try to show from my perspective what that is like. Many guys have threesome fantasies, some would be better at it than others... but in VR you've been pretty close to seeing what it would actually look like. So much so, that you may actually do better in a threesome than many other guys. I've been around the swinger world for about 5 years now and I try to think back to what my fantasies were and how do I portray that in a VR video. Sadly, a majority of the "fantasies" for guys stop at a threesome and that's been done. I really do love getting ideas and want to try to incorporate them. I don't have the budget of the big studios to pay the actresses like they do, so I work off content trade with the models until my views, and thus income, go up. I truly will experiment with things and most women we shoot with love getting new ideas.

VRHotwife Have you tried cumming twice in a single video? I have seen this maybe once and the video got very good reviews.

petermc Porn isn’t supposed to represent real life sex. It’s a fantasy.

I heavily watched the over the top porn sex, was all i watched, but 9 years in im kinda liking the natural sex with less porn lines and exaggerated moans. Im good with Non pov or pov.

VRHotwife These concept of sexual fantasy is porn that excites your brain and not just your dick. Watch the majority of VR porn today and you'll see that the sexual fantasy is fantasy in the title only as almost any scene after a few minutes will develop into the same formulistic porn scene and the fantasy is non-existent.

I for example enjoy mommy roleplay but the reality is while it's one of the more popular kinks in 2D with between 10-25 daily releases on ManyVids alone its scope in VR porn is extremely limited and what we get is more than often just a 30 second introduction comprised of something like; 'Hey Joe, your STEPMOM told you to clean your room, what do I have to do to motivate you. I know... I could suck your cock' and what follows is an ordinary formulistic autopilot sex scene without any reference to the roleplay.

Now compare that to a Sydney Harwin roleplay scene and that involves build-up, exploration, constant reinforcement of the role, seduction, intimacy, mix of softcore/hardcore, change of clothes/scenery, often multiple instances of sex scenes in the same scene, after sex cuddling, etc.

There's just light years between the two. One speaks to your cock alone and the other your cock and your brain. The first is a monotone passenger scene and the other engages you and draws you in.

You can replace 'mommy roleplay' with most kinks, niches, fetishism in VR porn and the same thing plays out.

And I'm not really asking for every scene being a Sydney Harwin style scene. I realize that just porn has its place and a lot of people just wants a 10 minute wank while looking at some tits bounce and they couldn't less about sexual fantasy and that's fine. I hot jo issue with that but the sad reality is that most VR porn simply only caters to that group.

OliverDK Totally agree regarding the typical formula used and 30 second roleplay plots..

I understand that studios have rules to follow and are limited to only referring as step sibling but that is so overused and boring. Sometimes it might be better to just not use those words at all and do something else like pet names, having the mother figure be very nurturing etc, that way it's heavily implied and feels legit without making it the typical formula stepmother that everyone overuses in porn

rerun119 I like the idea of the beginning with a story being told even with the guy talking.

Yes have the guy talk during roleplay, that makes it more convincing and engaging. Pervmom do some good 2D videos like this even though they are forced to use step sibling wording, I think a large part of why it's good (to me at least) is due to the guy behind the camera acting along and speaking.

SLR can look at making an AI to scrub male voices for people that are sensitive to it..

A huge pet peeve is when there is a video roleplaying a nurse for example and they use the most cliche porn nurse outfit EVER, something you'd find in a Halloween sale. Why not just go buy some scrubs and dress like an actual nurse? That would be 100x hotter and realistic which makes it very convincing - And no, nurses do not wear sexy lingerie under their clothes

Or plots where the young woman is doing a job interview and dressed to the nines, full makeup, hair, super tight outfit with lingerie underneath - that is not a realistic interview encounter so it totally takes me out of it. I understand porn is fantasy so there is a market for it, but surely there is also a market for more realistic plots?

Either way if there is one thing porn has told me, it's that you cannot please everyone but that also means there is plenty room to experiment

rerun119 Agreed, normal clothes, normal (little to no) makeup and normal hair - the performer doesn't even have to get completely naked because then it just becomes a regular old porn video, leave some of the clothes partially on and use a proper location that looks like a medical facility in some way

If it's a doctors office or hospital room then they're gonna have to keep things quiet and discreet

• Have someone try to open the door and create a panic scene
• Someone interrupting with talk from outside the room
• Even a phone call (actual call) during the sex scene would be great, normally when they have a call it's just pretend and no one on the other end - instant immersion break Shit, get an AI robot on the other end of the call and give it a loose script of things to talk about - performer can give a fake name when answering and it will be convincing as fuck

Normal sounds during sex would be great, not the usual fake orgasm every 2 seconds moaning that's standard "oh fuck me fuck me, oh that feels so good". Sometimes less words is more! That's part of the reason why VREdging is top tier for me; there's few words spoken as they focus on seduction and performance

This turned into a bit of a rant lol, maybe someone out there is reading and taking notes

rerun119 I agree with this point on all levels.
I think I have came to the conclusion that people in porn are so down the porn hole that they only know what they have been told from the 2d world of porn.

Bro the other day I thought do we always need to wear thongs, how bout just sum regular natural panties, and more bush, bro hair poking out of the side of panties is hot! Specially on newbie teens/18 regular pink panties with cheeries on them, bush just busting out, now I could believe that hotties never shaved her self, more bush in vr I'd request, I use to love shaved during my 2d days but vr made me enjoy the bush, I think it looks hotter in vr with hair, I like the top bush but I want it a full bush down to the anal. No trimming just let it grow. That old school porn bush, man they had sum hairy hotties back then! Big bushes!

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lol, those are some very tight scrubs, i'd be without words if I seen a legit nurse or doctor wearing them IRL

It looks like oliviajaymes uses an actual doctors office to film, interesting, I wonder what the story is there

I seen a livestream a couple years ago where the camgirl went into a medical office where they provide physical therapy to real patients, once they were in a private room she let the old geezer doctor grope her and suck her tits - fucking wild so it definitely happens in some rare circumstances, but to make it feel most believable it'd have to be more grounded imo

jommy i'd be without words if I seen a legit nurse or doctor wearing them IRL

Bro! I be seeing more of them when I go for my check ups, this one hottie I'm pretty sure she had a bbl but her scrubs were gripping on them cheeks! Hell my blood pressure going be high if they be wearing booty scrubs like that.

jommy "oh fuck me fuck me, oh that feels so good".

Oh wow I feel you up to my throat"

Lol mean while I know my dick not going up that far to feel her throat while penatrating her pussy..

Hey bro yall ever seen this females content
https://www.xvideos.com/video.ubeomcdf392/porn_vs._reality_-_real_sex_education

She makes great tutorial content
Id like to see a vr channel similar to her content, and it's really needed to vr, could be healthy for the brain, watching to much hard-core can take a toll on the brain, imo

But bro some of these hotties. Either they just great at acting but some hotties be looking like they really enjoying them selves.

That's another reason I'd like to see bts clips of these vr shoots, I want to see behind the curtain.

Ima share this again, maybe other content creators will see it.

But I'd like to see more this in vr

Bro these hotties are awesome, you can find em on vrcamgirls usually late at night is when I catch em. They be smashing

Vrsumo2017 Bro these hotties are awesome, you can find em on vrcamgirls usually late at night is when I catch em. They be smashing

Yeah i've seen them but they are firmly in the "extremely fake moan sounds 24/7" camp so avoid

jommy fake moan sounds 24/7" camp so avoid

True, but damn they look hot in action!

rerun119 But there has to be a lot of us out here that want what me and you keep talking about.

Bro after 9 years watching vrp, I was heavily a "porn fucking" viewer but these days I be looking for the less "porn fucking" so include me in

But, i wouldn't mined pov porn fucking with less porn lines and less over exaggerated moaning...

Some vrp when they do "casual intimate sex" sometimes it's to slow

We can start off slow but let's turn up the thrusting at some point.

So what is it that yall actually want to see more of?

Bro know what else we need? nightgowns

Rarely see nightgowns in vrp. Nightgowns are hot!

rerun119 idk, I'm usually the one wearing the nightgown

Vrsumo2017 idk, I'm usually the one wearing the nightgown

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