VR Porn is perceived as sexual simulation

pkloverx You can't draw conclusions about VR porn based on the metrics for all porn in general, which is mostly free and 2d because of price, convenience and accessibility. People aren't watching pornhub on their phone because they're turned off by the prevalence of POV porn in VR. VR porn is a tiny market because VR is still a tiny market, and even accessing VR porn once you have a headset is a technical challenge, requires payment (for anything watchable) and that entails not just money but privacy / security issues. I mean, I had to have a fucking conversation with my bank to get my SLR payment accepted, and another porn payment caused my paypal account to be closed down. Not to mention the massive amounts of spam I've been subjected to, due to lax security protocols. My Czech VR email address was compromised, then one time Virtual Taboo accidentally published the email addresses of everyone in their comments section who hadn't picked a user name. Only a dedicated wanker would go through that shit!

And even once you've figured out where to go for VR porn and you've paid money, you then have to master the interface and how to correct scenes which usually have production flaws that need fixing. The barriers to entry for the consumer, vs free 2d porn are just too high for mainstream uptake. That's why VR porn is niche, not because of the camera point of view.

pkloverx And now many studios are still stuck catering to the little big crowd that is into simulating intercourse, turning away people that are not into that, who just want to sit back and watch, as that's what porn is all about for billions of people on flatscreen.

You keep saying that because people watch 2d and that is a camera watching people have sex. That's what people want. 2d and VR are to completely different things. You can't look at your phone and have POV like in VR. It doesn't work period. So to say people don't watch POV in 2d means they don't like it is a crazy idea. They're different mediums.

pkloverx Those 1.8mil weekly VR owner porn watchers, know that VR Porn is a thing, but they aren't interested... Why, it's open for guesses, and this is my guess.

How about the idea that 1.8 mil weekly VR owners are not adults. Have you ever looked at the breakdown of the ages of VR headset owners?
Do you think new Quest owners are likely to be 50 or 15?
Just give up and say you like to watch people have sex and wish there was more videos that you liked.

Honestly at this point i wouldn't mind if SLR shot 1 purely non pov scene just so we can all laugh at it being the least liked scene in the past 2 years. Just don't use an actress that doesn't already have 10 scenes on here because it would be a waste.

HughMungus that would only prove though that VR is the circle jerk that he’s saying it is. That, by making only one thing, they’ve cultivated a small user base that only want one thing.

Don’t get me wrong, I have no interest in non-pov VR scenes either but his wider point stands. Porn fans in 2d like a wide range of content from very intimate GFE couples porn right up to super extreme kinks and fetishes. By limiting VR to almost exclusively vanilla GFE scenes, you are generally only going to attract that small subset of porn fans who like that content. Then the circle jerk begins where you only attract people who like this type of porn and you continue to only make that type of porn to keep them happy and the industry stagnates.

Now, I’m not saying we should be going to the other extreme either and having really extreme fetish porn. There’s a huge middle ground though like Interracial porn, gangbangs, anal, DP, BDSM/rough sex which have huge fan bases. Even just gonzo scenes where there’s no story, just porn performers having sweaty porn sex on camera. If you don’t cater to ordinary porn fans, you’ll never get them over to VR. You’d have to commit to it over a period of time too, it’s no good making one scene and then saying “it didn’t perform as well as we hoped”. It probably won’t be an instant hit as the people who like those scenes aren’t currently here in large numbers because you don’t cater to them. They’re not going to flock here and buy headsets for one scene. If they see that these scenes are being made regularly though and their favourite stars are on X promoting those scenes, they will eventually come across.

I’m not sure how we will get there though as it would need someone to take that risk and make scenes that are initially unpopular and might not sell that well. You’d probably need a Brazzers or Vixen to really commit to a VR studio and bring their subscribers over rather than just dipping their toes in. Adult time have committed but frustratingly are just making the same stuff as what is already here rather than mixing up their content like they would in 2d porn.

petermc Do you think people watching porn only like one kind of kink style and that is it? If VR doesn't have their one kind of kink they are out?
Porn is the best study of supply and demand there is. If people want it then somebody is going to jump on it.
If you only like NON-POV then there is 50 pages of it. That isn't enough to keep someone here?
I think you either put on a VR headset and are blown away by it or I guess you aren't.
For some reason people seem to believe there are lots of people trying it and just not liking it. Why do people think this?
I think way more likely is that
1: Tons of the headsets are sold to minors
2: People aren't used to paying for porn so they either don't bring themselves to do it for lots of reasons, or they pirate it.
3: They might have roommates or a wife so it is harder to hide it. Way easier to take your phone to the bathroom for 10 minutes.
If you want more people to watch VR porn then everybody's time would be better spent on fixing these barriers

None have anything to do with just refusing because they don't make their specific kink.

pkloverx What's next? All caps?

Really don't understand people getting upset over content existing or watching and commenting genres they aren't into. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Not everything has to be for you.

petermc How can a video ever be a simulation? It's like saying that watching the attractor screen on an arcade machine is the same as actually playing the game
Unfortunately, there's nothing to help people that are in the POVerty way of thinking because it's disordered illogical behavior.

uioz by definition, simulating something is not the same as actually doing it. No one is trying to say watching VR porn is the same as actually having sex with a real woman.

The map is not the territory...

InfiniteFun No ellipsis at the beginning of the post - does that mean we're entering a new chapter?

petermc in a simulation you can change what happens. fundamentally a video is not a simulation.

alphaRonaldo it's softcore so far