SLR Drive Vision and Future

doublevr

Bobjeff1 could be uploaded for sure.
Playback support with the next app update

Bobjeff1

@doublevr can you look at this video and explain why it won't do passthrough? I lost one of my two tokens but I don't know why it won't do passthrough. It seems to play back fine unlike some other videos I uploaded. It seems to meet all the criteria but for some reason it won't run ai pass through

https://www.sexlikereal.com/drive/scene/id/67657dea4eabf45a9d1e6235
Bunny-MUbN-qsbrvn6hofihg3jqdaydxxh4

metrocube2

@doublevr As soon as I saw the SLR drive interface, the pricing model that came to mind was to charge for uploads, for passthrough credits, and usage-based billing monthly based on out-going data transfer.

To wit, based on the value proposition to me, these seemed reasonable.
$0.50 per GB for upload credits.
$5 - $10 per 1hr passthrough credit
$0.10 per GB streamed from my SLR drive, billed monthly.

Since I'm a lifetime sub, you haven't gotten any additional revenue from me since my one-time purchase. Dangling the prospect of conveniently creating passthrough versions of my favorite files from my collection is how you will convert me into more revenue.

shankpot12

metrocube2 so $14 to $19 to upload, convert, and watch one 15gb video… once? No thank you.

metrocube2

shankpot12 I respect that you have a different opinion. That said, I'd give you $20 right now for your two passthrough credits if you still had them. I have videos I want to passthroughify.

VRLover69

Will my AI PT credits automatically renew? Or will there be an option to purchase more soon?

doublevr

VRLover69 should renew monthly. The drive is in active development. Full functionality is coming up soon

VRLover69

doublevr ok thanks

shankpot12

doublevr soft launch was Dec 17 - is a credit refresh planned for month end or something? Pretty great so far but interested in testing other studios.

VRLover69

doublevr seems like mine should've renewed by now. Can you check into my account and see what's up? VRLOVER99, unlike my handle here.

flo

Just an idea: a lot of people will probably upload the same videos (e.g. from czechvr). Index this videos with a hash to prevent duplicates on the storage. Same for the AI generated stuff. It does not make sense to run the generation again and again for the same videos. Then you can probably reduce the prices 🙂

Hairsational

flo That's sharing copyrighted content and will get them in legal trouble

flo

Hairsational
Is it? The video gets only listed in the users drive when they attempt to upload the original file. From a users point of view, noting is really different. Only the backend will be different. The server could check the upload data after 100mb or something like that, built a unique hash of the first 100mb of data and check if it’s already indexed. If so, the video appears in the users drive and if not, the upload continues and a new indexed hash is created which will be only accessible for the uploading user, until a second user uploads the same file. If this happens, two users would have access to the same file but no one else. This would not grant unauthorized access to files and it could save a lot of storage and traffic. It would also improve the user experience because of uploading will be much faster if the file was already uploaded by someone else.

CH4037

The video I uploaded is stuck in a state where the upload failed, and I can't resume or delete it.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/drive/scene/id/678a52dad9919a0fa7535047

metrocube2

flo The net result of the end effect isn't the issue. It's the presumption that SLR has any rights at all to knowingly distribute content that they don't expressly have an agreement to do so. By tokenizing and storing copyrighted content on their server for distribution, they would be breaking copyright laws. It doesn't matter that the end recipients might have the rights to play and store the content. The issue is that SLR doesn't, and thus can't tokenize the content no matter how much they wish they could.

There's no legal way around this barring making legal agreements with copyright holders, and that's too much work TBH.

Ssiebert204

I still dont get, what SLR Drive is!! ^^
I use DEOVR on my Quest, thats it! No haptic stuff, now Passthrough. Is there anything I want from it?

Hairsational

Ssiebert204 Basically you pay SLR for the privilege of watching your own vids (from sources other than SLR), along with toy script and passthrough features.

doublevr

Hairsational the same like you pay SLR to bitch all day long.

And paying for a car just to occupy space in your garage. And for a phone...

shankpot12

VRLover69 same- it’s been like 6 weeks. I just assumed they aren’t renewing until the full release.

04PH08

I really am looking forward to the drive, but I think the credit system could be improved. Instead of having one credit for 90 minutes, why not scale it to having 90 credits for 90 minutes? That way you wouldnt feel like wasting your credits simply because you prefer to upload shorter scenes.

Why should someone who generates passthrough for ten 9 minute scenes pay 10 times as much as someone doing a single 90 minute scene? Its the same load on the server if im not mistaken.
I feel like this just incentivizes people to upload longer scenes to not feel like theyre wasting money. Maybe people will even start editing a bunch of shorter videos to a single longer one to circumvent this.

I get that you are probably planning with people not using their credits to the full, so I would be fine with paying more per minute if I actually get to use all of my minutes. Just feels more fair that way

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