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Your thoughts? Price for China will be ~ 540 EUR.
Release for Europe or worldwide unknown at the moment
The best headset for porn?
Quest 3 cause 120Hz baby55%
Pico 4 Ultra...passthrough!!!45%
Pico 4 Ultra with 32 MP cameras and 20,6 PPD
This looks interesting!
I have a Pico 4 and its currently in storage as I now have a Quest 3.
But I'll be keeping an eye on reviews of the Pico 4 Ultra now due to this now having stereo passthrough camera and the res of the passthrough cameras.
et232man I have a Pico 4 and its currently in storage as I now have a Quest 3
I still use my Pico 4, I normally use it for the creed boxing game, porn? Not so much anymore, every now and then I will when my q3 dead, only thing I'm not a fan of is the battery in the back, for laying cg rcg its not as comfortable as a strap to lay flat it.
New Pico? I'm curious about the pt, will it be clearer then previous and is clearer then the q3.
Most likely I won't be purchasing it, but I would, I love that Pico 4, for games it's great! 
Vrsumo2017 I'm curious about the pt, will it be clearer then previous
I never really understood why the PT image we see on headsets has to be so grainy while for flattened videos in a phone browser it is perfectly clear. I always figured that the quality loss must be happening in the real-time post-processing of the camera feed. If this was true, I am wondering if a slight improvement of the PT cameras would make a big difference as long as the headset's GPU or whatever cannot make use of it.
SchnuppiLilac especially the avp for 1500+ $ that thing better look high definition looking threw its pt cam, I heard it's slightly better, but still has grain.
I seen one comment someone say it grainy because of the tracking camera, tracking hands and boundaries.
What I wanna know is why some pt footage on YouTube you don't see the grain, literally I be wondering htf they get their pt so clear? 
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Vrsumo2017 quest 3 has 16 MP cameras, downsampled to 2x 4MP. AVP has 2x 6.5 MP.
For the Pico 4U that would be 32 MP downsampled to 2x 8MP
Combined with the binocular overlap and an 25% increase in display brightness, the Pico should be the best headset for porn. Although the Quest 3 lenses could still be better.
The only thing that bothers me is the store. Once you pick a headset and buy games, you're literally trapped insight their eco system. If you buy everything for quest 3, you can easily switch to the quest 4 in the future.
MajesticHD The only thing that bothers me is the store. Once you pick a headset and buy games, you're literally trapped insight their eco system.
Yup, and they have games that not being updated, the creed game for example has been updated on quest months ago and still Pico 4 version not updated.
I heard Xbox suppose to come out with a headset and have metas operating system on it...that might be wrong tho, maybe rumors 
MajesticHD I think all those mobile quest games are crap personally (to each his own of course). The real fun (besides porn) is in using virtual desktop to play flat to vr games like cyberpunk and rdr 2 or classics like Alyx. Well at least for me.
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I have the pico 4 and quest 3, but im planning to buy the pico 4 ultra, and sell the other 2 headsets. I couldnt get used to the binocular overlap of the quest 3, iono how some of you was able to get used to it.
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fenderwq Well at least for me.
I like the combat games, like blades and sorcery, bonelabs, and the boxing games, Creed, thrill of the fight, the boxing I use for exercise. But the other games I got I'll play for few days but i just lose interest, bonelabs was fun with naked hottie mods and I'd spawn a few hotties,, cameras and monitors, download rooms, apartments or find creey basements and pose these npc, but the posing is stupid cuz you can't pose em like a sexdoll, you have to pretty much have to killthenpc and use tools to keep them in a pose, lol it had a dildo dagger too I downloaded and it was insertable like a knife, so I'd use it like a dildo, shit was pretty fun, oh I had this avatar naked with his cock out too erected flopping around when u walk or run, but yeah I turnt bonelabs into pervlabs. Lol 
Bro, but it was fun but just like most vr games I download or demo I lost interest after about a month. Sadly i decided to play recently and they updated the shit and now the mods I spent time looking for, searching how to install mods, where I can actually find NSFW mods, the mods don't work anymore 
smh sum bs.
But yeah vr games don't keep me interested long term, And 2d games are fun to play in vr tho, I like using the web browser search for retro game websites. There's a lot!
Anyways i came in here to say that the Pico 4 "Ultra Ribbed for her pleasure" looks great!
Bro Pico haves AI generated backgrounds, meta say they going to do that but Pico de gallo beat them to it? Wth
But it looks pretty good, I'd buy it! I still have my Pico 4. I just use it for games.
Vrsumo2017 yeah, I get what you mean. I just think those games look really crappy on quest. Even on pc really. It's crazy to think halflife alyx is still the best looking full fledged vr game after so many years. Hardware like the quest 3 is just not powerful enough for gaming and is holding back VR games imo.
fenderwq holding back VR games
Bro what's holding vr games back is sex appeal, most games on meta are family friendly games, it needs more mature games with sex apeal, imagine a Creed game but hottie npc, 2d haves all the fun, I can't remember what the name of this 2d game but it was like hot Japanese women playing volleyball and it was fighting game too, vr is missing sex appeal.
Gta you literally pick up a hooker and bang em, 2d has all the fun.
Vrsumo2017 I can't remember what the name of this 2d game
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See, sex appeal 
, vr is missing sex appeal
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Vrsumo2017 holding vr games back is sex appeal
See this, on the cover you some hints of hot female characters, one is licking a lollipop. One female pouring wine into a glass that looks like cum, it's pouring close to her breast and her expression looks like she taking a pop shot, "sex appeal"
Now here's a popular game on meta
Where's the sex appeal? Just by looking at the cover you wouldn't know this game features decent looking females npc's you can combat with, and it's fun! Throw em around, pick em up, grab em by the neck, I know right what kinda game is this? Lol 
, it's combat, it's pretty cool actually
But imo I think that's what's missing in the vr gaming/meta's game catalog of games.
a lack of sex appeal, which is limiting their appeal to a wider audience, me 
lol
And I don’t mean adding sexual content, but rather using attractive characters to enhance the visual appeal like a gta and other games have done many times. Example, if a vr boxing game includes a good-looking female character to box with, featuring her on the cover could draw more interest. The absence of this kind of presentation makes VR games less engaging and less marketable, sex still sells bro!
And meta ain't selling it. Yet.
Yall know any good vr games on meta? Mature games, I don't mess with steam, I'm poor and can't afford a gaming computer 
But speaking of sex, I wonder if meta will ever put them vr aldut games on the meta store, probably not. 
OK that's my rant about meta games.
It's frustrating trying to look for vr games in meta that my eyes can appreciate
I will post my old comments about Pico 4 vs Quest 3 to this tread
I changed from Pico 4 to Quest 3. Actually I had both for few moths but noticed I prefer Quest 3. I used Pico 4 only when Quest 3 was out of current and was charging 
Then I decided to buy headband with battery pack for Quest 3 and sold Pico 4.
Main reason for me were PT and better lenses. Using Pico 4 I could see individual "pixels", good rays and some image warping. Those were really annoying, especially latter warping. Like some black hole in front of picture delicately distorting everything. Using Quest 3 all are pretty much gone. For me visual quality improved, but it depends from person to person. Some did not see any warping or screen door effect using Pico 4. That souds weird.
Actually you will loose some FOV using Quest 3 
That's is the only negative thing. I really liked Pico 4 because of larger FOV and better lens overlap (no binocular feeling). You can get larger FOV by using Quest 3 without face cover by means of buying Bobo VR S3 Pro head strap. Worth every penny.
Even though passthrough might be better now using Pico 4 ultra, lenses are the same and problematic for me. There are no real reason to buy Pico 4 ultra.
Picouser I never got why people like those bulky headsets. For standing in your room gaming sure. But for porn? Having nothing at the back of your head is one of my favourite things about the quest compared to other headsets I've owned. You can finally just lie down or lean against a high chair. Pico wasn't horrible here but still much worse.
fenderwq There are few reasons for using "bulky" headset.
- Battery life increases. Using Bobo VR and 3 separate battery packs I can triple my playing time. Actually I can use it indefinitely because I can charge two batteries when one is in use. You may probably know that passtrough consumes huge amount of current. About one hour use and Quest internal battery is out of charge.
- Weight balance is better if you have something at the back of your head. Normal Quest 3 is front heavy. I can't lay in bed with Bobo VR but I can lean agains a high chair because bulkiest part is located upper back of the skull, not in lower neck like Pico had.
- Better FOV. Removing face mask gives you extra field of view. You can not do that without using some kind of headband type strap.
- Related to previous. No itchy facial gasket, no pressure to my face and cheekbones, no marks on my skin and no panda bear look anymore.
Matter of taste but being able to lie down versus these four arguments... To me "bulky" Bobo VR is clear winner.
Picouser Better FOV. Removing face mask gives you extra field of view.
Regarding this point: Based on the pictures I have seen, increasing the FOV by removing the facial mask means that you will also get a direct view of your real surroundings while watching a video. Doesn't that interfere with immersion?
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Picouser Yeah, guess people are different, I was so glad to be rid of the backstrap of my old headsets. Hated the strap of the Pimax (which is kinda similar in size) with a passion, but even the Valve index and the default pico 4 where super annoying to me. I'd go so far as to say that one of the obvious advantages of the quest over the pico is that the battery is not in the back.