Passthrough videos are getting technically worse

Manny_S

Thanks for the in-depth response.

Manny_S How do you even expect to watch sitting, laying, standing and missionary from one single position?
i don't get that part
besides, if we to go ahead and adjust the image/dick to one constant point it would look like this:

thats just one example
you can see that dicks are in same spot but the image gets cropped

You put the dick in the same spot in the frame during production, in every axis. I would try attaching laser pointers to the rig, to make sure the dick is always the same place in the frame and the same distance. If that's not possible then at least mark the spot on the monitor. Most viewers are watching VR porn from a fixed position, either seated or laying down, then they adjust the image in the player so the cocks line up. The viewer's cock never moves around, it doesn't get nearer or further, so if the viewer is imagining the stunt cock is theirs then the stunt cock should never move in the frame, either. This means you have to compose the shot appropriately, with the dick as low down in the frame as possible without any distortion at all or possibility of being cropped out during action. If that all sounds like a hassle and too technical for porn, then I'm sorry, but VR is super technical and directors have to accept that.

I noticed the scale changing depending on how close the model is, and I did suggest that was a limitation of the rig and out of your control. I guess you can fix it in post to an extent, but that wouldn't be easy. Given a choice I probably prefer slightly too big than too small, due to image quality / detail after the viewer has corrected scale. You can shrink the model and retain detail but you can't create detail from a tiny model.

As for sharpening - I'd say all the AR scenes are already over-sharpened, even from back in the Simsense days. When I compare Simsense scenes now to all the pass-through on SLR, it's a pretty stark difference. Current Simsense scenes are about as "giant" in terms as scale as you can go without being broken and require some time to fix in the player (Heresphere). I guess the AR Porn scenes look so good and detailed, without any obvious sharpening, because the scale is big, and that's the trade-off. Go smaller and more realistic and give up detail or get ultimate image quality but have everyone bitch about scale. Good luck bro

The director not knowing how to light or follow lighting guidelines and having to do it his way all sounds like a concern, honestly. If you're going to roll out multiple studios when you're dealing with such a technical enterprise, these factors should be consistent. You are right to raise the issue about lighting being too "flat" in PT sometimes, so you can lose the sense of space and cohesion with the PT background, but you do have to make sure that the viewer can always see faces and penetration clearly IMHO. Also, flat over-lit scenes are not necessarily flattering - these deer-in-headlight VR scenes generally are the opposite of traditional large light source glamor-style porn shoots. Hopefully you can keep evolving the lighting so that it works practically and also artistically.

Casting is an issue because as I've said before all the Euro models have been overused, and have clearly been selected on the basis of profile likes or google rankings etc. We were introduced to multiple US models that had never even shot VR when Simsense was running things - Venus Vixen for example. Now we have Sexbabes greatest hits from 2019. So not only do they speak little/no English but the casting is incredibly predictable and uninspired. I already gave you a wish list of Euro talent, but that's just my biased opinion - bottom line, be more creative please! If you need help with casting, you know where we are (although good luck getting a consensus LOL).

Happy to discuss further.

vrpicasso Awesome suggestions, love the one regarding laser pointer. Seems actually quite easy to attach a laser pointer to the rig and make sure the actor's dick is always in the right spot. This way you will avoid a lot of scaling issues and problems. It might make the production more difficult of course and might cause the actors some frustration, but everybody needs to understand that this is high end stuff and not some simple 2d porn.

BTW, something that has been suggested several times but so far nobody has used, is the idea to use a male doll and let the female actor ride that. Actually in PT you dont want the actor to move and ideally you want to remove his dick so you see your own sliding into the vagina (which now is feasible with some PT AI movies). I really think this could yield some awesome results and actually might make production easier. The only difficult thing is the cum shot of course, pretty much everybody hates fake cum. But to me this seems an interesting road to explore.

vrpicasso Well in some clips it actually works really well. But it only works when the cock is not moving much, the VR cock and yours need to really line up all the time, hence that's why I think that it will work way better with a male doll than a real actor.

vrpicasso I personally find it highly distracting when an actor's dick is too different from mine (shape/size/color/hair/(un)circumsized/whatever), I just can't get trick my brain into thinking that that's my dick that I'm seeing. Not sure if I'm alone here or others feel like that too at times, but sometimes I find it quite distracting and immersion breaking.

On the other hand, in those PT AI clips where the actor has his dick quite still and the girl is just riding it and the AI has the actor's dick filtered out, it sometimes really looks and feels like my own dick is sliding into the girl. I agree, most of the times this doesnt work well, because the actor's dick just is moving too much and then it's also immersion breaking when you just see the world around you through the actor's dick. But when it does work, it's just really so awesome. And I strongly believe that the best way to get this right is with a male torso. But anyway, it's a bit related but also a bit offtopic to this thread here

George Good to see you here. I know it's tough to face the mob.

I suppose firstly, do you use a Quest 3 to watch your own AR scenes and VR porn in general? Because anything we say is just going to be obvious when you put on a Q3 and try your own content. Attempting to make VR/AR porn if you don't consume it yourself would be like a vegetarian trying to become a world class barbecue chef without tasting the meat.

In a way, I'm glad the EU casting has not been to my taste because the technical side is not yet where it should be. I wouldn't want you to cast a goddess and then the scene sucks. Perhaps EU passthrough casting should be another whole thread? The issues here are too fundamental for us to get sidetracked into back and forth about perfect boob sizes etc

rerun119 The canon cam has caused A LOT of trouble and that sucked. However, that doesn't mean we need to regress though. Just look at something like the latest Deep in sex scenes like https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/hazel-heart-will-win-your-46508?t=676. This is good quality and proper scale. Then you have VR bangers with video quality even far surpassing that. Why in the hell would we want to regress back to an ancient cam?

fenderwq Funny you say that, I was just thinking how VRBangers is putting out the highest quality lately vids lately. SLR used to be top of the game, VRBangers now seems to have gotten close or even passed SLR sometimes. Too bad they removed the download button, but that's a whole different discussion.

Not sure which cam they use though.