SLRO image look

vrpicasso

I'm not a pro colorist but I'm competent at color correction, and the "after" is a vast improvement. The "before" is way too contrasty, and the more neutral new look allows more refinement by the user in their player to suit their taste and headset. Less "baked in" is definitely better. I also like the new warmer tones, which are more inviting, even if at times the color is not 100% true to life and it seems a bit over-saturated - but that's fine. The "after" colors are way more natural in my headset (quest 3) than they appear in the thumbnail on my monitor.

Some of the clips are brighter and slightly over-exposed, with poorly controlled highlights and washed out tones, so I would subtly correct exposure where needed, to reduce the really bright patches on skin if at all possible. If you don't have the resources to correct exposure clip by clip then ok, the user can tweak in the player, and I'm ok with where you're at right now.

Silly-Sausage

Manny_S BTW thank you for looking into this and hopefully fixing things 🙂

bazzio

Hmmz a difficult one,,. The after looks better in color (more saturated).
I don't know what the first girl's hair should be like in real... could be towards the orange we see in the after,
The before looks a bit pale if you look at the red hair but the rest of the image looks more detailed, contrasted and sharper.
You can see it clearly in the first guy's denims, lot's of details in the before which you miss in the after.

Conclusion: Go for the after (maybe little less saturated?) with more detail and sharpness of the before.

sylvan

not simple: it depends on the extracts; sometimes I prefer before, sometimes after; my criterion in fact is not first of all the color: but that the image has relief, sharpness (see the grains of the skin and not too smooth skin); first wife: I prefer before, the other two, rather after

Vrsumo2017

Manny_S the after looks better. The first sample I really couldn't decide, the before looked good on that scene, but every sample after the that made a huge difference. So I'd go with the after.

You have samples what it looks like raw? straight from the vr cam with out any color correction.

Manny_S

Vrsumo2017 this is raw

Vrsumo2017

Manny_S I'd be interested to see that in the headset, raw

I'm curious about the necessity of color correction in high-end VR cameras, particularly considering their high cost. These cameras are expensive and are expected to provide superior image quality right out of the box?

Why is there a need for color correction with such advanced and costly equipment? Could you explain the reasons behind this requirement?

Just out of curiosity.

Vrsumo2017

Manny_S this is raw

Would this "raw" video more accurately represent the model's natural body color? I prefer seeing the most authentic representation possible. While color correction can enhance visual quality, I want the model to appear as she does in real life. For example, if the model doesn't have a tan, I want her to appear without a tan in the video.

But for sure I'd like to see raw footage side by side color correction samples.

vrpicasso

Vrsumo2017 No, that raw footage is flat / log and supposed to be graded. It is not accurate at all, but it holds all the color information required to achieve the desired look. It's like uncooked steak.

The "before" shots are way over-sharpened. The "after" are using a flatter profile which is then easier for the user to tweak according to taste. Having looked at the clips again, I'd say the after image is a little flat for most viewers and I would pull down the shadows a little to create more volume in the models.

alphaRonaldo

Lately I've been noticing other studios with this same orange tint with overexposed scenes.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/exploring-josephine-jacksons-talents-43540?t=3631
https://www.sexlikereal.com/studios/real-voyeur

This is seeming like a camera issue in itself.

Silly-Sausage

alphaRonaldo I've noticed this too, i was starting to think i was going mad - What i think it may be is that studios might outsource editing and finalsation to a companny that specialises in this and they have got it completely wong.

That's the only explanation i can i think off

Maybe SLR itself is that company that adds the orange tint ?

The latest Porncorn scene looked flippin horrible - Why are a lot of scenes suddenly looking this way with an orange tint and over exposure ?

Hmmmm you've got my spidey sensing tingling - Something is off here, i'm always right !

There's definitely something going on, but MONEY will be involved so we won't hear the truth about it....

Look out for an orange tint and over exposure in any upcoming scene and ask yourself why ?

alphaRonaldo

Manny_S Definitely the newer one looks better saturation wise, especially the background colors. But mixed feelings on the sharpness front(not much detail on model's body). I still see the orange tint wrt skin tone which is a bummer.

FYI: using a Quest 3

alphaRonaldo

Silly-Sausage Outsourcing to another company seems plausible. Let's hope it is just that and they solve this asap.
If this is cam related, studios might delay figuring out a proper cam rig considering they cost a ton.

And PornCorn had amazing 8k scenes color wise. Donno what happened to this one with this orange tint.

SchnuppiLilac

Silly-Sausage Why are a lot of scenes suddenly looking this way with an orange tint and over exposure ?

Are you using DeoVR release candidate 13.20 when experiencing the novel orange tint? They say they changed the default color profile to Rec709, so if you are used to a different color profile, this change would certainly have an impact.

hypertsunaz

Both white-balance looks so off. Grade should be as natural as possible. If not, then just go full film emulation. Or you know, have an art director that can direct the color on a scene by scene basis so that it matches the vibe and content best like how regular films produced.

Jeff777LUFC

I found it difficult to come to any conclusions just from these short clips. Neither looked totally good all the time, maybe the after was too warm and the before too cold 🤷‍♂️. That’s why i was happy when I got a calibrated tv and knew that the image was how it was supposed to be and that was that!

Also it makes a massive difference which colour profile I had the headset set on (quest 3). I normally leave it in ‘quest’ profile, but also Rec709 looked ok. Which one should we use ?

Silly-Sausage

SchnuppiLilac Are you using DeoVR release candidate 13.20 when experiencing the novel orange tint? They say they changed the default color profile to Rec709, so if you are used to a different color profile, this change would certainly have an impact.

I just thought that was in testing stages for now, anyway i just tried on a few scenes and indeed it does help with the orange if i use Rec709 but find the colours a bit bland for my taste and nothing really pops but definitely better than before. I'll have a bit more of a play with saturation and contrast and profiles to get everything back how i like it.

Thank you

SchnuppiLilac

Silly-Sausage I think you can access the RC already now if you join the release channel but it seems you haven't done so.

There was a post about color profiles from someone who seemed to know what they are talking about. After I had read this, I switched from I think the Quest profile to Rec709 in DeoVR on Q2, since it seemed to be the 'right' one.
https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3727-most-accurate-image-on-quest-2

But I think it's definitely worth exploring the other profiles (which you can already now in the regular DeoVR release). Switching profiles changes a lot with one click, and if you like one of the other profiles better it doesn't really matter if it's the 'wrong' one.

Silly-Sausage

SchnuppiLilac I think you can access the RC already now if you join the release channel but it seems you haven't done so.

There was a post about color profiles from someone who seemed to know what they are talking about. After I had read this, I switched from I think the Quest profile to Rec709 in DeoVR on Q2, since it seemed to be the 'right' one.
https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3727-most-accurate-image-on-quest-2

But I think it's definitely worth exploring the other profiles (which you can already now in the regular DeoVR release). Switching profiles changes a lot with one click, and if you like one of the other profiles better it doesn't really matter if it's the 'wrong' one.

Great stuff, i'll have proper read and keep on messing with the settings until i find something which suits me personally.

Vrsumo2017

I was wondering if there will ever be more options added to the image color section, such as highlights, shadows, tint, or temperature. Could additional settings be integrated into the image section, and do we actually need more options?

This thought came to me while I was adjusting the image color settings. 🤷‍♂️

PabloSLR

Vrsumo2017 interesting idea, what would you personally add to the settings and why?

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