How to watch AI Passthrough vids with HereSphere or locally?

SchnuppiLilac

BursVR I understood your problem is that (you think) you have downloaded an AI PT video and it turns out that AI PT does not work when you play it. Did I get this wrong? What I was trying to say is that right now you cannot download the AI PT part of the videos with the AI PT icon. What you are downloading is just the regular VR video but not the mask that makes it AI PT which can only be streamed. And if you try to play these regular videos locally and you are getting the semi-transparent look or "Watch the video with SLR app or DeoVR player", it is because you switched on alpha PT in DeoVR which is not intended for regular VR videos.

It is probably possible to make AI PT work for local videos but for this you will need to download the mask separately and this is not possible at the moment.

Hairsational

SchnuppiLilac this is not possible at the moment

It is actually

BursVR

Ok, I get it, what you say might very well be true. I thought this AI mask works the same way as alpha-packed MP4 files. But then again, when the AI model gets smarter, that would mean the videos should be reuploaded. And that would be, well, very inconvenient to say the least, considering the sheer amount of SLR content. And believing the headset itself did this heavy lifting with AI filtering was a little bit of naive thinking for me. So, it's probably that separate AI mask stream/file that I'm missing in my downloads folder. It makes sense. Now, let's find a way how to download the "offline" AI mask 🙂

BursVR

Hairsational Care to explain how? I would be very interested as I haven't found a way to do it. Thanks.

SchnuppiLilac

Hairsational It is actually

You mean by ways no subscriber would ever use or even talk about because they violate the ToS?

Hairsational

BursVR To clarify, I mean downloading the mask. I'm not sure if DeoVR allows local PT even if you have the mask files though.

sunkenlust

BursVR : The AI passthrough mask is contained in a separate video file, and SLR appears to have put security in place to prevent subscribers from downloading that file. Maybe there is a technical reason the headset can't combine a local file with a streamed file in the DeoVR app...perhaps harder to get them to sync. But I would think it should be possible while maintaining the security. If both files were local, my guess is combining them would be easier than syncing the 2 streams. If you jump around the cuepoints in a AI passthrough video, you can see the streams go out of sync for a moment.

Silly-Sausage

sunkenlust They should release the AI Passthrough tech to other studios on licence or even to users so they can create their own masks of previously downloaded files.

I have so many scenes that would benefit from a passthrough mask and i know a 'Drive' is coming, but that will have too many restrictions due to the size of uploads and ongoing costs involved, server space and the usual price increases with this sort of thing.

Hairsational

SchnuppiLilac The chances are that it is against the ToS, but that has never stopped people from consuming content how they want to. Take YouTube Vanced, for example.

sunkenlust

Silly-Sausage : Here's another idea...I put my SLR credentials into HereSphere and then I get access to all the AI passthrough matte streams, which the HereSphere combines with the videos. Win-win, SLR gets their subscription money for the tech they've developed, and I get to use the VR player I want.

Of course the HereSphere dev would have to build this in to his app, because it doesn't have this feature yet.

Silly-Sausage

sunkenlust Sounds good, but i think both our great ideas are very unlikely

sunkenlust

Silly-Sausage : Maybe. AI background removal seems to be everywhere right now, getting incorporated into smart phone photo software and desktop editing software. Maybe SLR is even using one of the free open source tools out there. If SLR won't let subscribers download their matte files, maybe we can start making our own because the tech will be so ubiquitous. HereSphere would still need development work to make use of them in the future.

Silly-Sausage

sunkenlust If SLR won't let subscribers download their matte files, maybe we can start making our own because the tech will be so ubiquitous

Too be honest i'm too lazy to be bothered with all that stuff these days and if somebody does something well then i'm happy to pay them for it, for now

sunkenlust

Silly-Sausage : I thought I'd run some tests using an AI powered background removal After Effects plugin. On the lowest (least accurate) setting 1 hour of 4K 60fps footage takes about 6 hours of rendering. This is on an M1 MacBook, still considered a fairly fast computer (even though 4 years old). So it takes a bloody long time to make these mattes. Now I know why it's taken some time for SLR to go through their library; they probably have a small farm of computers working on this. Not so easy to do it yourself.

Hairsational

sunkenlust Low-powered laptops aren't a good choice for rendering videos

Silly-Sausage

sunkenlust I don' t think it's worth it for me, if i was in my 20's and excited to be involved in tech when it was genuinely exciting then maybe i would look into it, but i'm now at the age where i understand life and getting away from tech is important, so i'll let others waste their life and get paid for their time.

fenderwq

sunkenlust Yeah it's super slow right now. But give it a year or two and you'll run through these on good hardware in no time is what I'm guessing. AI is moving fast

SchnuppiLilac

Mac Pro Wheels - $699.00
SLR Lifetime membership - $599.99
End of story.

Hairsational

SchnuppiLilac 😵‍💫

fenderwq

SchnuppiLilac hahaha jesus fucking christ 849€ for four wheels in the EU haha had to look it up to believe it. That must be the worst deal I've seen in a long time. Makes my 4090 seem like insanely good value and that's saying something

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