I had subscription here for years, but ended it, though im dropping by to see whats new close to weekly.
I feel, even after 6 years time doing VR porn, its still the same. Nothing is learned, small changes here and there, yes, but overall, its the same as it was 6 years ago. I can't speak for everybody, but i will give my point of view.

  1. It just got borring for me, the setup is the same movie after movie after movie, and the only thing that makes a
    difference is the girl. I know, its a bit restricted cause of the VR camera, but there are other ways.
    I think there should be a lot more NonPov, where its not so restricted, and there could be made a lot more different
    movies, and a BIG plus here is that you can actually see the girl in full. RealityLovers once made one of both, dont
    know why this was stopped, properly something to do with expences.

  2. It's VR, its supposted to be an close experience, and it needs a lot more "GF" experience. I know this is allso an
    individual opinion, but im so tiered of, over the hill screaming girls, that after a century have learned from the porn
    industry, that the louder you scream, the more annoying and stupid comments you make, the better.
    Rosie, Coco, Cloe, petite sexy as hell girls, but christ. The sound and stupid faces coming out of these girls, is close
    to ridiculous. Yes i know some people like it, but hey, then do atleast 50/50 of screaming vs GF experience.

  3. Gloryhole, very very nice idea. Maby this Has something to do with resolution, but hey im straight, and i am in that
    experience to SEE a girl sucking a dick or 10, im not there to suck a dick my self. Again some people like it, but why
    does every movie have to be soooo closeup, that i fell i have the dick in my throat??? And no, im not even close to
    be homofobic, i just dont like sucking dick. Again do 50/50, crazy closeup and suck the dick Vs. loose the tiny bit of
    resolution, and move the camera 20 cm away, it's 2023 with 8k cameras, it will be okay.

  4. More special girls could make more difference experiences, maby a girl like Mini stallion? Not that i have a special
    interest in her, but it would be new. You could look at male acters to, having Dredd's cock in VR doing Trinity St.
    Clair, could be a experience.

  5. As you properly have notised, im not to fond of commecial porn, most of it, is way to unnatrual for me.
    To bad the more amateur friendly VR porn, is so bad quality. I like stuff like casting movies, with natrual girls, with
    real sounds and emotions.( Not the ones, where they try to convince me, that some girl with 50 movies doing DAP
    with BBC, has her first porn experience). Would it be impossible, to do something like this, so its more natrual?
    Maby make a deal with a amateur casting studio, and set up a VR camera, and do a NonPov VR movie of it all?
    Or just any other amateur like studio.

  6. Again, yes something of it has my personal interest, but its just ideas and points to make better content.
    And i know there are thousands of diffrent opinions, and its hard to fill everybodys needs.
    But maby thats why, there shouldent be a straight line, in the way you think when you make these movies.
    And why ill give a point for more NonPov, even thought it take a tiny bit of the idea of being center of the movie,
    when we talk VR.
    In the end, i just need more content thats more natrual, where i have some kind of experience with a girl,
    where i fell im with her, and not i some kind of setup. Setups where you see all of the girl for a longer time, can be
    done with longer "introes", with showoff and masturbation.
    I know it has been discussed plenty of times, you/they, need to get a bit out of the commecial way of making porn,
    and think VR. Its an experience, not a VHS tape. Atleast make some of it, more natrual.

Ps. Yes i know, there are studios, leaning to the thinks im talking about, but they are just way to long away quality
wise, both in production and image. It,s been years since i throwed my google cardboard in the bin.

    IbegU2Die I feel, even after 6 years time doing VR porn, its still the same. Nothing is learned, small changes here and there, yes, but overall, its the same as it was 6 years ago.

    Even though I don't seem to have the same tastes as you, I do agree that there is a "sameness" to it all and that can make it seem boring. In other words, the novelty wears off and it's not as exciting. And that seems to apply to almost anything sexual. Imagine living 150 years ago and being monogamous in most countries. No porn and very little chance to experience anything sexually stimulating outside your own relationship. I'm glad I wasn't around back then.

    Even when I was a young adult, porn wasn't easy to obtain discretly. You had to go to a store and buy or rent it from a real person. And it wasn't as easy to experience IRL casual sex as it is now -- no Tinder and no websites with sex workers offering their services.

    I guess my point is that even though we have unprecented easy access to new, varied, and novel sexual experiences, we still want more novelty. I know I do. But at some point, both in porn and in real life, we seem to run into feeling like we've experienced everything that can be experienced.

    Doesn't this raise issues on two fronts? First, how do we, the "bored" people, deal with this? Do we seek out ever more novel experiences or do we attempt to adjust our expectations? Or both? Second, how do those producing porn respond to the demand that is created? I sure don't know the answer to this second question, which, at the core, is what your post is about, i.e., how should SLR address its users' desire for new and novel experience?

    I've been a member here for several years now, and I can see that SLR is trying. Maybe not the way you want and maybe not the way I want, but they are trying. Probably more than most VR porn sites.

    And I find myself wonder what the next big thrill is.

    For the last few years, I've been focusing on making my use of VR porn to as closely as recreate the experience of real sex --Sex Like Real. I think that's what SLR has been working on as well. Pass through, at its best, can make it seem like the girl is right in the room with you. Haptics make it so you can feel something that suggests the action is being performed on the viewer. Developing phantom sense, hypnosis, and recreational substances can increase the feeling the experience is real.

    Well, I feel like I'm rambling and going off on multiple tangents and I got stuff I need to get done . . . please excuse the incomplete thoughts . . .

    i find exactly the same problem. pov is not interesting to me, im not the guy and i cant convince myself otherwise. it just feels like im watching sex with my head on some dudes stomach. the non pov stuff is much better, the angles are more creative and it does far more for me. the greenscreen has loads of potential but its mostly more of the same, now its a floating dick that isnt mine. give me a solo passthrough scene any day. the czechar scene was amazing and so effective. studios really need to start being more creative.

      I said this myself in another thread. VR porn is way too focused on POV experiences to the exclusion of nearly everything else. I can enjoy a good POV threesome but I would prefer much more voyeuristic, story-based content. My own preferred fetish is lesbians and there's very little of it because either you "are" the girl, which looks weird, or you're the boyfriend watching his girlfriend with her best pal and they talk to you. I'd much sooner watch a VR version of a Girlfriends Films scene where I'm watching a girl seduce her best friend as if I'm not there.

      I'm hoping as more studios pop up, there will be more varied content.

      IbegU2Die its a bit restricted cause of the VR camera

      I think it's restricted cuz the viewers don't let these directors create.

      Imagine driving with a pov headcam picking up a hottie, you drive back to ur house, get a hand job and then when it's in the house they switch to the regular vr cam.

      Sum viewers would complain about the drive quality. So then the director won't try that again.

      It's pretty much why we get the same formula in most big vr studios, every now and then I'll spend time going threw amateur vr and find many new angles and positions.

      We just gotta let them create. Imo I think we handcuff them on creativity 🤦‍♂️

      The storylines are there but camera angles and position it's pretty much the same, its a noticeable formula, it gets mentioned often.

      What I'm really looking forward to is a time when the user can interact with the performers. Ask for a blowjob and the performer gives a blowjob. As for a foot massage and she gives you a foot massage. And so forth. It'll happen some day.

        VR content doesn't evolve until the barriers for entry lower and allow more people to create it. Nothing innovative is going to come from the people making it now. It's not the 4K wild west anymore where we were still trying to figure out what this could be. Everyone is in their comfort zone and just churning scenes out on a conveyer belt. There is too much time and money put into this stuff to take risks now.

        Also, I'm sure you've noticed, but VR porn enthusiasts are a special breed of insane. People will write full-on school shooter manifestos in a comment section if a camera angle isn't to their exact liking. VR porn is still a niche so there's still a need to keep those people somewhat happy.

          mebejoe What I'm really looking forward to is a time when the user can interact with the performers. Ask for a blowjob and the performer gives a blowjob. As for a foot massage and she gives you a foot massage. And so forth. It'll happen some day.

          Man I mentioned this to them before, I said these cameras are capable to live stream why we can't live stream a shoot, the director could be reading the comments, we're on set we just hanging out, and we do sex positions, in the live comments we can ask to lower the cam, get closer and so on. This is possible now, but will they do it? Probably not. Naughty America use to do this. The model be shouting out users names too. Lol

            Vrsumo2017 that would be a pretty great selling point to keep your membership if they offered like a full blown VR live scene like once a week or somethjng, almost like cherrpukos wildoncam but in VR—different girl each week. And she can also answer questions as wel.

              petergriff VR content doesn't evolve until the barriers for entry lower and allow more people to create it. Nothing innovative is going to come from the people making it now. It's not the 4K wild west anymore where we were still trying to figure out what this could be. Everyone is in their comfort zone and just churning scenes out on a conveyer belt. There is too much time and money put into this stuff to take risks now.

              I agree on the first bit as the entry barriers for VR is simply too high. I'm sometimes at a loss as to the investments certain studios will make in AI, scripting, etc. but never consider making investing in getting some of the creative POV specialist that exist out there onboard. They have large audiences that could expand the interest in VR considerably imho.

              In regards to the last part. Well I find that lots of smaller studios seem content and maybe just a personal interest in their 'own sexual experience' in fucking pornstars so they don't listen to feedback and continuedly produce the same low quality shit over and over. I swear that I often think they do it all for themselves and VR is just a way to fund their 'fun' than it is to produce a great product for the viewer. As such I simply stopped providing feedback as nothing ever changed.

              petergriff Also, I'm sure you've noticed, but VR porn enthusiasts are a special breed of insane. People will write full-on school shooter manifestos in a comment section if a camera angle isn't to their exact liking.

              Some people are not sensitive to certain things. Eg. a scale can be widely off and some people will claim 'it's fine' because they don't really notice. I was like that the first couple of months of VR. I never noticed that the models were far too large when I started watching VR but eventually I started noticing. It was all the way back when Julia Ann's has some NA scenes.

              In any case there are things in VR that can just break a scene - like scale or a shit camera placement or angle. It's frustrating to see as a little adjustment (which is completely free) - like tilting the camera back a bit will allow the model to lean forward and her head won't disappear in and out of frame and she doesn't have to bend her head awkwardly when leaning forward. Or pulling the camera back a bit so I don't feel my eyes are in the guy's stomach or in other scenario put it a bit closer.

              Again the issue is that small adjustment can make a scene that otherwise goes into the bin into a scene that you'll keep coming back to. But again we are often stuck with studios that simply just prefer producing the same shit over and over and get less that 200 likes on their content.

                Yes I agree with a lot of what you are saying, a lot of VR Porn is very samey and predictable.
                Like you I would would like to see more non Pov , I think VR porn needs to have more variety, I love Chubby , BBW and I have noticed that when it's in POV you never get to see the pussy it's always restricted and all you see is the models belly and boobs especially during cowgirl position.
                I would love to see changes in VR Porn instead of the usual scenerio and camera angles , I would love to see more under the blanket close up scenes , more massage scenes where your looking down on the models bum cheeks , more VR porn or natural looking models changing into different underwear, more standing camera angles where there are upshots .
                A lot of VR porn studios are just lazy when it comes to being different they just stick to the same old boring scenes , they need to come up with better fantasies .
                Your right about the commercial studios , I would love to see more homemade amateur VR and it would be great if the VR Cam models had videos where you could watch them anytime.

                OliverDK swear that I often think they do it all for themselves and VR is just a way to fund their 'fun' than it is to produce a great product for the viewer.

                This is exactly why I can't watch shit like Tadpole. It's clearly just a bunch of old fat rich guys that wanted to fuck young pornstars and it borders on uncomfortable.

                On the other side of the coin, there's stuff like PSPorn where it's obviously just Paula Shy, her partner, and her friends. That can be a bit limiting but at least I know they're actually enjoying themselves. They're also finding their own niche with the car/hitchhiker stuff. It's still a formula but at least it's a new formula.

                OliverDK But again we are often stuck with studios that simply just prefer producing the same shit over and over and get less that 200 likes on their content.

                I don't disagree but I was mostly referring to the larger studios, the ones that should have the resources and the breathing room to take some risks. VRBangers has six different sites in their network, all shooting the same exact way. Badoink is quite literally making the same exact scene over and over. POVR/Wankz scenes are good but could be made with an AI at this point. Even this site, the "innovators", aren't really bringing anything new to the table in terms of actual concepts and they seem to have an adversarial relationship with their customers anyway. Even if you think passthrough is mindblowing, all of the passthrough scenes are the same.

                I think we're stuck in a holding pattern until the OnlyFans girls start creating VR. I think it's going to be a blow to "mainstream" VR but it'll be a necessary shift. Even Youtubers doing SFW content is going to help move things forward, I'd bet.

                Personally i love both POV and Non-POV, but would love to see more Non-POV as others have said the POV can get a little repetitive with a few exceptional releases.

                For me this scene below is a perfect example of Non-POV that i love with obviously Sybil A who is truly stunning, but the lighting and slow moving camera is just about perfect and considering it's only 5k holds up really well and looks better than a lot of 8k releases.

                https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/sybil-satisfaction-22472

                6 years is long time so Im sure what youre saying must have some points from experience , for me I like the vids but maybe some changes and creativity in the plot of new vids will be interesting , also maybe alot of people likes it but why every actress has to have bush , wish there were more shaved girls
                anyway I like what they doing but im kinda new here compare to u

                also my fav vids are from vrcosplayx i like the adding of new plot that isnt repetitive

                I also understand that they work hard to make new things everytime so im not complaining , if I want something new to be happened Im suggesting here in the forum , and alot of times they surprising me with what I wanted

                Experiences like the first 5 minutes of this up close scene are what blow my mind (and load) 🤤. I didn't watch the rest, and that's how it is for a lot of scenes, and that's ok. I pick out the magical moments and in rare cases like this, slow them down. I think it's better salivating on something exceptional for a longer time than watching less stimulating parts and letting the repeatedness of those unfulfilling, lengthy experiences bog a person down which over time turns into boredom.

                Man, even after that experience, I'm still feeling how good that moment was whenever I think about it. It's a different approach, but that's VR-porn for me and it's very satisfying. It's even better now that I watch laying down in bed with my new Quest3 upgrade from a Rift-seated position. More relaxed and more intimate, her over top of me, gazing into my eyes with the most beautiful smile. I don't know how much more I can take.

                POV is fine...but they NEED to give the option to zoom in as close as they want or zoom out.

                the edging series has great potential...but all shot at the same exact distance and virtually the same thing every time

                i am for putting all options on the table and people can fast forward to the places they like. seems like a waste of resourses (cost of shoot and talent) NOT to include as much as possible.

                maybe take an EXTRA half hour with the talent (girls) and shoot about 3 different 6-minute short clips. (a slow scan up the body for a pov face to face mounting, a slow scan from face down the body for a focus on feet close up so those people can jerk off on them, an overall general scan that ends with a super close-up of puss or asshole held wide up for you to jerk off ON or IN.

                use these types of clips to promote and move people around...sell the clips for 10 bucks each. i would be inclined to BUY these types of clips. these are basically jerk-off clips for the girl...if the girl is HOT, I would buy all three. this shit should be like assembly line crap...especially after the first 3 or 4 girls and seeing how they turn out. little tweaking here and there....but the majority of it with the exact same elements.

                let the girl USE those clips to promote the site