Let's discuss passthrough (not a yay or nay thread)

fenderwq

Yeah, so I think it's cool when it works but it so hard to get it working right. That's also why I think having fewer positions and really putting effort into really nailing those positions is the way forward for the time being.

Hurto11

fenderwq
Agreed. I think the SLR PT specific videos should be way simpler. Like others have said, just one position or like just a striptease/lap dance type video where you can much more easily dial in and align the body. Also should have a feature to delete the male body/dildo. You need to have it there so you can align and reference to get the settings right but then once that’s done you should be able to just erase it from the video and enjoy:

g2kbuffetboy

fenderwq Yeah, for me, cowgirl (both seated and laying down) were the only penetrative positions that were somewhat enjoyable for me. But that's because I could really just stare at their upper part of the body and face and not focus on the alignment as much.

fenderwq

Hurto11 Yeah or just have a passthrough toggle button or a opacity you can use to align.

g2kbuffetboy

Hurto11 Fair response, there must definitely be a learning curve, and doing adjustments on every video and saving those settings to DeoVR will definitely help the cause. But it is definitely "a lot of work" scene by scene (sometimes shot by shot). Is it worth it in the end? After you dial it in, do you find it more enjoyable than traditional VR scenes? Or are they two separate categories for you and just depends on your mood?

Hurto11 No one here overrated it

Not sure about this part though.., It's been the talk of the town here in the forums and on the PT scene comment pages. Also, 40-50% of all of SLR Originals lately have been PT scenes, and it doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon. Everyone's saying how much of a game-changer PT is, but I just don't see it, figuratively and literally.

Anyways, not here to rain on folk's parades, but I'm starting to see why this is such a divisive topic. I could not weigh in before as I hadn't tried it. But now that I have (granted, only for a few hours), I am not sure how I will feel if SLR double downs (no pun intended) on PT as a priority. I'll give it more time though, and do what you suggested with the color settings, etc.

Hurto11

Also fair response and I totally get why people wouldn’t like it. When it’s dialed in do I enjoy it more than normal vr scenes? 100% yes. It’s way better when it’s working properly. It’s the realism factor that gets it for me. Just how like sometimes a crappy iPhone filmed onlyfans video is hotter than a high budget produced porn because it looks more real..like they’re just a normal hot chick that’s having sex. Same applies here. It’s “what if” this chick was actually in your room and you could bang her and while it’s not perfect it’s enough of an illusion to trick your mind and it just feels more immersive even Knowing full well that it’s not perfect. Sometimes the scenery/background of these Vr scenes make me feel LESS immersed after comparing it to a bar not because of how it looks but because of the “realism” factor.

Some videos are impossible unfortunately based on the scenery. When there are too many objects in the background or way too many varying colors, you’re not going to get it work.

Just do this for every video right off the bat and if you don’t get a fairly clean PT and the girl gets cut off or see through, then you know that video is off the table:

Hue 50
Sat 100
Brightness 100
Range 450-700

Those settings will get you 90% there on majority od videos

SchnuppiLilac

g2kbuffetboy they look 80% of their actual size. It's very off-putting.

The easiest way to adjust the scale in DeoVR is using the 'horizontal offset' slider. Increasing from 0 to +0.5 or +1.0 may already be sufficient.

vrpicasso

Basically, my dick doesn't change positions so in PT vids the same rules should apply. Have a real system for ensuring the stunt cock is in exactly the same place in the frame. When you play a scene, there should not be a weird disembodied cock floating in front of the viewer's face, which zips up down and sideways all through the scene. Lock that shit down.

g2kbuffetboy

Hurto11 Great tips! Thank you =)

And what you describe does sound like it would be ultra immersive by concept (them in my room). And I agree with 2D porn in particular, I don't really like the super glamour / over produced videos (like the Vixen aesthetic). So let me try to rewire my perspective when I try PT again. Hopefully it'll be better next time.

Saltydawg1177

Had an interesting PT idea for the SLR studio. I wonder what it would look like if the male model used a colored condom that could also disappear with pass through. Probably a dumb idea but thought it might be interesting if it was only your dick in the video instead of another models.

TimeEntity

My experience with passthrough so far has been that when everything lines up it can be incredibly immersive, more immersion than I've ever got from VR. However, getting everything to line up is pretty tricky and time consuming. I feel like the best parts of many of the passthrough videos are before the stunt cock comes into view and suddenly there's this annoying floating dick getting in the way. I would like to see more WankItNow style JOI vids with no stuntcock. I feel like that would work well in passthrough and the third wall could be broken with the actress acknowledging the viewer.

Hurto11

1000%. It works best for solo vids and In vids where the chick is standing in the room before anything sexual happens. Also laying CG. Most other positions the Angles aren’t very realistic—too far away. I think it’s because they don’t film with PT in mind.

catflap

I am in the minority but I dont really like passthrough.

I want some fantasy, involving some fancy rich persons house, or by the pool or in a tropical, lush garden or resort. Perhaps by the beach, at an art studio, or slithering around in oil

I dont need to pretend someone is actually in my own dreary abode

I really liked that one video where the passthrough was used to create a sci-fi type background. That is the best of both worlds- A passthrough version for those that like it, and an exotic imaginary scene for the role players amoungst us

Diggler

Personally I love PT. makes VR look boring.

I don't get the problems everyone is having lining it up. Just hold both triggers down and move the dick onto yours. Works 90% of the time for me. And the other 10% of the time when the dick is in a odd position or the girl is in a position you don't want to duplicate just move the girl to a good position for you and concentrate on her. Or maybe I'm just easily pleased?

Absolutely love PT. And the more vids they make the better it will get. Remember VR porn when it first came out? If you don't go back to the first vids here in SLR, they are complete garbage compared to VR vids now.

Give them a chance (your support and good feedback) to get it right...it's only going to improve.

I can image a time where they use your room scan to have girls walk into your room, around your bed, climb onto to it and bang your brains out....that maybe a long way off...but were on the road.

Hurto11

Depends. If you're talking about laying CG or sitting CG it's much easier to line up but everything else is very difficult. Even if you do line it up, then the girl is like not even or parallel to your floor, so it doesn't look natural. And the cameras change with every positition so you have to constantly adjust throughout the video which annoys people.

LordCrash

Diggler Personally I love PT. makes VR look boring.

AR porn is definitely a lot more boring than VR porn. It's pretty much always the same with zero creativity involved. No storytelling, no fantasy, no taboos, not fetishes just mechanical sex in your own boring bedroom every time. But then again, some people are indeed easily pleased.

Diggler

Hurto11 Yeah, I get that, but like I say - it's early days. Give them a chance hopefully it'll get better.

But also, most of these videos are over an hour long, when your having actual sex with a girl, you don't lay in one position for the entire time - you move and change positions. I'd expect VR/AR porn to be the same really.

I don't think it's practical to expect an entire hour long video to be setup for one single position - and not to expect the viewer to also change positions, unless AR settles into shorts - maybe that's where we are heading.

justsomedude101

I feel obligated to mention that Passthrough + Virtamate might also be a game changer.

By the time I got everything working correctly my headset was running low so I only had about 15 mins of testing things out...but wow...it seems pretty insane in the greatest possible way 🤯

Now I just need to wait for daytime lighting tomorrow haha

g2kbuffetboy

thatoculusdude https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/quest-3-passthrough-recording.39622/

That is pretty cool, for sure.

justsomedude101 Can confirm - took a bit to get things setup...but it's pretty impressive.

You created this vid? It is very impressive indeed.

justsomedude101 I feel obligated to mention that Passthrough + Virtamate might also be a game changer.

For me personally, CG models in PT seems to be a more interesting medium than real women in PT. It's not something I would necessarily wank off to like porn, but I think I would get a kick out of trying out.

(I probably don't have PC specs good enough to run VAM though; only have a Ryzen 3700, RTX 3080, and I see you have a RTX 4090!!!)

Diggler

LordCrash I'll be the first to admit that I'm probably caught up in the novelty of AR at the minute. Right now, today, I keep going back to the AR stuff. but I'm sure that'll change, and maybe even-out I guess.

But one thing I have noticed is I'm getting bored with a lot of VR videos - apart from the location a lot of them are the same - I find myself seeking out the 'unusual' VR videos for something different - and that's what AR is at the minute...for me, this is a welcome addition - even if it is clunky at the minute.

But I'll keep saying it - it's early days - it'll get better ( hopefully!!).

SchnuppiLilac

If you're ever being accused that the relationship sex is suffering because of your porn watching habit, here's your defense 😃

LordCrash is definitely a lot more boring than VR porn. It's pretty much always the same with zero creativity involved. No storytelling, no fantasy, no taboos, not fetishes just mechanical sex in your own boring bedroom every time. But then again, some people are indeed easily pleased.

Hurto11

Well the idea would be that if it was a one postition video it'd be way shorter than current VR porn. You could do more 15-20 minute vids of just one position specifically designed for PT...OR what would be better is if they could have some kind of AI or algorithm just automatically shift the PT positioning and settings when the camera angle changes in the video itself. That would be most ideal. Like it should get to a point where all we need to control is the colors/level of PT we want..the tilt, pitch, angle etc. should all be automatically controlled and set to the best possible alignment to your own eyes.

Diggler

And actually, what I would like to see is some of the Live CAM girls using AR - I think that would be interesting to be able to interact with these girls that feel like they are in the room with you.

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