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I personally am still not a fan of PT porn (I personally want to be immersed in a fantasy, not my mancave). Indeed, there is no comparison when one claims X scene has Y likes ( HughMungus literally just proved my point). The likes can be coming from multiple other factors: performer, theme, quality.... Best is to sidebyside compare with a VR scene. As somebody has suggested it would be good if all the PT scenes go to a separate SLRO "studio", or have a PT toggle like for JAV (that would not clog up my SLRO feed with PT scenes)

I am still just about fine with the current rate of PT (6 out of the last 20 scenes), but if this goes up (to like half of the released scenes) then I may have to consider my sub unfortunately. After Modern Relationship, there weren't many scenes that excited me this year, so sadly I watch less and less SLRO scenes upon release (or I go back to old masterpieces)

That said there FINALLY is a raw taboo scene coming out with Penny Barber, so there's something to look forward to!

      doublevr you guys can't remove all the likes for PT videos and those are only growing.

      Would be interesting to see the PT watchtime vs non-PT watchtime. I feel like PT would not be anywhere near as popular as the likes suggest given how bad Quest 2 PT is, how few people own a headset with good PT, and the current unpolished PT experience from the production and app side of things.

      it's also true that all the videos soon will have PT option with the help of AI. curious how will it affect native PT production 🤔

      I hope SLR can get to a point where all PT scenes can be VR-first and filmed with a normal background but allow PT users to view them in PT mode. It really sucks having so many scenes with good models that are not enjoyable solely due to that fact that they are PT.

          doublevr I have a Quest Pro. I bought it at launch because I wanted to see color passthrough. A $1500 investment, because I was interested in passthrough. I still thinkpassthrpough is awful.

          It isn't bad because it is in black and white, it is bad because it is shot poorly (lots of unnecessary angle changes, for example) and IT IS NOT VR. VR is appealing because it is immersive. Putting a hard to line up model in my environment is not immersive- at all. If anything it is utterly distracting because you can't ever get it to line up properly, and the zooming/scaling/warping is just more apparent when only the model is being scaled and warped while the room remains the same.

          I agree that should be a seperate subscription, not 1/4 of the one we all signed up for.

          I wish you would stop telling us that we will like what you want us to like, and listen to what we are telling you.

              doublevr Thanks for responding. I think the CGI backgrounds mitigate some of the problems, for sure. They still have a bit of an "unreal" feel in a medium when we should be striving for "real" or as close to it as possible. I do appreciate the attempt to compromise, and it does at least give us access to passthrough stuff that is unwatchable without it. This seems to be the only iteration of this solution, however. If it was more widely available, it might mute some criticism.

                LordCrash I guess we can leave things at this point without further going into fighting 👌

                  Hi @doublevr ,

                  I fully get why SLR is going for PT. Eventually all headsets will have incredible surrounding view, Apple will likely break barriers with this soon. You are essentially creating a market/building a library for something that is soon to explode.

                  I like this, its business savvy. However what concerns me is what @TakingFredoFishing points out. The angles changing, and the models not lining up properly makes it not work even with future PT capabilities

                  So, on one hand current users with Q2 (like me) cannot enjoy these videos.
                  On the other hand users with Quest Pro (or better future headsets) cannot enjoy them either.

                  If going 100% for PT with future in mind:
                  -bodysuit is necessary
                  -angles need to be alligned properly
                  -angles cannot be changed back and forth, only once per scene, I'd go in order sitting > laying > standing

                  I am a big supporter of PT, keep it going! This is the future! whoever has been complaining has deffo never had the experience or they wouldnt complain LMAO!

                    sletje
                    @doublevr
                    +1, I am also supportive of SLR's investment in PT tech. Throwing my two cents in given all the negative comments I see.

                    I get it - it's a bit clunky right now and still needs work. But let's step back and think of the bigger picture here. The upcoming generation of headsets will have the full-color passthrough, blurring the line between what is VR and what is real. And that is not far away. One year from now, the quest 3 will likely have replaced most of the quest 2's out there.

                    In parallel, haptics tech has advanced drastically in the last few years with the introduction of the OSR2, SR6, and multi-access scripts. These devices can mimic grinding motion across 6 axes, and there is even a squeezing capability in the works. On top of that new sleeves such as the Zxy, Venus Real, and the Nagai brought a level of realism that has ever been seen before with toys. If you need convincing, try out one of the SLR multi-access scripts on an OSR2/SR6 equipped with a Venus Real!

                    Now imagine what happens when you put this all together. Imagine a life-like model in front of you, in your bed or on your couch. You feel every movement that you see. We are so close to having the tech to make this possible. I want to see it happen 🙂.

                    What convinced me to buy a lifetime sub to SLR, is the vision. I saw these folks push the boundaries - investing in PT, investing in multi-axis, even trying to build the first commercial multi-axis haptics device. What other company in the adult space is doing this?
                    I don't know about you, but I'm not going to be content with just keeping the status quo and pushing out content. I want to see the most realistic experiences brought to life.

                    Unlike most companies in this space, with SLR, we have a direct feedback channel to their CEO. Please don't use it to try to talk him out of pushing the boundaries and being like all the other content providers.
                    Instead, let's work together to make this thing happen. Look how far AI-generated scripts have come, and how the SLR team acted on the feedback received. The same will happen with PT.

                    Yes, it is a little clunky at the moment. But keep in mind the big picture, and where we can get given a bit of time from now.

                        I don't hate passthrough but I also don't think I'd be upset if it wasn't on the site. I think we're still several generations away from the tech being in a place where our brains are going to be "tricked" by it.

                        I also think using the performance of passthrough videos as a metric for the success of the concept can be a little misleading. The only solo scene with Laya Rae is passthrough. When I hit like for that video, it's for her, because if this forum has taught me anything, it's that if a talent doesn't reach whatever performances thresholds you're looking for, the chances of ever seeing them again are basically zero.

                        netcat I think you are misinterpreting the PT criticism. Nobody is trying to get doublevr to completely drop PT.

                          netcat Yeah just to clarify, I'm not totally against it I just think it should probably be used sparingly until we get to the point in the near future you're talking about. Keep in mind, even VR is still considered somewhat "niche" at this point and AR even moreso. That being said, I'm fine with SLR and other companies making stuff thats not for me as it helps the business/industry overall so I'm not coming in guns a-blazing, but perhaps a different kind of subscription model for AR in the future makes the most sense....

                          I'm really only perturbed by it when someone like Lily Lou. or any bigger name star we haven't seen for a while/at all in VR gets a PT scene. Something just seems wasted in booking a popular talent like that with the inferior tech available in the current moment.

                            Most of you folk complaining about pass through can't decide what you like. Whenever a non pass through scene is released, you start going on about picture quality, camera angles, story lines etc. Just a bunch of drama queens in reality.

                              theHobbit You may be happy paying for potato quality videos with lousy camera angles and no story but that doesn't mean everyone else should be too. Everyone here has different expectations. Labelling those who aren't perfectly happy with the status quo drama queens is pretty ignorant.

                                  Hairsational actually it's not. It's the constant regurgitation of the same old complaints that have been answered time and time again. It amazes me how patient @doublevr is with you guys. You have access to the CEO of the platform you use, he engages with your critiques and complaints and a lot of what you say could be read as 'we can do the job better than you Alex'.

                                  I don't think I know of any other organisation where the CEO is as active and yet still the complaints.

                                  It's porn, it's not that serious. Something you can use to jerk off. If the face, tits and ass aren't doing it for you find another video that does. It's as simple as that.

                                  If you want story lines - get Netflix or go to the movies, there is some good stuff on there and in the theatre you can feel fully immersed or whatever lol.