ilfdsm Yes first aiming first for DG-LAB Coyote support as it seems like a great starting point with user friendly Bluetooth connectivity
Any E-stim users around? Should we make it work with VR and flat videos?
Hi all - Just providing an update as we further dive into E-stim support:
First E-stim device planned for support is the popular and inexpensive DG-LAB Coyote device = https://www.dungeon-lab.com/home.php
(If all goes well, then I'm sure we will look into supporting other popular and more premium E-stim devices)
Currently the DG-LAB Coyote device is not available for purchase as they are working on a new improved next generation device, but in the meantime we are hopeful in preparing for support for existing Coyote owners, with new version support shortly thereafter)
The DG-LAB Coyote is a great first e-stim candidate as it offers out of the box wireless bluetooth connectivity, and they have recently openly shared their bluetooth protocol on their own website: https://github.com/DG-LAB-OPENSOURCE/DG-LAB-OPENSOURCE
Currently many Coyote toy users use the site www.xtoys.app to connect and play videos and corresponding funscripts
(Just a headsup that users have reported buggy and sluggish performance issues when utilizing the site)
We are looking to provide an even better seamless connectivity with high performance playback with similar, if not more, features to help streamline and enhance the toy experience
(It would be great to get any feedback from users who use their toys with xtoys.app and let us know which features you find are must haves, and features you would like to have us introduce to our very own haptics connect app!)
Important goals to consider are:
- ensuring safe and private bluetooth security
- ensuring fully foolproof safety limits as well as easy ramping up and ramping down of intensity
- ensuring e-stim signals activate and deactivate instantly with little to zero lag time
If you are interested in reading more in E-stim devices like the DG lab coyote device, check out this great Q&A thread on reddit from DG-LAB Engineer team themselves!
great
YAY!
Any updates on where we're up to with this feature?
ilfdsm - we are still awaiting DG Coyote to release their new device version which they mentioned is about a month or so away, so hopefully we can get their new device in our hands before employing proper support for it
We find a hard time getting mass market device.
Also got this feedback from our tester
That said - its been an uncomfortable experience still in my testing - its pretty much what I expected - feels like zapping on your genitals, which is, in my opinion, very far from pleasurable (more pain that pleasure)
Im skeptical about support for it - I just would never plan to ever use it again personally especially when we have more enjoyable toys out there
doublevr Hmm, this sounds like someone who has agreed to sign up with no experience of estim.
I hope I can make this clear: "zapping your genitals" is far away from the reality of e-stim and that statement alone shows that this is someone who doesn't know what they're doing.
I highly recommend you find beta testers who are capable of using the Coyote or any other e-stim device correctly. If the feature is to be scrapped based on one individual's likely incompetence it would be a great shame.
doublevr That said - its been an uncomfortable experience still in my testing - its pretty much what I expected - feels like zapping on your genitals, which is, in my opinion, very far from pleasurable (more pain that pleasure)
Im skeptical about support for it - I just would never plan to ever use it again personally especially when we have more enjoyable toys out there
It sounds like this tester doesn't like e-stim or doesn't have a lot of previous experience with it. If so, you should consider getting someone who already likes e-stim to test it.
mebejoe Hey guys - that was actually my internal feedback after a few sessions I've tried with the DG Coyote device (publicly I would have worded things a bit differently)
Just to be clear, we aren't saying at all that we are scrapping e-stim support (its still planned) but this is just not your typical out of-the-box stroker sex toy experience (or any sex experience for that matter) that many of us have been accustomed to
I havent yet found a more comfortable pleasurable method of use, but I am still investigating and researching based on yours and others feedback and tips
I've created a group thread with the 2 of you (@ilfdsm + @mebejoe ) in hopes we can better figure this out together so please feel free to further respond there
There also may just be a limitation on the sensations to be had with current DG Coyote, and maybe other E-stim units may provide better sensations (although I believe DG Coyote is the only device that is bluetooth compatible, please correct me if im wrong about that)
I've also tried to look at the device as a new user who may be interested but unfamiliar with e-stim, as there are many precautions to be careful about while in use and many settings that are not very clear yet very important to not over-adjust. I think thats where SLR can step in and make things much more easier and user friendly
Hi everyone! Just a small update on the E-stim.
We got in contact with a few e-stim manufacturers and it seems that the earliest we can get our hands on e-stim device is within the next 1-1,5 months and then we will be able to start working on the integration
RealcumberScripts which and how you use electrodes is even more important than the control box itself.
As a rule of thumb the bigger the surface of the contact to the skin the less spikes or stings.
Using enough electrode gel to enhance conductivity is important too.
Electrodes coming with cheap Chinese control boxes are of mediocre quality to say the least.
One has to dive in the e-stim topic a little bit more in order to achieve the best results.
But once one have done this the experience will be out of this world :-)
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@doublevr just curious, why not simply integrate buttplug.io or xtoys? Maybe you already do? I'm new here.
My partners and I have a huge variety of toys (including two DG Labs 2.0s that we like way more than our 2b estim btw) (and a realtouch, just so you I'm OG) and love that almost all of it supported by buttplug. Meanwhile, we didn't have any of the SLR toys so I factored in the purchase of a Kiiroo Keon (and waited for a big sale) to my subscription. Yal would have had my money months ago with wider support. As you can imagine, I'd be much happier using my motorbunny, tremblr, and coyote than a keon and an edge! Do yal really want to try to keep up with that level of degeneracy? Why not just let ol' qdot solve those problems for yal?
discerningspecialist that's not the right way to approach
otherwise we are connecting more devices to SLR making custom integrations. I don't think BTIO is anywhere near in quality
Are there any news in this topic?
I’ve ordered a Coyote 3.0 in February and am awaiting its arrival soon.
I am also thinking about xtoys and am wondering whether it would be great to combine SLR with it
MakeMeFeelIt We are awaiting for Coyote 3.0 to arrive to our office as well
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What's the latest with eStim integration on SLR?
I was told Coyote V3 is shipping now.
Update: we have gotten Coyote 3.0 on our hands and will be looking into integrating it during summer months. Will keep you updated with more, once I have info.