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sportclimber Exactly. I think the people who fight for their own preference to be the only option are pretty short-sighted. It hurts the overall market. Even in POV there are different preferences that some like and some don't. For example in cowgirl position, some viewers like a girl with large headlights to be right on the cam, to simulate having the tits in their face; While on the other hand, some viewers like the girl to not be right on the cam, so you can better see her and her tits.

I've noticed that when suggestions like these are made, there are a good number of those who like POV come around and get very tribal and view it as an attack. It's very short-sighted (and dumb). The suggestion isn't to have non-POV over POV. The suggestion is to add a camera angle (or more), and have another version of the scene available for enjoyment of other viewers. Speaking for myself, there are many scenes with a hot girl and action, but I end-up not enjoying because I don't like the camera angles. This is an opportunity to take one scene and broaden its appeal.

    Niteflyte In the old days, Reality Lovers released a couple of videos in POV and voyeur versions. If my memory serves me right, these videos were shot separately. I can only guess but probably the voyeur versions were less popular and so they stopped doing them after a while.

        I just had a great idea with all the new IA app out there.
        If we could customize some of the word a girl will say in a scene, example: the girl say 28 time a generic male name in a scene.
        You just enter your name and she will say your name instead, there is already some app to copy voice with sample and to move lips on a video to match the word.

          Niteflyte oh, perhaps I misunderstood, my apologies. I have no issue with them doing a separate non-pov version for those who want that. They’d have to film it twice though wouldn’t they as I assume you wouldn’t want to see the VR rig when watching the voyeur version. Would they then have to pay the talent twice? Would the guy need to cum twice? Could be tricky logistically to do two versions of the same scene.

          The other option maybe is to do scenes with multiple male performers so you get some POV fucking when you’re fucking the girl but then also get to watch the other male performer(s) take a turn too.

              framzess I just had a great idea with all the new IA app out there.
              If we could customize some of the word a girl will say in a scene, example: the girl say 28 time a generic male name in a scene.
              You just enter your name and she will say your name instead, there is already some app to copy voice with sample and to move lips on a video to match the word.

              This is actually a pretty great idea if this is possible - being able to have your own name inserted in a video so that the actress keeps saying your name directly would be pretty surreal

              I think thats the big draw and reason why camgirl sites are so popular as they they can call out your name which really engages you alot more and makes you feel much more than just a passive bystander

                SchnuppiLilac Niteflyte In the old days, Reality Lovers released a couple of videos in POV and voyeur versions. If my memory serves me right, these videos were shot separately. I can only guess but probably the voyeur versions were less popular and so they stopped doing them after a while.

                I personally was a big fan of those (and still am big fan of voyeur/BTS style scenes)

                I think it could have just been done a bit better and would look much more amazing with current and next gen cameras nowadays

                You simply cant get those amazing voyeur body views and angles in POV that you can see in voyeur/non-POV (or even proper closeups alone)

                Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

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                    SchnuppiLilac Thanks for the intel! Yes, I've seen a couple other studios do this (Pervrt comes to mind). I'm sure the non-POV will be less popular than POV, but it still adds content and variety, and I think that is what viewers are looking for. If you've ever seen some of the studios exploring non-POV content, the comments are passionate that some enjoy the experimentation and variety. I also think that the market for non-POV would grow as more people get a chance to view that kind of content. Speaking for myself, if there was a studio that had a lot of content and was mostly non-POV, I'd pay for a separate membership (even tho I'd prefer they just join SLR).

                        petermc No worries my friend, and those are some good thoughts/suggestions. I'm sure there is more than one way to tackle this. For example, if they are filming the POV, I'd be happy if there was a camera 5 feet to the side, out of view of the POV camera, but showing the 'voyeur' view. As for the cumshot scene, I love these in non-POV, and would hope this could be done the same way - with the non-POV camera to the side out of view, but I'd still be happy if they did the money shot in POV only.

                        I'm also sure there are other challenges we're not even aware of, as non-producers, but you make a good suggestion in that if you already have a girl booked and a scene setup - why not do extra filming for more content? I'm sure that would involve money/profit considerations, weighing the extra cost versus the extra profit from non-POV viewing. And I also enjoy POV and I certainly don't want to ruin that for those who really prefer POV, but speaking for myself I prefer non-POV so much, and damn I wish there were more of that kind of content, especially with the higher quality producers and girls.

                        cheers

                            RealcumberScripts

                            You simply cant get those amazing voyeur body views and angles in POV that you can see in voyeur/non-POV (or even proper closeups alone)

                            Being able to switch on the fly between pov and voyeur in the middle of the same scene would be pretty amazing and hopefully possible in the near future

                            THIS!!!!!!!

                              Niteflyte I am definitely in favor of variety and non-POV along with POV content. I remember many non-POV lesbian scenes that were really great (e.g. from SinsVR) and I am also enjoying solo scenes or the videos of KinkyGirlsBerlin which have a significant share of non-POV.

                                have a camera outside the window hiding in the bushes and another in a closet where we can see the Guy outside looking in on the action and the guy outside can see the guybin the closet watching lol 😂

                                  Bucket619 I can't remember what scene it was but they the had the cam outside next to a window peeping in on a couple having sex.

                                  Eventually you made your way in cuz the guy took off, and the female was like hurry up and get in before he sees you. And of course they fucked. Lol

                                  Damn, now im curious what scene that was. 🤔

                                      Niteflyte it’s not so much of a problem to keep the non-pov camera out of shot. Like you say, just have it to the side out of shot. The issue I was talking about is the reverse way around. That being, if you’re watching through the non-pov cameras, you’ll see the dude with a big VR camera rig around him while he’s fucking the girl which I’m guessing most wouldn’t want. Something like this.