Suggest background composition themes for Passthrough videos

SchnuppiLilac

Sandi_SLR Thanks. So I understand that scale is not an issue. But how about positioning? In the examples above, there is a room with a bed that works well for the laying CG. But if the scene changes to a standing BJ, you would need a completely different background, like a floor viewed from above. How would this work?

Sandi_SLR

SchnuppiLilac You will get all the transform sliders, just like you have them for the video dome.
So its up to you to rotate it to fit.

To be clear, you would need a 360 stereo BG to rotate it freely and not see the edge.

metichemsi

SchnuppiLilac @Sandi_SLR
This is something I am also very curious how they will develop even with all the transform sliders they plan to give us, it will still require pausing the video and adjusting each time the scene changes. Hopefully they implement some sort of tag system that can "remember" all of the modifiers throughout the entire scene so you can theoretically scrub through the scene at first, setup the modifiers at each change and then restart the video and have it done all automatically for you.
Even better, it would be cool if they could incorporate meta data into their videos that would automatically make all these changes for you since they will all be the same. Meaning if all 360 backgrounds are rendered from the same point then they would know exactly how to modify them for each sex position change in all of their scenes for us. Again, that would require more work from their part, so I doubt that will happen, but it could be done.

I can also render all these backgrounds in 360 stereo but I cant test any of that functionality because it doesn't exist on their app yet but once this gets rolled out I plan on making these into 360. These current tests that I'm doing and sharing screenshots for are to manually key on a video editor and render out, I did 20 second clips for each background and they look amazing, I just have to change the camera height a little on the last two.

All very exciting stuff

metichemsi

Sandi_SLR nice, when can we start testing this? Also, I would like to start rendering out some of these BG in 360 stereo but I have a quick question. Because the transform sliders will be used, in your opinion, what will be the best point to originate the render from? Because renders, just like video will always have superior quality closer to the sensor, anything originally further away will always have less fidelity. Would you recommend starting the render a few feet above the ground, lower to the ground? Just thinking out loud as I'm writing this, what would give the best balance or most usable sweet spot taking into account all of the expected transformations on any given scene.

Thanks

Sandi_SLR

metichemsi Yes we are planning exactly this, you will be able to have unique settings per timetag (missionary, doggy, anal...). This should cover most of it, since usually 1 timetag means 1 camera position/angle.

We will also add an option to export this settings, so you or any user can prepare it and share with others to enjoy.

Here is a quick preview of how the custom scene option will look:

If you have any questions or ideas, let me know.

Sandi_SLR

metichemsi When the feature is released, just render 5 examples at different heights and test how they work 🙂

metichemsi

Sandi_SLR this is great, thanks for sharing that, sounds like you guys have most of the bases covered then.

One quick question, I dont think it will matter, but will this work on both fisheye and equirectangular passthrough videos the same way? I'm thinking it wont matter but just wanted to make sure since all your content is still in fisheye.

Thanks!

advtim23

Sandi_SLR Is this still in development?

metichemsi

metaverse Thanks! It's been a nightmare trying to learn how to do this the past couple of days but the results seem very promising. Also, since @Sandi_SLR clarified that the actual backgrounds for this implementation will need to be 360, hopefully that wont be mono, but full stereo support, I plan on rendering these in 360 as well.

Also, by the sound of that, people who have any type of 180 or 360 camera should be very excited by this. I know I plan on using my 180 and 360 cameras to also get some 360 shots of my bedroom and home locations soon that I will be able to drop in on these as well which will give us even better "passthrough" quality than any of the headsets out or that will be out in the next year or two and all without needing to upgrade your current headset.

Sandi_SLR

metichemsi You will be able to use any projection and setting the videos use (_SBS, _Fisheye...), I just mentioned 360 since if you have 180 dome and you have to change the pitch by a lot, you might see the edge of the dome.

metichemsi

Sandi_SLR makes sense, yea I didnt bother rendering these out in 360 because I cant even test that anyways. But that sounds good that you will accept any form.

Question: If you will accept any form, in my example I actually used a 200 dome just like the k2 pro footage. Will you allow multiple images to be programed into one scene as well? This would allow me to render out different angles and positions from different locations in the scene which could be very interesting instead of only recycling one 360 image during the entire scene with different modifiers for height and pitch adjustments.

Sandi_SLR

metichemsi you will be able to do this when we add the "settings per timetag" thing I mentioned a bit up. Then you can choose different scene for every timetag.

metichemsi

Sandi_SLR hallelujah! That sounds great, that way we have the option of simply using the same sphere for all of it of change up if we want to spice things up haha

Thanks, this feature sounds better and better already.

rerun119

metichemsi All of this sounds right up your alley. You are putting in the hard work so I expect some good backgrounds coming from you. I'm going to need your backgrounds cause I'm not going to make them.

Thanks in advance.

metichemsi

rerun119 I'm just excited to see them put this development forward. I have been playing with manually keying their videos for a while but I sold my k2 pro some time ago and back when I owned it I never thought about going out and recording custom clips for backgrounds so they would match perfectly with their footage but now unreal has us covered haha

doublevr

metichemsi We can get you K2 or similar whenever you need it 👍️

metichemsi

doublevr Thanks, once your app supports a second full resolution video as a background perhaps it will be worth exploring, for now it seems you will start to only support images, which I really want to further explore with unreal and CGI using 360 domes with all those sliders and controls your team has shared.

All very exciting and thanks for all the feedback and support. Keep us posted once we can start testing out these custom backgrounds

metaverse

Here's a test sample
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cgi-background-test-alpha-passthrough-35337

SchnuppiLilac

metaverse Must be good, even the buildings in the neighborhood liked it 😃

metichemsi

metaverse Very nice, I had no idea this labs channel even existed haha Sweet, thanks for sharing!

Niteflyte

There is one studio on here (can't remember off top of my head) that does Latina videos with a river/rainforest in the background. Someone must live in Central America with an awesome view. The background alone is worth the price of admission.

I'd love to have interesting backgrounds of any type. Off the top of my head, candles, rooftop lounges, waterfall, mansion rooms, spaceship or another planet...

doublevr

Niteflyte can you please find it, would be really appreciated

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