• Feature Request

  • Please implement a better and more sophisticated rating system

I think your current simple "likes"-based rating system for scenes is pretty lackluster and doesn't give you any valuable information about what your customers actually like about a certain scene or what they don't really like.

I suggest that you implement a more sophisticated rating system in which people can actually voice their opinion on inidividual cast members (especially important for your many multi-girl scenes imo) and stuff like storyline, chemistry, angles, location/settting, the sex (of course) etc.

Vixen media has a new system like that and I think it's pretty good. Have a look for yourself:


How about implementing a similar or even the same system for SLRO scenes or scenes on SLR in general?

It would give people valuable information about various aspects of a scene and how others rated these ascepts and it would at least make discussions like this one a lot less arbitrary... 😉

    agreed 👍🏻 or people can opt for the simple Thumbs up if they dont want to answer all those 🙂

      Bucket619 I think a simple 10 star rating (without the more in depth options) is still a whole lot better than a likes system, even for those with little time and interest.

      But yeah, I agree that splitting it up in a simple 10 star rating for the overal scene and more detailed questions and ratings for those who want to give more feedback would be best. No need to answer the detailed questions if you don't want to. 🙂

        I'm a stats nerd and have a Google sheet with ratings in different categories for every movie I watch, game I play, etc.

        Naturally I'd love to see something like this since it would account for scenes that have a favorite performer of mine but a dull setup or bad angles or whatever.

        Interesting idea. I’ll give it a like.

        Looks like a lot of work to leave feedback though! 😉

          bacula8630
          Nah, it's voluntary and it only takes you like 20 to 30 seconds. And like discussed above, a two-layer system would be cool, so a simply one click rating for those with VERY little time and a more detailed one for those who want to give proper feedback. 😉

            LordCrash Definitely agree that a more sophisticated feedback system would be good! Having to give 9 different scores per video might be too much for many users though. I know this would deter me from rating videos altogether.

            We want the user experience to be as seamless as possible. And one way we can achieve this is to nest the additional feedback options, which can be easily done by implementing the far overdue and much demanded hide feature.

            Make it easy for users to hide scenes/studios/performers from within the app, then allow users to provide optional additional feedback through checkboxes.

            Here's a rough example of what you could do:

            Scenario 1: User doesn't like the scene
            1) User presses an easily accessible hide video button
            2) Show the following message with the following checkboxes:
            "This video is now hidden from your feed. How can we improve the scene?"
            [ ] Different casting
            [ ] Better camera angles
            [ ] Better positions
            [ ] Better storyline
            [ ] Other: ___________

            Scenario 2: User doesn't like the studio
            1) User presses the hide studio button
            2) "This studio is now hidden from your feed. What could this studio change to suit your tastes?"
            [ ] Different casting
            [ ] Better camera quality
            [ ] Better sex positions
            [ ] Better storyline etc etc

            This way, users can easily provide additional feedback without having to think of multiple scores for each video. It also provides studios and directors with measurable feedback, e.g. 300 users chose to hide your studio because of your camera quality. 500 users hid this video because of your camera angles. They can then use this to improve.

                i think this is a great suggestion. it happens frequently that a scene has great girls and but the overall scene is let down by some other factor(s) like the location or camera angles or a male performer or a the chemistry between girls or the video quality or lighting or something else. any feedback on this stuff just gets lost in the comments and the same mistakes end up being repeated. a rating system like vixens would enable slr to gather much better insights as to what works and what doesnt.

                  dango789
                  That's a totally different system. I don't want to hide anything. I just want to provide better and more sophisticated feedback. And I don't only want to give feedback if I don't like a video but also when I like it very much. And I want that this feedback is visible to everyone, not only the studio. That's exactly the opposite of transparency and 100% not what I want with this thread.

                      spacepirate2 any feedback on this stuff just gets lost in the comments and the same mistakes end up being repeated. a rating system like vixens would enable slr to gather much better insights as to what could be improved.

                      It doesn't only get lost, only very few people write comments in general and most often only people who are not satisfied. Having a few negative comments give actually zero insight whether there are really issues in a scene for the majority of people watching it. A sophisticated but still very easy to use rating system is imho a much better system to gather both negative and positive feedback from users than any comment section or forum could ever do. The really dedicated people could of course still write extensive reviews about their opinions on a scene, it's only additional feedback. 😉

                        LordCrash Right now, I average around 10-20 videos per day. I give feedback on every single video by liking or hiding it.

                        If I had to give multiple scores per video, I'd probably need to give 100 scores per day. I'd stop reviewing videos altogether. I suspect many users would do the same.

                            dango789 no one would be pointing a gun at your head to give 100 scores per day 🤷‍♂️

                            i dont think anyone said anything about removing the ability to like or hide videos either

                              dango789 We already talked about that above, It should be a voluntary option. Has nothing to do with your wish to hide stuff though, completely different topic for another thread.

                              Also I don't really think that the majority of people here watches 10-20 videos each day. 😉

                                  LordCrash If I can still just give a simple like without having to give all the scores, and it doesn't clutter up my UI then I'm all in support for it 🙂

                                    LordCrash last time we had it done years ago it wasn't really good. Some random numbers compared to factual data. Likes seems to be the best overall indicator

                                        doublevr
                                        Best overall indicator for what exactly? Seriously, there is ZERO valuable information to gain from a simple likes system. The only thing you can say based on that system is "Scene A was overall better perceived than scene B". But you can't say why that is the case. And the why is the important bit for further business decisons. Were the models well received? You don't know. Did people like the angles? You don't know. Was the setting great? You don't know. A scene could receive very little likes because it has technical difficulties although the huge majority of watchers like the models. Zero chance to make such differentation in a simple likes system. You could easily think that the models weren't well perceived while in reality there were a lot of different reasons for that.

                                        Likes are the most random numbers compard to factual data...

                                            LordCrash I have a marketing background - you'll be surprised how much insight can be derived from a simple like. That's why it's one of the primary metrics on Facebook/Instagram/YouTube etc. Top content creators are able to use likes to gauge what content their audience prefers and adjust appropriately.

                                            You're right that there is a myriad of different reasons why people might like a scene, but when we analyse many different videos, we can pretty confidently isolate the effect of an individual performer/director/studio.

                                            Let's take Agatha Vega as an example, who was cast in the top performing non-harem video in the past year. We want to determine whether she is a popular casting choice, or if the video mainly succeeded due to other factors.

                                            To achieve this, we can analyse her videos from other studios. How well did her videos perform compared to other videos by the same studio, released around the same time? This would minimise any changes in camera tech, directors etc.

                                            1) VR Edging

                                            2) VR Solos

                                            3) iStripper

                                            Conclusion
                                            While there is a little variation between studios (perhaps some videos weren't shot well etc), on the whole, videos featuring Agatha Vega consistently perform very well compared to other videos by the same studio, released around the same time.

                                            We can use this same technique for other performers, or even types of performers (e.g. teens vs milfs, blondes vs redheads, natural vs performers with plastic surgery). We can also use this to isolate different settings, videos featuring certain camera angles etc.

                                            One huge advantage of having a simple one-click feedback system is that you will get a lot more responses. And a larger sample size means more reliable data.

                                                dango789 This is something that I and others on the team have talked about before here in the forum many times, but it's not info that's observable to users, so I can also totally see where some folks are coming from when they complain about the "like" button being seemingly the only metric.

                                                Except that we have a lot of data when it comes to scene performance, and I mean...a LOT of data. I can't overstate how much of a data-driven company SLR is. And the correlation between "Likes" and every other metric is direct: a scene with more likes will (on average) have more downloads, more time streamed, etc. etc. etc.

                                                I've seen people make great points about "likes" just being a tool to remind them to check out a video later, or that likes are given just based on nothing else but a first impression of the scene or based on nothing but the performers/cast, or etc. etc. etc. And that all certainly factors in, but it doesn't change the data. And the data says quantity of likes = overall popularity of a scene.

                                                Not saying likes = actual success of a scene. That's a lot harder to gauge. Cost of the scene, new subscribers brought in, and a hundred other factors.