Alicia Williams
Booked for this month (with @simsensemedia)
Awesome! It's about time we had a new scene with the gorgeous Alicia. Please tell me it isn't passthrough though?
tallbloke35 There's a very good chance it will be Passthrough, but confirming the plan and will report back.
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justsomedude101 There's a very good chance it will be Passthrough
I know some guys like the passthrough scenes. Unfortunately, I’m not one of them.
And the recent passthrough scenes with girls like Addie Addison or Molly Little feel like a waste to me.
I will usually check them out. If it’s a performer I like. But I have yet to watch any passthrough scene more than once.
Take that scene with Serena Salgot. She’s new to me. And is beautiful. I wish she had a normal VR scene first. To introduce herself to everyone. Then maybe a passthrough scene later. When it’s not her only VR scene.
If you guys happen to book Melanie Marie. I hope her debut scene with you guys isn’t a passthrough scene. Not just because I’m not a fan of them.
I feel shooting passthrough scenes is the most impersonal type of VR shoot. Even for seasoned VR veterans. If it’s a new starlet’s first and only experience shooting VR. How many are going to be clamoring to come back and shoot more VR scenes?
Anyways, just my opinion.
bacula8630 Totally understand what you're saying, but to be blunt this will always be an ongoing challenge for folks who aren't into/don't like/can't use the Passthrough feature. And I suspect with the release of the Quest 3 (and other future headsets), this number will only go down as higher-quality cameras are introduced and as we continue to improve on our Passthrough shoots.
To give you (and everyone) a bit of insight: we have one team (SimsenseMedia) that has the setup to shoot Passthrough content currently, and Passthrough content has been hugely successful/popular (with a handful of exceptions) - that can't really be overstated. Yes, there are plenty of users that do NOT like it, but just take a look at the releases and it's very clear that an absolute TON do, and passionately so (and I'm not just talking about inevitable comment wars...).
And so - we shoot Passthrough content with models who are based in Miami (where a LOT of new talent happens to live, hence the many new faces) or who travel there as oftentimes happens, particularly when it comes to newer performers.
But we continue to ALSO shoot a ton of non-Passthrough (aka standard) content: content of performers who have been highly requested like multiple Layla Jenner/Molly Little scenes, a veritable smorgasbord of Euro performers, 3somes & 4somes & 11-girl harem scenes, etc. etc. etc.
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justsomedude101 This is a real question before some people think otherwise
I can tell PT is going to be more and more of SLR content. Some people like it and it is cheap to make. The thing is that someone like me that can't even watch it with my headset. See all these beautiful girls that I want to see but it's like dangling and candy bar in your face and then watching someone else eat it.
I thought SLR was going to put them in 2 different studio names. Like SLRJav. I think you did for a second and then stopped. I'm still here for what I came for in the first place. Very well made beautiful looking stories that are immersive. Like you made before PT came along. SLR is down to one and a half directors of that kind of content. Nash of course and SimsenseMedia makes some really good ones if he is allowed to instead of PT. It looking like SimsenseMedia is going to be doing less and less of that with all the PT work now.
Can we get the different directors on a schedule? We get 2 weeks of Mack then a couple PT then maybe 2 weeks of Nash. If I couldn't see PT at all that really would help with all the negative feeling. Same with different directors that have different idea of what VR porn is. SLR is the only studio that doesn't have a brand of what I am signing up for. Different directors make wildly different porn.
If we could just know that we would get a Nash scene or Simsense non PT on a certain day. Like if every Tuesday and Friday was a normal scene then I could just block out all the other stuff that SLR is doing.
As a side note I think SLR should change who shoots the PT scenes and let Simsense shoot regular since he was getting good at it. I sure none of this will happen but I thought I would just let SLR know some people's frustrations.
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justsomedude101 Passthrough content has been hugely successful/popular
Over the past 6 months, regular SLRO videos (excluding censored JAV experiments and harems) have averaged approximately 3.1k likes each. In the same time period, passthrough SLRO videos have averaged approximately 2.3k likes each (Molly Little and Serena Hill skewed this average a lot - without them, PT averages 1.8k likes each).
I wouldn't call that hugely sucessful or popular. I really don't understand why SLR is pushing this so hard unless it is the reduced set cost. This is especially frustrating when I feel like it annoys more people than it pleases (though I obviously don't have the data to prove that).
Wall of text incoming. Hold onto your butts
Will65 The longer it's been since a scene's release, the more likes/favorites it will have. Passthrough releases were few and far between until 2-3 months ago, so of course looking back at the 6-month trend "non-Passthrough" scenes could and likely would have more average likes (I didn't fact check you on this). Their average age would be older, by up to 2x.
Try doing the same exercise but for, say the last 3 months instead (the timeframe in which Passthrough releases have been a regular thing). The numbers might look quite different.
...also we have the data lol
Will65 I really don't understand why SLR is pushing this so hard unless it is the reduced set cost.
We shoot all sorts of wildly expensive scenes, all the time. A reduced cost might be a natural side effect (and a nice one for sure), but if that were the sole intent there would be much easier ways to save money...I mean, NOT shooting Passthrough and releasing 3 standard scenes per week would make even more sense than 3 standard and 1 Passthrough like we currently tend to do if it were all about the money, no?
rerun119 SLR is the only studio that doesn't have a brand of what I am signing up for. Different directors make wildly different porn.
I don't want to sound like I'm minimizing your complaint, but this is exactly what SLR and SLR Originals has always been: different production teams shooting different styles of content in different ways. If you look way back at the earliest SLRO scenes, this is SUPER evident, though over time things gradually became a bit less so (though each of the teams, including VRFanservice, still shot very different styles imho). I don't anticipate that we will ever try to make all the teams shoot with the same specific style in mind, aside from obviously wanting their individual styles to be the best they can be.
rerun119 As a side note I think SLR should change who shoots the PT scenes and let Simsense shoot regular since he was getting good at it. I sure none of this will happen but I thought I would just let SLR know some people's frustrations.
I hear you, but I'm assuming you want the "no-bullshit" answer so I won't sugar-coat it: Simsensemedia's PT scenes are doing extremely well, so why would we aka SLR (or why would he for that matter) want to change that? It's obviously a rhetorical question, but it's the truth. He has the setup and knowledge on how to do PT content, has released a lot of wildly successful scenes of PT content, enjoys shooting PT, etc. etc. etc. And to be clear I'm not saying he won't still shoot standard content like he's done in the past, just trying to make a general point.
rerun119 If I couldn't see PT at all that really would help with all the negative feeling.
We don't plan to separate out the studios again like we tested before, but I can raise the question of a Passthrough toggle of some sort. I think the chance is slim tbh, but can still ask.
Appreciate the reply and insight.
I understand from a business stand point why you guys are continuing to do them.
If possible, I think a shooting a “standard” VR scene with new starlets first would be preferable. Especially since SLR’s Alpha technology can sort of make those scenes pass through anyway (Although, I don’t know how good it works since I don’t use it.)
Anyways, Thanks for reading.
justsomedude101 Thank you for the answers. The one thing I don't understand is the not being able to hide PT content. We can hide all the other studios that we don't like. Someone suggested hiding all the studios that make all the combo SLR scenes. IMO they were everywhere after awhile. I hide all off them and it looks a lot better now. I mean I can't watch them unless SLR thinks i'm going to watch a gray room with a girl in it. That way I don't see them littering all over the SLR page. Because (I like this saying "no-bullshit") answer. It really feels like you guys made great immersive scenes and got us all here. I bought a lifetime membership because of it. Then just moved on to the next thing to bring in people different people (which I understand) BUT forgot about all of us that came here 2 years ago. I already know the answer "we still make those videos" but it is different. Before when a new video has coming out I know it was going to be a really good immersive scene (with a script). Now if it isn't PT then I have to look at the picture and guess who the director is and a lot of times I think nope, nope, nope. It wasn't like that when I bought a lifetime. So if I could hide the directors and PT that I don't like then it would look like it use to.
I'm not directing this at you. I know you probably can't change it. I'm just trying to tell SLR again why the frustration is here.
justsomedude101 Also since you guys have the numbers. From looking at the last few months, it looks like Nash's numbers are bigger the than anything else. Plus VRFanservice's Modern Relationship is going to be the biggert scene of all time after awhile. Point being Please don't forget about your bread and butter. With VRfanservice gone and Simsense going to less and less normal videos. We are down to one director who makes those kind of scenes.
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rerun119 It really feels like you guys made great immersive scenes and got us all here. I bought a lifetime membership because of it. Then just moved on to the next thing to bring in people different people (which I understand) BUT forgot about all of us that came here 2 years ago.
This is exactly how I feel. It feels like a bait and switch, honestly. Same goes for the arguments I keep seeing repeated:
- Why can't you just let other people have what they want?
Well, because I chose a site because it offerred what I wanted, not what other people want. And when it did offer what I want, but now offers what other people want, I'm unhappy.
- There are plenty of videos that you like.
Yes, but I've seen them already. I am paying for new content that I like, and now there is less of that.
justsomedude101 SLR is the only studio that doesn't have a brand of what I am signing up for. Different directors make wildly different porn.
I don't want to sound like I'm minimizing your complaint, but this is exactly what SLR and SLR Originals has always been: different production teams shooting different styles of content in different ways.
Yes, but it's more than just style. Lately, we have several different teams that shoot with wildly different QUALITY. Poor lighting, camera angles, editing, and direction are not issues of style. There often doesn't seem to be a standard, such that a director can do what they want within certain boundaries, but each video must conatin 'x' and not contain "y".
justsomedude101 Try doing the same exercise but for, say the last 3 months instead (the timeframe in which Passthrough releases have been a regular thing). The numbers might look quite different.
Over the last 3 months (excluding anything less than 1 week old and censored JAV), both PT and standard SLRO average 2.6k likes each. Again, though, Molly Little and Serena Hill skew this a lot - PT without them averages 2k likes. I would argue that either of those actress' scenes would have gotten more likes in standard format than they did in PT. While the numbers did change, I still don't think PT is doing "extremely well". It seems about the same as others, with the caveat that it excludes a fair amount of users from even watching them, may drag the numbers down for popular actresses, and causes a fair amount of frustration for people who cannot enjoy them at all.
The juice doen't seem like it's worth the squeeze, imho.
I do appreciate your response.
rerun119 I was going to suggest to hide all from passthrough category:
https://www.sexlikereal.com/tags/passthrough-ar-porn
But it has some scenes that aren't passthrough, not too many though
@justsomedude101 if you could remove the tag 'Passthrough AR' from a couple vids this would be a fix
My 2 cents: I don't like PT yet, with my Q2 it is not a great experience and the perspective often doesn't mimic real life
I definitely see its potential though, color/depth PT will be default feature in future headsets
Shoot was unfortunately canceled. Hopefully another time
Another anal creampie scene with her would be the best!
Booked for AR/Passthrough w/ @simsensemedia once again, fingers crossed everything goes through this time!