Why don't Nash scenes get priority scripts?

LordCrash

rerun119 @doublevr is in a hurry to get a new better Handy out early next year.

I don't agree that Alex is the godfather of SLR scenes (way too many issues lately and VRfanservice has still done the best VR scene ever for SLR....) but I agree that it's kind of stupid to work on a haptics device without offering instant scripts for all relevant scenes (=all SLRO scenes and more)...

alexnash

LordCrash Thank you for your honest opinion. We all do our best to bring great content for SLRO, I think it's awesome to have variety of different styles and approaches to shot scenes for you guys. Vrfanservice has it's own approach and I do have my own. I've produced more scenes for SLRO and I am not saying all of them are great but I do keep a consistent good quality level for most of them and with every scene I try my best to make it for your experience. I think we shouldn't even start comparing and what is really important that we both put a lot of hard work and dedication to our craft so you guys can enjoy great content.

Btw would like your feedback - what issues and what exact scenes you are talking about in my recent releases? And now I am also very curious what are your favorite SLRO scenes?🧐

RealcumberScripts

I think I've mentioned in previous threads, but I'll shed some further light since you made a new topic
(really the main thing is simply the extraordinarily longer scene length run-times):

Scripts are difficult to do and do good, but Day one scripts are extremely difficult to complete and keep up - no other studio/company out there does them or can offer them in any capacity, as far as I know
I believe I'm the only one that has been doing them and handling them consistently and in high consistent quality for many years now
SLR Originals, especially @alexnash scenes, are usually really really long (_most of the ones you listed are ~ 1hr 30 min long) so take significantly more time and effort, and understandably intimidate many, and are exhausting to work on (physically and mentally), but this would magnify even more if they were needed to be time sensitive
day one scripts don't overall seem to make much significant difference earnings wise once released compared to released later on when ready, especially factoring in the additional considerable pressure and effort required for day one scripts (if they were I would for sure do them all the time)
most of SLR Originals, including the ones you listed are 2-3x longer action packed than standard non SLR Originals scenes (~ 45min), and 3-5x longer than VREdging scenes (~ 25-30min). SLR JAV ones have usually been less than ~ 45min long with much more spread out action
Video edits are sometimes made and release dates seem to keep changing on backend for SLR Originals - some scenes that I've already scripted ready for release date suddenly get pushed back, and some new scenes get released with little to no notice
So no matter what, those surprise scenes will be impossible to get day one scripts - unless we delay scenes getting released only when the script is ready, but I recall many users rather wanted to scene to drop asap instead which is understandable as toy users still make up a relatively small part of SLR's customer base

I personally always hoped that users would see day 1 scripts more as a bonus and pleasant surprise, rather than a standard requisite

The problem of added pressure for more day one scripts, especially really long ones, is that it will inadvertently make scripting less enjoyable and more work and pressure focused, and more likely to cause scripter burn out, and feel their hobby has truly evolved into only monotonous grinding clock work

The reason why I scripted for so long was because I maintained the passion and enjoyment of it and it was always motivated by your guys positive support

The really long scenes really are tough, yet I've done a ton of them, and take them on still (like the recent 3 harem ~ 2 hour scenes) because I know you guys dont want to miss out enjoying those (I could have made likely a dozen+ other scripts for the time it took me just for those 3 scenes alone)

If SLR Original scenes were under the 1 hour length, I would have no problem pumping these scripts out for you day one or very close, even with sudden schedule changes

In the meantime I will keep doing my best, working hard for you guys, to ensure you guys keep getting the best quality experiences that you paid for and that is worth paying for, instead of doing any dis-servicing to you by sacrificing quality for rushed work

All that said, thanks for letting me know which ones you prefer prioritized
I actually have most of ones in your list already in progress and for some time already, just thanks for your patience as I power through finishing them off (Coming soon section is just still broken and awaiting update):

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/raw-taboo-unusual-trio-31812
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/her-first-time-anal-31862
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/stepmom-lindsay-lee-craves-double-up-32484
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/raw-taboo-anal-virgin-32683
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/sharing-my-neighbors-massive-cock-32838

alexnash

RealcumberScripts Thank you man for all your hard work appreciate! 🌟🙏

LordCrash

RealcumberScripts I personally always hoped that users would see day 1 scripts more as a bonus and pleasant surprise, rather than a standard requisite

Dude, that's not up on you but on SLR. 😉

It's @doublevr who tells people that Handy etc. was amazing and brought VR porn to a whole different level while he's not able to deliver the scripts needed for that stuff on a regular basis.

rerun119

RealcumberScripts I hope you understand that this is not directed at you. Your work is amazing and because of it I'm addicted to it. It's directed at SLR in figuring out how to pay you more money to train people to make scripts like you. Or I have said it many times on here. To make a step-by-step training videos on youtube or somewhere else on how to start scripting. Because I tried to download everything to start and couldn't even get a program to start. The directions might sound like they are written out well but from my end it is very confusing to register (not tax purpose but something to do with the program) and all the other things it wanted me to do to get started.

Obviously before I had a Handy this wasn't an issue. If SLR wants everybody to buy their toy then there is going to be a lot more people like me asking the same questions. So it seems like that should be the first thing to fix before the toy comes out.

Am I wrong in thinking that if a video is longer and people watch for a longer time because of it that the scripter gets more money for the watch time?

Again @RealcumberScripts this is not about your hard work. SLR is aways asking how they can improve and is always trying to make the next great thing. I thing scripts are that thing but SLR seems to be focusing on something new before they even finished getting the scripts polished. It's like they think we have scripts and nobody else does so thats good enough and on to the next thing.

I'm just one guy trying to steer the money going into SLR into what I think is the best investment for me.

Will65

RealcumberScripts no other studio/company out there does them or can offer them in any capacity

clzk3 i think EVERY srloriginals should get priority, since we all are having this discussion on srl forum not on vredging or deepinsex websites.

To me, this is the heart of the same-day script disconnect. It is hard for us to accept that same-day scripts for SLRO are impossible when we see VREdging and other second-tier studios shooting in 2880p get every. single. release dropped with a same-day script - and we can see that @RealcumberScripts does most of them. From the user's perspective, it seems like it certainly is possible - but it is not being prioritized by someone with the means to make it happen (i.e., management). Paying SLR for an SLR scripts subscription and seeing 2nd-tier studios get scripts while SLR Originals sit unscripted for long periods of time (or even forever) is frustrating, especially when the scripter seems to be at least tacitly an employee of SLR.

I don't think the scripters are the problem, fom the conversations I have had with them. The other studios that get same-day drops have worked with and compensated the scripters to make sure that happens. I'm not sure why SLRO hasn't secured a similar deal. It would seem like a simple matter for @doublevr to decree that SLRO get scripted first, even if other things have to wait, and to compensate the scripters in a a way that makes that happen. I don't really understand why that hasn't happenned, especially given his hype of the Handy and pursuit of an SLR-branded stroker. The company clearly sees scripts and interactive toys as an important selling point. Why not make sure your own in-house brand of vids gets the gold treatment in this area?

Several posters have also suggested that it might be SLROs workflow pipeline that is messing this up, and that seems at least plausible given how some of the errors we have seen (Alex's latest release comes immediately to mind). If so, smooting the pipeline should be given greater priority as well, given the additional headaches it would relieve. As @rerun119 noted, it does feel like this whole areea is getting the "good enough" treatment and folks get a bit dipleased when we see exploration into other areas when the ones we are interested in (or the ones that drive our subscription dollars) feel rough and unfinished.

A relevant example: Will you please provide an update on the request script button/vote counter that we've been promised? If the scripters are truly driven by market demands, this would help customers and scripters alike.

@RealcumberScripts : I'm just responding to the company. You are the god of scripting, an evangelist for all that I love. Thank you for all the owrk you do for us. I appreciate you.

alexnash

rerun119 Thank you for such a high praise! ✊ I love what I do and do it with passion and I put a lot of love, efforts into each scene/experience. 🌟

LordCrash

alexnash Don't get me wrong, most of your scenes are pretty good and I love that you usually do extended lesbian sections and girl-on-girl interaction in your BGG and BGGG scenes. I also like that you take your time in the scenes and there's something for everyone to enjoy in their with lots of different positions etc.

I think both you and VRfanservice are able to deliver great content for SLR and that's good for everyone, isn't it? Some healthy competition is a good thing imho, you know, without talking baldy about each other etc, but in a way that you always try to deliver the best content possible. And I think that both of you try to do that so no worries here.

What I personally dislike about many SLRO scenes is the "realistic" dim lighting and a lot of too close angles. I've talked about that in a different tread and we should maybe keep it there because I don't want to derail this thread.

Best SLR scene up to this day imho (and probably still one of the best VR scenes ever shot): https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/making-it-up-to-you-16390 😉

alexnash

LordCrash cool man, thanks for you honest opinion! That's obvious everybody have their own preferences: models, positions, lighting , etc, and their favorite scenes. good to know yours. Making up to you is a great scene no questions, one of the first scenes that's been shot with Melody Marks and she is spectacular there, innocent, fresh and motivated. It's impossible to cater to everybody taste of course but we try our best.

clzk3

i've been a member since late 2021 and watch vr only with scripts so i can only give my perspective of a main script user.
I dont think alexnash should get priority, i think EVERY srloriginals should get priority, since we all are having this discussion on srl forum not on vredging or deepinsex websites.
90% of scripts i bought/got with tokens are slroriginal scenes, the other 10% i had to go where i can not where i want.
As the way the gears turns i dont see how can every scene will be scripted. lets do a quick math:
lets make an assumption that every hour (using OFS point to point AI with an i7-10700 with a 4k fps file (wich is not ideal to script)) outputs 20min of rough draft, then modifying by hand, lets say it takes 4hours to output 30min of well done and tested script.
working 25hrs/week (3.5hrs every day or 5hrs 5times) would output 187.5mins of scripts, wich means if SLR releases 3 1hour movies a week, it would work if ALL the scripter does is SLR content. If SLR releases 1 of these movies as 2hours the scripter would have to work 35hrs/week meaning 5hours every day, wich i can understand the burnout situation.
im not even considering the backlog of older scenes that didnt get scripted.
With the tools we have now and few scripters i dont see a way to "rescue" old scenes other than try to buy scripts from scripters(as slr does), but we can maybe find a solution for future videos? maybe having scenes with more AI-script friendly positions? maybe less quality on scripts? maybe splitting the two hours scenes into 2? trust more scripters with SLR content?
In my perfect world every SLRO should have a day 1 script, for that to happen scripter(s) would have to get into the workflow pipeline of releases, for example a scene should be ready to release from the edit crew 1 week before the release date so the scripter could work properly.
Its hard to wait 3weeks looking at arabelle inviting giant tits for a script, but its harder to wait years for a scene that wasnt "good" or too time consuming because of the way it was shooted, or having no idea if the movie u liked will be or not.
In my opinion the way it is its good, but could be better, i think having all new slro scenes scripted isnt a farfetch dream if SLR is willing to make few changes and we could help them with constructive ideas rather than go comment "SCRUPT PLSS" in every scene.

LordCrash

clzk3 i think EVERY srloriginals should get priority

WORD

clzk3 In my perfect world every SLRO should have a day 1 script

WORD

I don't understand why there is so little time between shooting and releasing scenes for SLR. Studios like New Sensations shoot scenes now and release them months or even half a year later. Apparently they don't have any issues with this approach, works perfectly fine for them.

SLR could also just wait with their final releases until the scenes are scripted and scripts are available on day 1. That way scenes could also be better tested before release and video quality could be as good as possible on release day without the need to fix every 2nd or 3rd scene after release...

It's actually incredibly simple and costs pretty much nothing.

Does it really matter whether a certain scene is released today or in 2 weeks or in 2 months? The girls are just as hot then as they are now. And a bigger backlock of upcoming scenes is also much better if there is something like another pandemic etc...

AzgardCKJ

clzk3 i just want to support your words. I personally also only watch videos with scripts. The Handy was such a big upgrade to watching porn so that i rarely watch porn without it.

I can imagine how time consuming scripting is and the scripts of @RealcumberScripts has put on amazing work. You‘re the Goat and i hope you keep your passion doing it.

However i often get hyped about new upcoming scenes and I am already used to wait longer for scripted scenes. At least the „upcoming script sections“ keeps my hopes up when it works.
I can understand when great Scenes by external studios don‘t always get scripts.

However the scripts are the reason I always have yearly memberships for SLR. Therefore i hope and wish that all Studio productions of SLR would get scripts.
There are some older SLR Originals that do not have scripts and I assume from the heavy release schedule (please don’t change that 😃 )of new scenes there won’t be time to script the old scenes.

Personally I always wanted the Joanna Angel Original to be scripted just as an example and would be fine if you maybe make a cut and use AI Scripts for older scenes. I would appreciate that more than having no scripts at all 🙂

Natch

Alex Nash is the best by far, light years ahead of anyone. The problem is that in the last year, it seems that SLR has other priorities, things like passthrough, fetish, and other absurd distractions.

alexnash

Natch Thank you Natch! 🌟✊

alexnash

It's definitely a goal to eventually get every SLRO scene scripted, hopefully it can be accomplished soon. Thank you guys for being with us and contributing to VR community with your best ideas 🌟🙌

Evan_Redstar

Hey guys! We will try to fix this issue with upcoming section on the website and first day scripts aviability. We have nailed release schedule and quantity. Everything should be fine soon.

rerun119

Evan_Redstar That is music to my ears

doublevr

https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3872-opening-upcoming-videos-for-the-same-day-script

rerun119

AzgardCKJ I also now only watch scripted scenes. I will turn on the new SLR videos and skim through them to see if they look good. If one of them looks promising then I just log in everyday to see if it got scripted. It's just blind luck. I have been waiting for:

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/raw-taboo-unusual-trio-31812
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/her-first-time-anal-31862

These 2 have been in the coming soon section for months now. They look good plus a lot of others since then. Realcumber said he has been working on them in the past so I just keep hoping someday boom there they are.

I am losing faith that I'll ever see then because they are falling farther down the list everyday.

Also I have said it multiple times now that if SLR would put out a step by step how to, that I would give it a try. Every time I say that they just link the "step by step" thread on here. That is not what I mean by step by step. I mean a multi part video of how to script. Tips, tricks ext. I have tried to download the apps but I can't even get that to work so I guess I'm just suppose to figure it all out on they own.

Mutiny

rerun119 That is not what I mean by step by step. I mean a multi part video of how to script. Tips, tricks ext.

I know nothing about script making...it's like wizardry to me...but I think this is an important distinction and I've forwarded this along to the team.

Will65

rerun119 I am losing faith that I'll ever see then because they are falling farther down the list everyday.

This is not an illusion. I looked at scripting status of SLR Originals going back 11 months, and there has been a drop off in scripting recently. For example, each page of SLR Originals, sorted by date released has 32 videos per page. Look at these numbers:

Page 1 (today through 2 months ago): 13 scripted out of 32 = 40.6%
Page 2 (2 months ago through 5 months ago): 28 scripted out of 32 = 87.5%
Page 3 (5 months ago through 8 months ago): 21 scripted out of 32 = 65.6%
Page 4 (8 months ago through 11 months ago): 24 scripted out of 32 = 75%

None of the last 7 vids have been scripted going back 2 weeks. As @rerun119 noted, it is confusing why scenes like Freya Parker/Michelle Church, Laney Grey/Anna Claire Clouds, and Chanel Camryn/Mazy Meyers sit unscripted while grainy crap from TabooVR Porn and VREdging occupy your house scripters' time. These are exactly the type of scenes that used to get scripted same-day or very quickly. Now they languish. What changed? When will it be fixed?

Again: this is not throwing shade at the scripters! Instead, you should pay them enough such that making sure SLRO is a priority doesn't cause them a financial loss. The link you provided to the post above, advertising for more scripters, is not the point. If SLRO is the premiere, superior product that I am paying for with my sub dollars, then I want the premiere, superior scripter assigned to those vids. That means paying RealCumber whatever it takes to make that happen.

It feels sketchy that you don't seem to directly answer why that hasn't happened. It seem like it is in your power to make it happen today. Why has it not? I'm not saying that you must, but it would be nice to hear a reasoned explanation as to why it hasn't.

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