Heresphere is great in providing a lot of customizations, yet the UI is a bit too complicated.
DeoVR v HereSphere
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edited I have a few things to suggest, but to give accurate info I need to compare bsck to back.
The first thing I notice whenever I use DEO in my quest 2, after using heresphere for a while is that every single action/input in DEOVR takes much longer to take affect and requires several seconds of loading time. Usually about 4 seconds.
Search? 4 seconds loading time.
Next page? 4 seconds Loading time.
Select tag? 4 seconds Loading time.
Select studio? 4 seconds loading time.
Start playing video? 4 seconds loading time.
Finish playing video? 4 seconds loading time.
It feels like I'm spending just far too much time watching these loading dots dancing around in front of a black void instead of finding a porno to watch.
For me that's usually dozens of 4 seconds periods where my brain is momentarily switching from a variety of exciting visual stimulus on-screen to precisely none at all. And then back again.
On heresphere everything responds almost instantaneously. All stimulis all the time. No waiting. It's basically buttery smooth like a good user interface should be.
In heresphere the worst case scenario is maybe a slight delay between the first item to appear on screen and the last.
Also I can move pages forward or backwards with left or right on the control stick.
It wasn't until I started doing this that I realized how tedious it is to aim at the little button for the next/previous page
To me this increased responsiveness dramatically makes the interface more relaxing to use. To the point where DEO feels comparatively clunky boring and tedious.
Can I make a suggestion for deo player...
To "Drag video" you hold hand trigger and index trigger, can yall include the "yaw" with this function. So I can drag and yaw by holding both triggers....
On hs you can drag and yaw at the same time, this be good in pt cuz a few 
videos i had to use the yaw cuz the picture look slanted a Lil, and I had use the yaw slider and i thought well if i could drag and yaw at the same time I wouldn't be using the slider...
maybe I'll try putting yaw on one of the triggers...
Was just a thought tho 
Yup the biggest thing for me is image quality (looks better on HS, maybe it's better at adjusting the frame rate)
and being able to actually repostition the video using the triggers instead of having to click into the settings menu. It's really nice in HS when changing positions (if you want to do that), to just use the triggers to recenter yourself. I know most people stay in one position but it's way more immersive if you try and get your body aligned as closely with what the male model is doing in the video.
I think DEO is suppose to have multi layer buttons. On the xbox controller I can never get it to work. Has anybody been able to make multi layer buttons on an xbox controller? Since I can't get it to work there is not enough buttons for all the different direction settings. Which means I have to pull up the menu and look to the far left to change something. With HS it's all straight in front of you. Although I don't need to do that very often cause I can do it all with the controller.
Since SLR wants to be #1 streaming site then it shouldn't have dots all the time. I am afraid this is never going to change because of how the app is written. I have heard that the HS program is just written a lot better.
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Vrsumo2017 yes, the heresphere setup for aligning the picture is really intuitive.
Grab the trigger and orientate the quest controller as if you were holding the camera.
Simple. No menus or sliders needed on screen. No unterruptions.
You don't have to consciously think about it, coz it's just common sense.
Though one of the biggest issues with HS is that's it's TOO much control imo. There are so many settings/parameters you can mess around with but there's not much tutorial or explanation on what they actually even do. I've been trying to get the creator to simplify the design a bit...take away some of the options because 9/10 times you don't need to even use them and they kind of get in the way and make it more confusing than it has to be. DEO is much more user-friendly in that regard.
DEO also takes forever to boot up. HS when launched is loaded in like less than 5 seconds...for me DEO takes well over 10 seconds and sometimes it's been over 20. A small thing but enough of a difference to mention.
HS has no Passthrough settings at all though, so DEO clearly wins there as you guys are already integrating that into the app and trying to make it better and HS doesn't even have that capability at the moment.
Jacksonjdr94 You have it in Deo as well. Just hold both triggers and you be able to move around the picture.
metaverse doesnt work the same and the default binding isnt as convenient
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metaverse Just hold both triggers and you be able to move around the picture.
That's helpfull too, ive started using that more instead of the trigger for pitch, but it just for Side to side up and down, hs you can do that plus twirl the your wrist for the yaw, you have to use it to see what I mean.
On deo I'll push both triggers but sometimes it'll bring up the player menu, it's like you gotta hit the triggers just right to use the function.
And rarely do I have to use the yaw, so it's really not that big of a deal, but interesting how hs "trigger hold" works. And it does move smoothly like a camera
Hs has free demo with all functions if anyone else wanna use it.
Really that's all i think deo needs
That trigger thing we talking about
A lil Better sharpen
And more zooming % in the 6dof and be able to zoom in and out while it's on.
Which is called "motion" in hs
Edit: Oh and SMB SUPPORT!
All that other stuff, Tagging videos making Playlist...I don't need that, but that's just me.
Hurto11 Though one of the biggest issues with HS is that's it's TOO much control imo.
I just stick to the "basic controls" menu
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Incase no one knows this in hs if you visit a vr site it'll add all the videos from that site into your recent media, lol like you watched all them videos...just letting yall know incase you don't like to leave any evidence behind.
It can be cleared tho. 
Edit: and if your clearing recent streaming files make sure you're just clearing the recent list not deleting, think if u hit delete u might delete it off ur computer, I read somewheres some one say it doesn't work, but be cautious with clearing recent list. It'll ask you before you do anything.
Watching a presentation on deovr about deovr. Was great.
Imo deovr should be its own identity
Example, they say "deovr metaverse"
Just call it the deoVRse, yall know oreo cookie is calling their brand oreoverse, vive has vive verse.
"Deoverse" I like to do it with the VR tho, DeoVRse ....
Cool presentation tho, the deo touch was interesting.
So, in a laying cg position you'd actually feel weight on you? Ffs this going get crazy 
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Jacksonjdr94 Grab the trigger and orientate the quest controller as if you were holding the camera.
That's what it feels like, like moving a smooth camera.
5 days later
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Vrsumo2017 yes, the smoothness in heresphere's image alignment/centering is pretty satisfying and allows fine adjustment with ease
plus it allows yaw adjustment as was previously mentionedin this thread.
To me the easily adjustable yaw function is a huge and vital convenience.
I watch a lot of doggystyle scenes and usually after 20-30 seconds the performers' vertical orientation have slightly moved relative to the camera. Which is to be expected, people aren't robots.
In HS I can compensate fir this momentarily without even opening any menus.
With deovr I just tolerate the skewed image coz I don't wanna stop the video, navigate to the appropriate slider and fix it every 20-30 seconds (sometines less).
Jacksonjdr94 thanks. That's being taken care of
For anyone comparing Heresphere and DeoVR alignment, we have Roll disabled (named Jaw 
) because it breaks the stereo, why it works in HS is because of Autofocus feature (feel free to disable it and try rolling the dome).
I find it way smoother in HS thou and that is certainly something we can better in Deo, also we can remove the vignette, I guess your inner ears are used to rotating worlds by now 
Sandi_SLR For anyone comparing Heresphere and DeoVR alignment, we have Roll disabled (named Jaw
yaw