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JDubs2121 Also DeoVR said there would be the option for 120fps on quest 3 with this update and that's still not an option

It sounds like fixing this issue requires updating the Oculus SDK, which will be part of upcoming releases. I don't have an exact ETA, so we ask for you patience for a little bit longer while the team works on it!

I'm sure its been mentioned but Heresphere is great because of:
-auto focus tech, really helps overall and does wonders for sub 7k content
-much better zoom in/out, in deo picture gets warped
-resolution boost or smth, works, sharper image

I noticed recently that HereSphere added DirectShow support, which was easy to set up. You just follow a link to download codecs (same as if you've added LAV filters before.. but even if you haven't it's just a download and basic install).. then in the HereSphere app option you switch from Media Foundation to DirectShow.. that simple and it now plays seemingly every video from the few I tested instead of giving error messages on many videos previously

HereSphere still doesn't support photos though.. and can still be a pain in the azz to set up controls. DeoVR is easier, can view photos (at least jpgs or something.. many not pngs.. has some support either way) and I'm sure directly viewing SLR is a much better experience.

So downloaded videos, I'm likely switching back to HereSphere again with this improved compatibility (due to the better visuals with better autofocus, etc as others have mentioned and I experienced already), but if I want quickness, ease of use, SLR site support, photos, then I'd use DeoVR

doublevr I like deo better than HS with a few exceptions... the fact that I have a difficult time getting deo and my local media server to play nicely with each other as it seems deo only likes to find and or recognize dlna servers and I find smb easier to manage since I put all my shit in the same three folders (one for dl's in progress, one for completed dl's and finally one for failed/interrupted dl's I have yet to fix/renew dl token/link to resume and successfully complete dl which then triggers the file being moved to the completed dl folder). Deo really likes finding and displaying my dlna servers though. Just no smb... My real question that i signed up to this forum for though is how are y'all getting hs to play non local videos on HS without clicking the dl button and using one of the 30 dl limit slots? I primarily use HS because my connection isn't usually fast enough to stream 8k so I almost always have to dl for smooth playback....... HOWEVER, in the middle of the night, when bitchass Verizon towers haven't got my ass deprioritized, streaming on demand 8K with minimal pausing is totally within my acceptable tolerance/frustration ratio. Am I missing something or how do I get the API to load on HS? TIA and apologies for my questionable use of the terminology.. I did the best I could to make it make sense but I'm far from a guru or even a Dev just an enthusiast/hobbyist at best so if something doesn't make sense then that would probably be why.

    fabtheo1 api response time it's being fixed right now. Something that we can be exceptionally great at with the recent architectural changes coming from super strong new back end team.

    Whenever DeoVR team gets string Unity engineers they will address the rest of it. There's everything in place to get Deo on top of the game. Doing our best to secure top unity heads

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    fenderwq Performance - I haven't tested this in a while but it used to be I could play the original VrAllure files (with 100% super sampling on Pimax 8kx with my RTX 2070) on HereSphere and not on DeoVR. DeoVR would become pretty much become unresponsive when I tried to play these vids.

    I wasted a full hour troubleshooting this problem. These videos only run smoothly on Deo if the user turns off the options for Direct Show both in the settings and the viewing panel. Additionally, as of two weeks ago, these files required a separate installation of LAV filters from the filters included in the K-Lite Mega codec pack. For some reason, these changes are only required for streaming them through VirtualDesktop or OculusLink, however. If you have the patience for copying them to the device, the clarity is exceptional.

      [deleted] thanks man, did try all that though, have a new gpu now anyways so everything plays fine now

      fabtheo1 You can't get the api to load on HereSphere. SLR blocked them from using it. The only way to watch SLR vids on HS is to download them (but then they are mad that you are downloading too much 🤷‍♂️ ).

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        Wendigo you are downloading too much

        Everyone who purchased a Quest 3 is likely trying out how the 'original' files look on their device. SLR's profit margin should be back to normal soon enough. However, they would be wise to have a plan competitive with POVR's $15.00 a month bundle, especially if they can work out the bank situation that allows POVR to accept Vanilla Visa cards.

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        LordCrash No, it doesn't.

        Are you viewing the "original" film file or compressed files? Are you viewing the films over a 6e connection with a fast gaming PC?

        14 days later

        Two major features in HereSphere I would like to have in DeoVR:

        1. Autofocus
          I don't want to see a Cyclops during kiss scene. Autofocus is probably a good way to solve this issue for existing VR videos. In case of wrong distance prediction, the 3 sub-features probably can help to mitigate.
          1a. Swith ON/OFF autofocus by a button
          1b. Scripted auto focus
          1c. Eye tracking autofocus
          (Either by manually turn on during close scene, or pre-scripped to determine the distance, or by eye tracking Quest Pro only)

        2. PC GPU Video enhancement
          I have a powerful GPU (Nvidia RTX 4080), and probably video enhancement can be performed on PC side to upscale the video resoluion and improve the quality.

        11 days later

        hs allows multiple 2d videos to be played at the same time.

        Something i wish they both had is horizontal flip. not sure why its such a hard feature to implement. deo used to have it

        a month later

        Mouse support, I had not having a cursor I can move around with my mouse in Deovr, its the number thing I miss from heresphere.

        why not just solve this issue instantly and re-enable the api so we can use heresphere if we want to?

        3 months later

        Just tried Heresphere and I immediately notice the bump in framerates. The same videos plays much smoother, almost as if I had some frame interpolation like on modern TV (that is on my Quest 3) than on DEOVR.
        This is true with H264 shitty quality and H265 8K videos.
        Why is it so? Why is DeoVR not as smooth as Heresphere? Did I set up something wrong? (that's the native app, not the PC apps). Both are set to 120Hz btw.