DeoVR v HereSphere

Timbama

doublevr Today's HS update (0.10.0) introduced PT and some new PT features like chroma key & alpha packed masking, if you want to check it out.

I only have a Quest 2, so I can't comment on the quality.

SchnuppiLilac

Timbama Release notes: https://heresphere.itch.io/heresphere-vr-video-player-quest-2/devlog/635013/update-v0100-released

SchnuppiLilac

Timbama First impressions of HS PT:

Working out of the box for alpha videos. Main difference to DeoVR I noticed is how both players process the edges of images (i.e. the edges of body parts). Not sure yet if one way is better or worse than the other. DeoVR has like a thin glowing halo on the edges, while HS does not but instead seems to create artifacts on the edges.
Chroma key PT: I am lost in space. Maybe the chroma key color selection is only supposed to be used for green screen videos (not tested) but I tried making a regular VR vid into PT (like @Vrsumo2017 does with DeoVR) and that seems to involve endless fiddling with up to 34 individual parameters that you have to type in (no sliders). Didn't even know where to start.

Timbama

SchnuppiLilac Chroma key PT: I am lost in space. Maybe the chroma key color selection is only supposed to be used for green screen videos (not tested)

That's what chroma masking is for, from how I read it. If there's a big part of an image in the same colour (like a green or blue screen as background), it will make those pixels transparent.

SchnuppiLilac

I tried and indeed, chroma key masking seems to work quite well if it's a green screen video.

After making the green transparent, there remains a thin green line around the edges (which I managed to turn into a white line), so some further adjustments will probably be needed to make it perfect.

filis

Vrsumo2017

filis just reading the instructions for their pass through seems confusing 🤦‍♂️

Hurto11

I’m very disappointed with the Hs update because it’s intended only for Greenscreen or blue screen PT videos. So pretty useless when using regular vr vids. It will be good if and when companies start producing more PT but at the moment have to work with like the 10 videos that exist.

stustustustu

Hurto11 So pretty useless when using regular vr vids

PT on regular videos is pretty useless here too, you either end up with furniture and junk all over the place that couldn't be removed or performers with horrifying missing eyes (or both).

Vrsumo2017 I tried it but it's to confusing and with no sliders

The dev has been working on a big UI overhaul, but it's not expected for a while.

Hurto11

I spent an hour so messing around with all the settings. And you have WAY more control over the PT than with DEO but it can take like over 30 minutes per video to get it right and even then it’s not close to perfect. But until they actually start putting hot chicks in PT, I’ll spend my time figuring it out. It’s worth it because the quality in HS is superior.

fenderwq

Haven't tried the hs pass-through yet but passthrough for non green screen or alpha scenes is pretty bad anyways.

filis

Czechvr will be another Passthrough player.
A short test video has been released for use in HereSphere.
[https://czechar.com/pt/001-czechar-3d-7680x3840-60fps-oculusrift_uhq_h265-test_1.mp4]
https://www.czechar.com/pt/001-czechar-3d-7680x3840-60fps-oculusrift_uhq_h265-test_1.hsp
(Leave the video and .hps file in the same folder)

SchnuppiLilac

filis That looks really promising! I also like the fact that it's a solo video (similar to the video in the pic below) which I think is something SLR should also explore for PT in addition to BG.

For those who haven't seen it: It's a green screen video with chroma key masking, with settings coming from the hsp file which means it's ready to use without further fiddling.

doublevr

SchnuppiLilac the plan is to get PT i and Alpha into a separate layer.

JDubs2121

After the DeoVR update today WankzVR web view no longer works... I would search by model or my favorites to find my video then click download to stream it. Now I can't see my favorites or even a search bar, just recent full videos and previews lol wtf. Great update DeoVR😡. BadoinkVR works exactly like it did before so why has Wankz changed. After this I'm really thinking of switching to HS since the only thing keeping me on Deo was pt and its simplicity, but now HS is getting pt. Also DeoVR said there would be the option for 120fps on quest 3 with this update and that's still not an option. Is there any way to natively go back to the previous version?

doublevr

JDubs2121 you can put things in a technical perspective without sounding a whining bitch, right?

justsomedude101

JDubs2121 Also DeoVR said there would be the option for 120fps on quest 3 with this update and that's still not an option

It sounds like fixing this issue requires updating the Oculus SDK, which will be part of upcoming releases. I don't have an exact ETA, so we ask for you patience for a little bit longer while the team works on it!

JDubs2121

doublevr I guess expressing our anger and frustration isn't welcome here. Thanks for all the help✌️

Vrsumo2017

Vrsumo2017 just reading the instructions for their pass through seems confusing 🤦‍♂️

Idk, I tried it but it's to confusing and with no sliders, I have to type in the #s, confusing and kinda frustrating. I just gave up 🤷‍♂️

Jumping into pass through with regular vrp videos has to be an easy method, deos pass through is fast and easy to jump in to pt. 👍

This hs pt is like rocket science 🤦‍♂️

doublevr

JDubs2121 keep your anger and frustration to some other place. You welcome

Crowley

Vrsumo2017 no sliders

In HS you can adjust values by holding the grip button over the value and using the thumbstick up and down for big steps, and left and right for small steps. Holding the grip button also gives you a tooltip, which could be helpful.

Timbama

Vrsumo2017 It automatically detects normal PT videos, not sure what you are talking about. And in the settings, there's a very easy tab to manually turn it on or off with one button.

And like someone else said, turning normal VR into PT doesn't work well with any player atm.

Vrsumo2017

Crowley In HS you can adjust values by holding the grip button over the value and using the thumbstick up and down for big steps

Lol, I thought something like should work but I held the front trigger, I'll try that.

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