spacepirate if consumers want a product as it is, that product is indeed "ready" to be on the market.
Especially when that product is purely entertainment.
If you don't like passthrough then that's cool, you don't have to watch it.
Other people do, and they will. It's going to be made available to them here.
And if this is a problem for you then it's your problem.
Jacksonjdr94 if consumers want a product as it is, that product is indeed "ready" to be on the market.
Especially when that product is purely entertainment.
justify it however you want. the fact is that there are many problems remaining, problems that would ordinarily be resolved before taking a product to market. if you have low enough standards to be happy about getting an unfinished product then good for you. the rest of us arent so pleased about paying for unwatchable junk (in the current state at least), especially when its pushing the fewer and fewer good scenes further down the release pipeline.
spacepirate lol @ telling me what "the rest of us" want.
*******, you don't speak for the customer base.
Share your personal opinion, sure.
But you don't just get to assume the position of self-appointed representative of all SLR subscribers.
Some people like passthrough, some people don't like it at all.
Your opinion is that it doesn't meet your standards. Yay for you.
Again. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.
The idea/suggestion that SLR should make less/none of something because it doesn't cater to your personal tastes is ridiculous.
Take care now 
Jacksonjdr94 Get fucked, you don't speak for the customer base.
i never claimed to. you decided to ignore the context and latch onto a few words while you were foaming at the mouth.
since it needs spelling out for you: "res of us" as in those of us who arent happy about getting unwatchable scenes prioritized over quality slro scenes (hint: thats not everyone).
spacepirate so by "the rest of us" you really mean "some of us" 
Which is kinda my point.
Some of us like passthrough, some of us don't.
We both pay our subscriptions. We're both valued customers.
I'm not telling them to cease making the porn you like, so why are you telling them to cease making the porn I like?
You seem to think it's important for SLR to cater exclusively to your tastes 100% of the time and never to mine whatsoever.
Or at least not until it meets your standards 
You have an opinion that the things you don't personally like are "unwatchable".
But they aren't, these scenes get their fsir share of plays/downloads/favourites.
SLR have made it clear that passthrough releases will be coming regularly.
Luckily if you don't like them you can choose not to watch them
Jacksonjdr94 passthrough would be less of a problem if slr had separate release queues. at the moment they have one (slr originals) and they are pushing passthrough scenes to the front of the queue. its not a problem if you like passthrough... it is if you dont. thats why i suggested in a separate thread that they should release them separately under a different studio.
Jacksonjdr94 You have an opinion that the things you don't personally like are "unwatchable".
no, they are very much unwatchable. quest 2 passthrough is really bad and their software isnt yet capable of cleanly eliminating the video background.
spacepirate the bottom line here is you are expecting content which you personally don't like to be pushed to the peripheral and made a low priority. Which is pretty entitled to say the least.
Calling it unwatchable is simply giving your opinion that you don't like it.
Many other people are finding these scenes
not only "watchable", but are indeed enjoying the fuck out of them. Because they're awesome.
If passthrough videos were even close to being as deeply unpopular as you seem to believe they are, SLR wouldn't be making them or planning to keep making them with any kind of regularity.
Jacksonjdr94 the bottom line here is you are expecting content which you personally don't like to be pushed to the peripheral and made a low priority.
no, im expecting it not to be prioritized. if slr released frequent passthrough scenes without impacting the release of other slro scenes i would not be taking issue.
Jacksonjdr94 Which is pretty entitled to say the least.
you know what is entitled? you trying to take the moral high ground here. if the roles were reversed and slr made some change that negatively impacted you, would you be taking the same view that you are now? absolutely not. you like passthrough, we get it. i doubt slr is going to take it away because a few people on the forum have some issues with how they are managing it.
If passthrough videos were even close to being as deeply unpopular as you seem to believe they are, SLR wouldn't be making them or planning
i never, not even once, claimed or implied that passthrough videos were unpopular.
Jacksonjdr94 spacepirate Guys please...it's almost the weekend and I can't be glued to this thread the whole time waiting for when it inevitably turn nasty/personal. If you want to keep the conversation going, please be sure to keep it civil.
We're working on the "alpha channel" masking (among other features), which should make the Passthrough scenes a more palatable to users who don't like or don't have headset that support the feature.
justsomedude101 when it inevitably turn nasty/personal.
guess you missed this
Jacksonjdr94 Get fucked
spacepirate I did. Corrected 
spacepirate Sorry but you are indeed asking your preferences to be prioritised.
I'm not trying to create beef with you, and i'm willing to offer an apology for cursing. But i remain adamant that what you're asking for is utterly ridiculous
Saying "The SLR scheduled releases should be exclusively the type of scenes I like. and the type of scenes I don't like should only ever be released as an additional bonus for others to enjoy" is honestly about as entitled as it gets.
SLR are pushing to make a variety of quality original content to suit a variety of tastes.
your tastes shouldn't be treated as more important than anyone else's. Just as my tastes shouldn't be treated as less important.
Why on earth do you even think that it's a remotely reasonable expectation that they create an additional peripheral release queue to separate scenes based on what you like/dislike?
If the roles were reversed?
This might surprise you but I don't expect that every SLR scene has to be one that I personally like.
I like about 5-10% of what my SLR subscription pays for, which is satisfactory to me.
I have specific tastes, evidently so do you but perhaps to a lesser degree.
The difference is you evidently want yours catered to as a priority while I just want my fair share.
You're suggesting that the scenes I like should be pushed to the periphery and should only ever be made as a secondary focus, while the scenes YOU like should always be the priority and primary focus.
And that's truly a BS suggestion.
If you're now willing to admit that passthrough videos are indeed popular, and that plenty of other people love them.
The question becomes this: Why do you think your personal negative opinions of passthrough scenes should somehow impact the release schedule when you know that a lot of other paying customers (who are equally as important as you are) do indeed want/anticipate/appreciate these passthrough scenes?
justsomedude101 got it. No more nasty/personal.
My apologies. It's not easy for me to politely express my level of disgust at user suggestions that my favorite SLR original content should be relegated to a separate site/subscription, or that it should only be released as some kind of additional gratuity so that the entirety of the monthly release schedule can be dedicated exclusively to the content they want.
impossible to have a reasonable discussion here while you continue to ignore most of what ive said. for some reason you keep inventing things i never said too, like this
Jacksonjdr94 suggestions that my favorite SLR original content should be relegated to a separate site/subscription, or that it should only be released as some kind of additional gratuity
I like getting the 2 weekly Original scenes we are used to getting. I like the new content too. I'm glad SLR upped their release schedule to 4 per week and we can have both. Everyone is happy now.
spacepirate let's just be perfectly clear here.
If there are 4 SLR originals released per week, and we call that 16 per month.
Hypothetically, how many of those 16 do you think is an acceptable number to be passthrough scenes in a month?
My understanding is that you are saying that if that number of monthly scenes remains at 16 then none of them should be passthrough scenes, because that would somehow be taking something away from you.
It also seems as if you are saying you're ok with passthrough videos being released as long as they are only ever additional to the 16 non-passthrough videos per month.
If I've misunderstood, please clarify
justsomedude101 Guys please...it's almost the weekend and I can't be glued to this thread the whole time waiting for when it inevitably turn nasty/personal. If you want to keep the conversation going, please be sure to keep it civil.
I don't know but maybe it would help if moderation just deleted posts that are only meant to insult other people and show zero interest in conversation in the first place so that a needless fight doesn't even start....
It's perfectly fine to be sad or angry about people who advocate against selling pizza at a burger joint. People always disagree about stuff and some people like stuff that others don't like. That's how our world works. But if you start your posts with insults you maybe shouldn't say anything at all.
LordCrash It's perfectly fine to be sad or angry about people who advocate against selling pizza at a burger joint.
That's a logical fallacy called a false dichotomy, and I think is the major misconception people are having with the new additional content.
SLR has been a site that offers variety since day 1, its not like a burger joint, or a pizza joint, its like a food court at a mall.
Sure, 90%+ of their business has been burgers in the past since that was most of the demand. But there is demand for pizza now too. Their plan, as they have stated, is to still offer the same amount of burgers to anyone who wants them AND also offer pizza to customers too. Its a dumb analogy, but that's the one you picked. You're still getting your 2 burgers a week, and the rest of us can have some pizza if we want, maybe some good Chinese or Mexican food too.
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One is VR, the other is MR/VR. That's not only different genres of porn, it's a completely different form of porn, pretty much like the difference between VR and 2D porn. Sexlikereal was a VR-only site in the past and only ever marketed itself as a VR site in the past. The AR/MR stuff is completely new and was never part of the original menu. That doesn't mean that they couldn't do whatever they want but it means that some people who loved the "old" menu are not that pleased about the new course of action. That's especially true for the lifetime subscribers who paid good money with the promise in mind that they just get more of the stuff that were sold to them at the moment they subscribed.
So the burger/pizza comparison very much applies here and it's actually not that hard to understand, even if you don't agree with the ones who are upset about this and even if you actually love the new content.
So yes, some people are obviously happy that the burger joint now also sells pizza. Some other people are not. That's how things always are. There is almost always positive and negative feedback. It's up to SLR to decide what to do with all the feedback they get but negative feedback is as valid as positive feedback and it's often a lot more valuable.
Your "you don't get less content" statemtn is a logical fallacy for the simple reason that the additional scenes could have been VR scenes instead of AR/MR scenes. The costs of the subscription goes up but the stuff I'd like to see and I've subscribed for doesn't. The additional money is spend on other stuff. It's called costs of opportuniy in business.
Just cope with the reality that you can't always please everyone and that some people don't like the stuff you like. They don't want that SLR use their sparse resources on things that you like but they don't. There's nothing wrong with that actually. It happens all the times, in every business and pretty much every other elements of our lifes.
LordCrash subscribers who paid good money with the promise in mind that they just get more of the stuff that were sold to them at the moment they subscribed.
You're still getting the amount of new weekly videos you subscribed for. At least 2 new VR videos every single week.
LordCrash Your "you don't get less content" statemtn is a logical fallacy for the simple reason that the additional scenes could have been VR scenes instead of AR/MR scenes.
That's not what a logical fallacy is. But yes, the burger people are not going to get 4 burgers a week while the pizza fans get nothing. There is a big demand for the new stuff, so that's selfish and absurd. There is room for both.
LordCrash The costs of the subscription goes up but the stuff I'd like to see and I've subscribed for doesn't.
SLR subscription prices stay at where you subscribe at. So that's just false. I've been a sub for 3+ years and its still the $15/month deal I was offered (Thanks SLR, that's a great deal). I'm pretty sure they aren't raising costs on people who have paid for a lifetime sub years ago either.
Also, if you go look at all of the SLR scenes released in the last calendar month, I bet you'll find that 80% of them are regular genre VR scenes. So the amount of regular VR content is actually going up despite your claim. They have added 2 new videos a week to their schedule since Feb 2022 and most of them have been normal genre VR videos. If you signed up more than a year ago you paid for 2 videos a week and now you're getting 3 (on average) regular scenes, and 1 (on average) MR or non-traditional genre VR scene. That is 50% more, not less.
LordCrash Just cope with the reality that you can't always please everyone and that some people don't like the stuff you like.
This logic also applies to the people who don't like the new content.
