Which studio's releases are better dowloaded than streamed? (Quest2 with Deovr)

highkiller

Dears,
Lately i noticed that VirtualRealPorn releases have much better lateral vision sharpness when you download the original file and then play it on your device (this applies to Quest2 with Deovr).
This revelation made me think if there are any other studios that have a better quality of their releases when you play the downloaded file? Before you start writing that all of the scenes look better dowloaded. Stop. Maybe it is true on some other vr headset but on Quest2 in the most of the popular releases I haven't noticed any diference between dowloaded file (oryginal or max) and streamed. Sometimes some studio's scenes look even better (imo) while streaming than after dowload (VRedging).

So, while using Quest2 device is there any releases from certain studios that are best watched dowloaded rather than streamed? Steaming is my go to option because of the convenience. If there is no clear benefit I would rather stream. But the benefit of dowloading VRP releases are so clear to me that I will download them from now on (especialy group scenes).

I am waiting for your suggestions.

P.S. are there some releases that are better viewed in specific vrplayer (I mostly use Deovr)? Lately it was pointed out to me that Oktoberfest scene by SLR looks much better dowloaded and played in other vrplayer (which was true). So I would be also glad if you could tell me examples like that (with recommended VR player for Quest2).

dojimmy

highkiller
Heresphere makes everything look better, try the free demo if you haven't already. after a few minutes on the demo i was happy to pay for the app.

someoneX

highkiller that Oktoberfest scene by SLR looks much better dowloaded and played in other vrplayer

That Oktoberfest scene unfortunately had some scaling problems (on both sides and for close objects). Even Heresphere couldn't fix that with reasonable effort.

Autofocus in Heresphere can help with "double vision" for close objects and has an easier way to change the angle if the camera doesn't match your own position. I hope we can get those two features in DEO too at some point.

The difference between downloads and streaming is mostly caused by bitrate. Streaming (and the corresponding "Max. Quality" download) on SLR is 30Mbps or even lower for 3rd party videos and lower resolution files, while some downloads have higher bitrates available as "original" option.

But those "Original" files are oversized (90+ Mbps) for actual usage in most cases - a few studios like VRHush/Fuckpass offer a better compromise (45Mbps in that case) on their studio website. Also almost all bigger studios not available on SLR use higher bitrate files.

spacepirate

highkiller youre imagining things. the max download is literally the same file thats used for streaming... and that applies to all studios. streaming on slr will never look better than a downloaded file.... only equal... or worse if you are comparing to original file.

Will65

highkiller Short answer: all of them.

Heresphere is hugely superior to DeoVR in every way, but SLR chased them off their platform. Now, we have to download videos to play them in Heresphere, and SLR gets to bitch about the downloading they caused.

doublevr

For any such comparison you better use quest pro for much better visuals.

Also the difference would be noticed more in order from better quality to lower.

Otherwise instead of downloading get quest pro for much higher visual gains even when streaming. Much lesser effort for better quality than you are currently on

doublevr

someoneX I get an instant headache in HereSphere once moving my head. Can't practically use it

highkiller

spacepirate
I think that you are talking about my statement that streaming sometimes looks better than downloaded file and my example of VRedging.
If it is the case then you might be right. To be honest I might be slightly imaging things here. Streamed scene looks very similar (or the same) to max download. I thought that it looks better while streaming, but it was very very close so it might have been just my perception error. Or maybe i made some slight video setting changes on the deovr app for this particular scene forgot about it and haven't looked into it while comparing.

Thanks for all the responses.

@dojimmy I will check the heresphere app (if it will be available. I think i heard about it before but haven't found it on meta shop).

@doublevr I haven't used quest2 long enough to be buying another vrheadset. I imagine that newer devices will have better visuals and maybe headset's from other brands have even better visuals than pro, but right now it is not a option for me

I was hoping more for examples of specific scenes or studios that gain significantly when dowloaded. Right now this discussion boiled down to a fight about the superiority of heresphere vs deovr.

Most studios releases (in my perception). Look almost identically when streamed or dowloaded. I even tried dowloading those oversized oryginal files that @someoneX mentioned. But haven't seen much improvement, so I decided that it is not worth (at least on quest2) to download a file that is x5 the size of a max file.

If some of you noticed some clearly visible positive difference after dowload (as i did on VirtualRealPorn releases) please share it.

P.S. if some of you are using quest device with deovr I recommend dowloading original file of "VirtualRealPorn House" to see what I am talking about. The difference between download and stream in this particular scene was beyond any doubt (and the difference in the size of the files is not so big).
On the other hand when I was comparing for example RealJamVR original and max files the visual difference was almost not existent or hardly noticeable (and the original files were a lot larger).
SinsVR scenes max vs original files seem to only change in the saturation.

fenderwq

I'm on pimax 8kx and quite a few scenes look better downloaded on this device. Exceptions are movies that are low bitrate/quality in the first place (e.g. VREdging, < 6k scenes, etc.) and it's also less noticeable if a scene is out of focus or has some other issue like poor lighting.
However a sharp 8k video (e.g. a few of the SLR originals such as "Big. Black. Tits." and "Ass, And You Shall Receive" from vrallure) look much sharper to me than the streamed variant, propably because 30mbs is too low a bitrate for that resolution to shine.

someoneX

doublevr If it's caused by the Auto-Focus you could try to raise the Auto-Focus accuracy to 15 or something like that. For me it doesn't work very well with lower default values. Or you could change the speed of Auto-Focus.

Overall the Auto-Focus takes some time to get used to, because the image gets distorted for a short moment when the focus changes.

If you use the Steam version (instead of the native Quest app) the framerate is determined by your PCVR settings. Maybe try to change that if the movement isn't fluid enough. Personally I prefer the native Quest app, because it's easier to get it working well.

Those are two things that may cause your headache problems.

Will65

doublevr That is your head spinning with regret for chasing them off.

rerun119

someoneX I turn off Auto-Focus unless I need it to fix a video or turn down the values. But it is really nice to have to fix cross eyed or if the camera was shifted to one side.

stefanno

Will65
Not in every way, yet at least.
I, for one can't stand the UI, it's so cluttered and unintuitive. And they don't have DLNA support, which is a deal breaker for me.

There are some really cool features, and controls are great, but it's far from being the best player imo

someoneX

stefanno Use it for a while and the interface will get much more intuitive. You don't need most settings regularly, but it's worth to check them out to know what they do.

Why do you need DLNA? If you use a PC or NAS for storage I highly recommend XBVR - it works very well with Heresphere and allows to sync star ratings, cue points and tags - that way they don't get lost if you change or reset your headset.

stefanno

someoneX
I tried it, but it's not really good for JAV, especially now that r18 is closed. I might try adding everything manually, but that would be a chore.
And direct SMB connecion in Heresphere doesn't show thumbnails, unless i missed something.
Right now i just have plex server, sorted by categories, and i add my own thumbnails.

spacepirate

highkiller original file is always higher quality than streaming/max download. how much higher the quality is can vary from studio to studio. usually its somewhere between "completely imperceptable" and "visibility higher quality that not everyone is observant enough or has the right setup to notice"

dojimmy

highkiller
Heresphere not in the oculus store yet, the dev is working on getting it in there. For the quest version at the moment you would need to sideload using sidequest, but it is well worth the effort.

Hurto11

@"stefanno" SMB works really well on it and it's fine. The only problem I have with Heresphere is that it's overly complex and there are so many settings and parameters that honestly don't really seem to do much and are unnecessary. DEO is much more user-friendly overall and has the passthrough settings. I have both and use both daily depending on what I want to watch.

dojimmy

Give xbvr a try with heresphere a try, takes a little while to set up but once you do it like having your whole collection as a personal site. The thumbnails and all the scene info tags etc makes using heresphere an absolute dream.

stefanno

dojimmy i got it set up pretty quickly with the "western" part of my collection, but it doesn't work for JAV at all. Which is a shame, there are many websites that list jav titles, so it shouldn't be that hard

dojimmy

thats interesting and unfortunate, i dont have any Jav downloads so wasnt aware. I thought i had noticed some Jav studios on scraper list after the last couple updates, they couldn be a new addition or maybe i just didnt notice them before.

Shame about R18 i was only just starting to really get into JAV when that site went down, so i never got to try it out.

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