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  • Why don't we get into private deepfakes?

catflap Who do you think will render these 20,000 unique videos or supply data for them?

    Smart, that's why I like SLR for always experimenting and innovating.

    catflap You make it sound like it's easy. Do you even know what kinda powerful servers are needed to edit an 8K VR video on-the-fly based on the users configuration? Who is going to provide the VR player for you to make it all convenient? I don't think it's gonna make SLR obsolete.. if anything this use-case can strengthen their popularity even more if done right, fair price and compliant with the law.

        damian catflap didn't give a time requirement on what he said. He said"once deepfakes become sufficiently advanced" which could be 10 years or more from now. I do think he has a point.

          doublevr I think photorealistic CG faces would be much safer. doublevr I don't know where you live but in the US you will gets sued so fast if any girl finds out a guy from her school used her pictures for deepfake porn. It don't matter if you are legally allowed or not.

            Intriguing idea! If executed well, this will give us exponentially more talent to choose from. I'm sure a lot of OnlyFans girls, cam girls or even some instagram models will be interested. It is much less intimidating sending a few photos than shooting hardcore porn.

            It also creates a win-win situation if you allow the girls to promote their OF/cam accounts on their profile pages. They'd get a lot more subscribers that way... I'm sure a lot of men would love to talk to girls they could "fuck".

            And they can help promote SLR on their channels. "Want to know what it's like to have sex with me? Well now you can. Sign up to SLR and experience what it's like to have sex with me. Use the code AliceSLR for a 7 day free trial"

            A technology which, as far as I can tell, is somewhat behind visual deepfakes at the moment is voice replication, and I think that the audio aspect of a scene is as important as the video.

            Most research I've seen in that area is more along the lines of providing text to a model that then reads it out in a voice it's learned- but it feels to me that it should be significantly easier to use prerecorded audio and shift tones and pitches to match the target voice. This will probably fall short in terms of things like speed and rhythm of a voice, so not sure how convincing it would be but I think it's worth exploring.

            I think the idea of having contracted models for deepfakes is the correct one both legally and morally, so it would be good to take some voice samples as well as high quality images from angles optimised for the best deepfake results.

              Would it be possible to deepfake tits and asses too? To choose from contracted girls?

              doublevr and its really just a kinda good starting point since you already have some cg studios and a good cooperation is always benefical. -- Also making some VR deepfake "stable diffusion" thing of images is a good pointer for just having i libary of vr images. to scroll threw or to at some point place in space. because sometimes you a whole scene just just to much a classy image libary brings some. --- also what you could do probly legaly very much less harsh thing a input of somebody and find the couple closest in the database when it comes to user submited images to get deepfakes out. would still not recommend that.

                If you make this happen, I would invite you to more than one beer 🤣

                Also i think private upload per profile should be ok as long as its not published to public.

                Deepsucebe did the same until they hid it behind a paywall. But its still possible and so far no laesuit has been made.

                And i think as long as it does not get published and just procedsed on the server it might be ok?

                Sure--I have a lifetime membership, but I'd pay a few bucks extra, like I do with scripts, for this.

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                catflap

                I think people will still prefer real people instead of these hundreds of unique "configurations".

                I imagine that one day everyone would be able to sell their faces to deepfakes companies and earn money whenever a user watches a video with their faces. Users will be willing to pay big money to watch "configurations" generated from real people in their real life instead of some fake configurations.

                    Let's be honest, no one is going to give a damn about a list of girls who signed to be part of this unless they are already girls who dont already actively do VR already. Everybody wants deepfakes with women who are not in porn, celebrities and influencers or other non porn related talent. I would go out on a limb and say that any girl willing to sign off on something like this already has porn content out there, and quite possibly VR porn scenes already with other studios. You talking about face swapping, if you thought early deepfakes looked bad, just imagine a cookie cutter approach to a "one body in one scene to fit all faces" approach. The seams and blending will look awkward, specially in VR when you factor in the stereoscopic aspect of it. It sounds like a cool project but people will eventually start putting out the type of deepfake VR scenes with celebrities' that people actually want and it will probably first spring out on those porn torrent sites and maybe some fool somewhere will get away with it on patreon if he's good enough, same way most of us somehow managed to get our hands on some of those decent deepfake videos with our favorite celebrities will be the same way we get our first taste of it on VR, so look through those platforms first, if this hasnt already been done. I have been out of those type of torrent sites for at least a couple of years so I'm not quite sure what the latest and greatest is on that scene.

                    i must be some sort of wierdo, but I love being able to generate AI pictures of non-existent women, since they compare quite favorably with real content

                    • impossible to match beauty.
                    • any body type I choose
                    • any action I choose
                    • any clothing or scene I choose
                    • any dialog I choose
                    • whenever I want to create a new scene (or click the "surprise me" button) vs scenes which may or may not work for me
                    • no risk of the "fantasy woman" retiring, getting lip filler or getting massive fake tits
                    • no risk that the "fantasy woman" is being coerced or manipulated into giving me a show
                    • no risk that someone underage has sneaked into the feed

                    the alternative of real girls is preferable at the moment, because a viable digital alternative doesnt yet exist (sorry SplineVR) - but it will come, and I will be all aboard the AI train

                    heck, even my profile picture here is a random AI generated woman

                      catflap Images generated using Unstable Diffusion are already very high quality and is improving at a rapid rate.

                      I wouldn’t be surprised if we’d be able to generate high quality VR videos with a few years of development.

                      Another big plus of this approach is it will give us unlimited models to choose from. No matter what our tastes are, we can repeatedly generate a new face that match whatever look you prefer!