I have the keon and the things I like about the project are these -

  • have stronger battery
  • longer stroke
  • twist
  • open source not locked into manufacturer

I bought the power blow by kiiroo, this really made the toy about 3-4x better. there is nothing like the toy actually sucking the cum out of you. I would definitely want the suction feature. videos need 3 scripts, 1 for up/ down, 1 for twist, 1 for suction. problem came in when you needed more lube when powerblow was on.



This solved the problem but since your toy twists, might want to have a resivior on top of stroker lid (where the pump is) and a tube that goes to they port seen in pictures. I used model airplane fuel lines and will need some foam to protect pump from lube.

  • allow for clearance for tube to spin. or an option to only spin 90 deg right to 90 deg left of center when suction is on (tube to base, or wires to pump on toy. suggest tube.)
  • also when setting length of stroke, when stroke is reduced by 50% then the script full length and all movements are reduced by 50% and so on.
  • have an option to by a wall plug in so it can charge and work off power adapter for infinite use and not worry about battery dieing.
  • I do like the option of a Doc Johnson connection so I can put a dildo on it, then use it on my lady too. and ladies can use it too.
  • I wish the bottom of stroker was not the limit of the toy movement. I wish toy movement was 1-2" lower then the housing. yes, there would also be a limit on bottom stroke limit too then.

Toynerd The Handy does a great job at stroking up and down and syncing, I feel like it has an ideal stroke length but you have to be hard to enter it and it's easy for it to come off during use.
The $50 toy I got yesterday from Amazon does an amazing job at suction, tightness due to that suction, and allowing a totally limp penis to be sucked in and gotten hard. In my testing I actually waited until I was soft, used no porn, cut on the suction and it pulled me in and make me hard. I then cut off the suction and it maintained a perfect tightness due to the vacuum the suction created, I then manually used the device to stroke myself up and down which actually would have gotten me off without the device being on because of the perfect fit created by the suction.
I'm in my 50s so that was an amazing feat to do without porn and without medication.
So if you were able to simply combine the up and down action of the Handy with the suction and auto tightness ability of the $50 Amazon toy, you would have a winner that's better than anything else on market now. Especially combined with your porn synced on the Quest 3 and the fact that the Amazon toy keeps your penis tightly inside with no risk of coming out.

...yea, i've been banging on about suction for years, in my opinion it's the holy grail of scriptable devices, for all the reasons you mention. You might be interested in a machine hack i made up years ago. The thread is a bit old, and needs updating, but i'm still using this set up, and it easily competes with much more expensive equipment like the Serious Kit for fuckability:

https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/how-to-hack-a-suck-o-mat-2-eu-or-hummer-2-0-us-to-give-full-controllable-suction-for-your-handy/74600

Gonna do a big assed thread on ES about scriptable suction at some point soon, will keep you in the loop...

    a month later

    Well, I have been trying different toys (Fleshlight, TPE full size hip Vagina & Ass, auto blow mouth, vibration, suction, heat...) these past years and I am really disppointed with Male SexToys in General.... It's like the people who manufacture them don't try them enough to improve the Toy's Defects or problems users may have.
    I think most people tend to use them a couple times and then throw them to the Trash because it's too heavy, or too noisy or too Uncomfortable to use or to Complicated to Sanitize or wash and dry and store....
    After thinking a lot, the only solution that would correct most of the inconvenients I have with Sextoys is this:

    A Sextoy that is some kind of UNDERPANT you can WEAR....
    Before that, I was thinking in some kind of Sextoy (similar to available ones) but that has a strap so you can lie in bed and let it automatically stroke your penis HandsFree..
    After trying "Do It Yourself" stuff... I think that an Underwear Style of Stroker/Sucker/Heater... would be a Really Big Step Forward compared with all the Male SexToys I have seen and tried.
    The Key Factors that would make a VR SexToy worth of buying for me are these ones:

    • Wearable like UnderWear or with some kind of strap so we could use it easily without having a Hand holding it ALL THE TIME (we need our Hands for the VR Headset controllers, we need our hands to pick up and apply the lube, we need our Hands to grab/hold the toy.... how many hands do you think a Human has?)
    • Toy with some kind of "Tank/Reservoir" to put the lube inside so the lube is automatically sucked inside the sleeve. Or some kind of silicone tube like those women dildos which have a kind of lube reservoir on which they can press so it seems that the dildo cums (the lube that is inside).

    This other specifications are more secondary to me:

    • If it holds some heat or is heatable, it would be more realistic to me.
    • If it is wearable, I would buy it even if I had to fuck it moving my hips and not having Automatic Stroking.. If it can Stroke Automatically an existing Fleshlight Synked with a VR Video through Funscript, It would be cool.
    • If it could have Sucking Function, it would be cool.
    • I don't care too much about vibration
    • I would care more about the Toy being able to Mimic what you are watching in the VR Video than how many Vibration or Spinning Programs it has.

    I am thinking that it could be way simpler and smaller than a Kiiroo Keon...
    Imagine an Underpant that has a simple Stroke Mechanism that is attached to the Underpant so you cant put a Fleshlight On It and the Stroke Mechanism only has to Move Away the Fleshlight from your body and let it drop/come down again.
    When You finish, you can detach the Auto-Stroke Mechanism from the Underpant and the Fleshlight from the Stroker Mechanism... and Wash The Underpant and Different parts Separately.
    That Could Be Very COOL!

      Carlo92
      This is a very interesting idea. A wearable mounting system hadn't even crossed my mind before seeing your post. You would need pretty rigid bracing that wraps around to support the weight. But if you set it up around the thighs, that could work really well as it would feel as if the toy is gripping onto you and pulling you closer.
      There is some tricky engineering here, but it should be doable.

      I'd suggest posting this on the TempestMax discord. Someone there may be interested in taking this and building a prototype.

        rerun119 Well, I would prefer something that doesn't convert my bedroom into a Futuristic Robotics Workshop... They seem a little Complicated & Bulky... They seem well ingeniered but not very ergonomic imho...
        What I find is missing on the OSR Robots is some kind of system to strap it on your belly or something... I don't see me using a Heavy-Duty RGB Gaming Monitor Arm to attach the Robot Base or puting the Robot Base between my legs... I don't get it. I have the same impression as with other Auto-Toys ... it seems they don't take into account that we have a body.... we have a penis, 2 legs, a belly, 2 arms... where/how do a put/attach/hold the robot (base) so it is stable to use?
        Maybe a different version of the an OSR/SSR that straps on your belly (and back weist) or maybe some kind of system that has the moving arms moving up and down on either side of your weist and some base on your back that you can lie on (your bed).

          The device is much better than expected.

          Looking for production team and product owner to market it

            doublevr I thought in late November last year you said it wasn't going to be released till mid 2025? I'm not complaining at all, just pleasantly surprised. Any more information you can provide regarding it, maybe a rough estimate of the price?

                I use handy and it's unbelievable how real it is, being able to change the covers to match the video is good (blow, anal, vaginal, etc). Maybe a design to feel the pressure of the actress's legs/butt on top would be interesting for immersion, it could be something to compare separately and fit together. But certainly the most important thing is to leave your hands free, it makes everything more immersive, an adjustable waist support would be interesting, to lie down, sit and stand without your hands, I use my own table support for the handy and it's good both for standing and sitting without hands. If you manage to do something better than handy, it will be really incredible and unbelievable, because I think it's difficult to be better, handy is practically 98% like real sex, I've already made the comparison.

                  kim34d I use the Handy and I like it but I hope the new device will be less noisy and with longer sleeves.

                  doublevr Is there any detail you can share with us? Single or multiple axis? Suction feature? Sleeve is inside or outside like the Handy. Thanks.

                        VRexplorer True, and also maybe being able to adjust the stimulation would be good, although the handy is good, it stimulates a lot, making it last less than in real life ahah almost impossible to last an entire scene

                          5 days later

                          Carlo92 Totally agree with this!

                          Although I enjoyed the fleshlight a few years ago when I first got one, I found the Handy to be over complex and not fit for purpose. Ideally, you have to fit a mini fleshlight to it, and then if you want hands free, you have to DIY mount it.

                          I don't think fleshlight compatibility is the answer, it needs to be an all in one unit and easily mountable. Body-wear mounting sounds like a great idea!

                            4 months later

                            Any updates on the toy?

                            6 months later