doublevr Current pre-production prototype is going to trash along with the team behind it.

...oh balls, what a shame, i'm so sorry, still i hope it's all valuable experience. Though in some way i'm glad you're rethinking the entire concept, there's been some interesting new tech recently, at least one Handy copy, and don't get me started on that bunch from Hong Kong with their hyper-aggressive marketing and the weird cult. The field is moving fast, may as well aim high.

So, how far back are you going, design wise? Still [up/down] and [twist], or are you rethinking from the ground up? Because i'm gonna pitch it now, it would be amazing if you could do suction. Suction is like the fourth dimension of axis; all axis of movement are just motions, but suction is an organic effect that adds a huge colour palette to that/those motion/s. If you could conquer suction with Mk2 machine, you would have your own cult! And lots of money.

Been using an open loop suction machine / Handy hybrid for years, i honestly can't imagine how y'all cope with 'just a sleeve'. Best feeling in the world, and nobody is marketing it yet....

    InfiniteFun Agree with this either a suction motion or a tightening kegel like motion. I guess that can be the distinction for a toy with a mouth or pussy/ass sleeve.

    doublevr Thanks for the update. Just want to respectfully disagree with previous poster that said twisting feature is not necessary. To me that would be the #1 thing that could set a new toy apart from the Handy and similar, which are just up and down. It is simply not true that twisting doesn’t happen much—happens all the time with BJs and HJs. If you could script and HJs and BJs to match both twisting and up and down it would be incredibly immersive, and an entirely distinct and vastly elevated experience compared to what is currently available. Strongly in favor of that.

      Garyindiana2 of course! I was referring to a toy to simulate vaginal/anal sex. Would agree with you on the twisting for HJ/BJ simulation. I guess the team can create a versatile product and the scripts with the right sleeve can really bring it to life. These are all great features!

      twisting does matter , I hope the new design will kick ass with great performance

      to be honest all i want is it to have a connection to a holder arm like mikrophone holder ore soemthing like that so i can use without the need to hold it

      I think the most important thing is to make it as quiet as possible. A close second is some form of versatile and intuitive hands-free capability. Those two things would skyrocket the immersion. The way I see it from my experience using several different toys, stroking is most important, followed by a squeezing/sucking sensation, and lastly, a twisting sensation. If you guys can figure out an accurate way to implement all three, and in a virtually silent manner with hands-free capability, you will be gods!

      Edit: And before anyone brings up the Syncbot...I do own one. I purchased it myself, and it is not a good example of what I'm suggesting here. It is very loud, the touch controls are not ideal, the stroke length is way too short, and the twisting is too aggressive (ai scripting issue mostly), but it also only twists a portion of the sleeve, not the entire length of the sleeve. I appreciate everything they're going for, and I'm sure it will improve over time with better ai scripting, but the hardware limitations are the focus here. Bottom line: check it out SLR team, but your toy needs to be done better.

      To put it simple we can have another stroker with ultimate connectivity in half a year from now. Everything is ready for that.

      But I'd rather go for iconic device that will take another year to accomplish + manufacturing. Glad we are getting a team for that

      How many full length strokes the new toy can do in a minute?
      Is it going to be faster than the handy?

      Did this thing ever have a name selected? There was a contest a while ago to come up with names, did one ever get chosen?

        18 days later

        I see that it's going to be connected via Wi-Fi. But is there any plans to have a wired (USB) connection option as well? I can't count the number of times I've been blue balled by my Handy disconnecting mid session due to shoddy internet. I know the world is wireless now, but having that option would be nice.

          3 months later
          17 days later

          Looks like this machine will be awesome!

          I just have one wish...
          I really want it to be perfect fit with fleshlight sleeves and not like kiiroo keon that is too small. A squeezed fit is not good enough. because they are already tight as it is. Unless fleshlight cases works to use then it's already perfect fit by default.

          If it works perfect with my fleshlight girls i will be all over this and buy one as soon as it's out!! a dream product from what i seen so far!

          I definitely think there's a need for a toy like what you're creating. I currently own a Handy, Syncbot, Autoblow and just got the top selling masturbator on Amazon yesterday. https://a.co/d/i0PGeM5
          From my experiences with the varying powered toys I own (I have all the top non-powered ones as well):
          The Handy does a great job at stroking up and down and syncing, I feel like it has an ideal stroke length but you have to be hard to enter it and it's easy for it to come off during use.
          The $50 toy I got yesterday from Amazon does an amazing job at suction, tightness due to that suction, and allowing a totally limp penis to be sucked in and gotten hard. In my testing I actually waited until I was soft, used no porn, cut on the suction and it pulled me in and make me hard. I then cut off the suction and it maintained a perfect tightness due to the vacuum the suction created, I then manually used the device to stroke myself up and down which actually would have gotten me off without the device being on because of the perfect fit created by the suction.
          I'm in my 50s so that was an amazing feat to do without porn and without medication.
          So if you were able to simply combine the up and down action of the Handy with the suction and auto tightness ability of the $50 Amazon toy, you would have a winner that's better than anything else on market now. Especially combined with your porn synced on the Quest 3 and the fact that the Amazon toy keeps your penis tightly inside with no risk of coming out.

          As far as my other two toys:
          I'm not impressed at all with the Autoblow 2 and the Syncbot I'm most impressed with the build quality, the engineering and the multiple functions it does. The stroke length isn't long enough on it though and if it had a setting to maintain tightness using its squeezing feature then it would work better for me. The spinning function on it sometimes overstimulates me and makes it hard to finish without the proper stroke length. Surprisingly, I can finish easier with the cheaper Handy or even the $50 Amazon toy. I would also say adding a great handsfree ability to your toy would be very helpful too. I have the handsfree option on the Handy and it's too hard to setup and stay in place for me.

          Hopefully the qualities I've pointed out from my actual use of some of the top toys out there can help you in your design process.

            Toynerd

            Thanks for sharing your insights @Toynerd - in many ways I would agree with much of your post

            Sounds like you would actually quite enjoy the Kiiroo Powerblow connected simultaneously with the Kiiroo Keon (which we both support at SLR)
            That combination provides an excellent suction and stroking motion that helps especially without needing to be fully erect while in use

            Its a bit shorter stroke length than what you would be used to with The Handy though the full sleeve feeling and that suction effect more than makes up imo

            Have you tried their newest AutoBlow AI Ultra? =https://autoblow.com/product/autoblow-ai-ultra/

            The Autoblow 2 is definitely a sub par device which I would not recommend, but they massively improved the performance and sensation with their latest device)

            It has the speed and stroke length of the Handy (with much faster loading times) with the full sleeve sensation and quietness of the Keon with the ability to easily use it handsfree (pop it in a neck pillow like the Keon) and should be a great device for those that want something in between

            The main progress was made on connectivity to make it out of box ultra fast connection with servers and peer to peer Control My Sex Toy.

            Hardware and electronics are getting iterative progress. We are looking for a dedicated person to bring it to a factory and lead the whole thing