R18 JAV site closing for good

ZENRA

[deleted] Credit card companies want to process for as much as possible. They just don't want to get into any legal trouble. If you want them to be more open, push for repealing obscenity laws. It's easy to be a keyboard warrior by sitting back and pointing fingers, but the problem is way more complex and we should be thankful the two giants have been vocal many a time about not wanting to decide what legal services to process for and what not to process for.

ZENRA

Punksxc DRM has a use, but I agree it appears like studios focus so much on 'copy guard' but bury their heads in sand when it comes to preventing actual piracy from happening that makes the situation a bit frustrating. At the end of the day though, in spite of this imperfect system, running a totally legal site makes it easy to rest easy at night compared to running a pirate site worrying if that sketchy ad network will actually pay on time, whether you'll wake up with a billion DMCA's, hard knocks on the door at 3AM, etc.

ZENRA

argyle43 A company as huge and convoluted as DMM is well beyond the grasp of any mere mortal to 'comprehend'. Even among Japanese conglomerates, their corporate structure is in a class by itself. To see how it looks, do an image search for 'timeline of Primer'.

argyle43

ZENRA timeline of Primer

😂🤣

I got the reference immediately but had to go see what that would look like. Holy crap - the movie made my head hurt, even after three viewings - in fact getting to the periphery of understanding makes the head hurt even more. That diagram nearly made it explode!

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I'm still getting my mind around the plot of "Immortality"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1350200/IMMORTALITY/

@doublevr and the good folks of SLR Originals need to hire those guys to shoot interactive porn. The game / film is visually stunning.

RoccoVR

What I'm wondering is if a studio or company like SLR that is in another country with different laws buys out their entire catalogue or buys out one of these Japanese studios, could they then get all the files and remove all the censorship and redistribute them without the blurring/censorship since they are now operating as a company outside of Japan?

ZENRA

RoccoVR It's possible if we get contractual permission from all performers and can afford to spend the tens of millions of dollars (bare minimum) to make this pipe dream a reality.

argyle43

RoccoVR entire catalogue 😂

Might be easier fitting Mt. Everest into a carry-on bag 🤣

I believe there’s a full-page picture of R18 site in the picture dictionary entry for prolific.

Punksxc

RoccoVR that be a first in porn history for anyone outside of japan (as far as I know), to buy a jav studio. Great idea.

RoccoVR

Natch

DRM is useless, JAV studios should know that. Their movies are pirated on the same day, so the one who gets penalized is the one who wants to pay for the content, but with DRM-free downloads.

SLR is a good example that you can maintain a digital video business with downloads without DRM.

There are many of us who want to pay for JAV VR movies even if they are available for free pirated, but we need the downloads to be able to use our own players and max image quality, streaming is a disaster, as proven with R18.

argyle43

Punksxc Fanza/DMM/R18 is not a JAV studio. It’s more like a massive shopping mall of JAV studios. MOODYZ, SOD, S1, Hunter, KMP… all those major studios and so many more maintain storefronts on those sites. Like @ZENRA said, buying all of that as a catalogue would amount to thousands upon thousand upon thousands of titles. It’s beyond comprehension.

Punksxc

argyle43 read roccovr comment as quote 'buys out one of these Japanese studios' which I was replying to - in regards of RoccoVR talking about a studio alternative to R18. Did you just write without reading roccovr comment and mine?

argyle43

Punksxc I guess I did, or I didn’t read closely enough. My bad.✌🏻

RoccoVR

argyle43
"Saw this earlier today. I’ve got 120 titles I’ve purchased over the last 8 years"

I know this might be a lot to ask but could you list the 120 titles you purchased and could someone on SLR team check to see which titles are on SLR and provide links to all. :

argyle43

RoccoVR could you list the 120 titles you purchased

oh, they weren’t VR. R18 never made it easy enough to watch VR for me to even bother trying. SLR is the studio that did that for those of us outside Japan.

All my content is will soon to have been 2D, and mostly from 2010-2016 … my pre-VR days. Not the best quality resolution wise, but man that was JAV at its heights. Incredible women, and so very very many of them, and the shit they would do 🥴

and the doubly mind-blowing thing was there was only like ten dudes in the business living out the dream amongst the throngs and throngs and throngs of perfect tens. Just insane. so sad to see the ending of that era.

RoccoVR

Before their site goes down, could someone please share out a list of your favorite JAV VR scenes on there and could someone on SLR team check to see what all is on SLR and provide links.

Natch

RoccoVR I have bought 30 or 40 JAV VRs at R18, but they are not in SLR because they are R18/Fanza/DMM exclusive titles. They are nowhere else. From studios such as S1 Style No 1, Premium, Madonna VR, Unfinished VR, Idea Pocket, Kawaii VR, E-Body VR, Moodyz VR...

The best JAV VR studios, by far, are Fanza/R18 exclusive. The only exception is SOD VR, which can be found here (but not the latest titles) and in other stores.

ZENRA

argyle43 Everyone wants to be a JAV actor, but nobody wants to get paid peanuts, have to show their face, face potential lifelong stigmatization, and many a time leave sets with blue balls because those creampies are very often staged (extremely obvious when this is done).

Punksxc

ZENRA how much are JAV actors paid?

mebejoe

[deleted] When the American dollar ceases to be a standard currency, and this change is on its way, there will be a whole tonne of suffering all around the globe.

There's a whole lot of suffering all around the globe now. And that's gonna get worse, unfortunately.

But the US dollar ain't goin stop being the standard currency in my lifetime. Nothing's forever, but there's no replacement right now.

Porn is such a small percentage of all the transactions in the world, which is why the CC companies don't really care if they lose it.

Polar

Porn is such a small percentage of all the transactions in the world, which is why the CC companies don't really care if they lose it.

I was at a legal panel recently when the speaker gave the following statistic.

"Walmart, in the USA, in a single day, processes a higher value of credit card transactions than the entire adult industry worldwide does in an entire year."

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mebejoe But the US dollar ain't goin stop being the standard currency in my lifetime.

Not to get political, but the fall of America as an international power is pretty much inevitable at this point. All the conditions are right, but it is true that these matters seldom occur as suddenly as, say, the response to COVID-19.

Add to your reading list this classic, which was for many years a foundational text (albeit in excerpt) of the American public education system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_the_Decline_and_Fall_of_the_Roman_Empire

But back on topic, and not unrelated to barbarism and moral decline, I hope more of the R18 back-catalogue migrates to SLR.

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