Doggy Style Screenshots for Alex Nash

spacepirate

its been his worst position for a long time... the camera always feels too far forward and girl is never positioned right. gotta be head down ass up so you can see the penetration and have camera closer to the body and not in front of it like a giraffe. the girl doesnt have to be on the ground either... you can do it like badoink does with the girl kneeling with legs spread on a table.

next worst nash position for me is the seated cowgirl. when the girl gets too close to the camera and all i can see is her stomach a few inches from my face and nothing else it kinda sucks. the girl doesnt have to be that close man... perfect would be a little bit further away so her face and body can be better seen

the rest are good

petermc

spacepirate I’m not crazy about the badoink massage table stuff but yeah, as long as the table is not too high. I don’t like it when the girl is practically having to do the splits to get her ass low enough to fuck. It still should be up in the air. A low bench or something is fine, doesn’t have to be on the floor like you say. I wouldn’t complain if it is on the floor though!

petermc

innol I don’t know how to screenshot from a scene. These are just images from Google from POV scenes. VR on a flat screen never really looks the same as what you see in the headset anyway so it wouldn’t really demonstrate anything.

innol

petermc Can zoom and tilt function help with this problem?

spacepirate

petermc

innol I use the tilt function of course but that doesn’t change the actual fixed camera position. Because the camera is too far forward, you have to tilt it backwards on yourself to see the action and that means you can’t see the penetration. You can see the dick moving back and forth but you can’t see what it’s going into.

If you think about close up missionary when the camera is right on the girl’s face up close, if you want to see the penetration, you have to tilt the camera all the way backwards to see anything. The way SLRO shoot doggy style isn’t to that extreme but you still have to look backwards and that’s the issue (for me at least) because then the actual penetration is blocked out as the girls ass is in the way. If the fixed camera position is a fraction behind the girl’s ass, there’s nothing blocking the view of the penetration and you get a great view of her ass too if she gets into a good doggy position to accentuate it.

petermc

There’s actually a perfect example of the difference in two scenes today. If you watch doggy style on the Sexbabesvr scene ‘Purely Temptatious’ (especially the first doggy section but both are decent) you can see the penetration clearly and Katy’s ass looks amazing, pushed up with the arched back.

If you then watch doggy on the Lustreality scene ‘Anal Housemaid’ you can’t see what hole the guy is in and the girl looks like a sack of potatoes because of the poor position she is in.

innol

petermc How do you think the doggy style in Vrbangers? l think it's shot as you described

alexnash

Hi, I hear you guys, thank you for the images and explanations, that helps me to figure out on the ideal camera positioning you are looking for. As I mentioned earlier sometimes the circumstances are on the way to make some positions ideal. Locations can be difficult, talent and camera positioning depending on reflections, lighting, shadows and timing. Will do my best to make it happen for next scenes. Thank you for you feedback, always happy to do whatever I can to make our VR scenes as great as it can be ✊✊

ibins

petermc Note how the camera is behind the girls ass and she is pointing it up to the camera so you can see the holes and the penetration.

Which makes absolutely no sense in VR.
IRL in doggy you bend over her back and that´s also where the camera should be, and while I absolutely agree many scenes are way too close, especially much too low in camera height, the camera never ever should be behind her during sex, maybe on some interaction before the sex.

This is VR porn, and the goal of VR is not to place the holes in the perfect view, but to make the sex as real as possible (kinda SexLikeReal), and unless you are performing oral in reality your eyes and therefore your view, are not near her holes.
Your dick is near her holes and your dick does not have eyes.

If you want porn that focuses mainly on the holes, watch regular porn, not VR, there is plenty of it out there and most of it has the main focus on the penetration.

In fact much of the VR porn still focuses way too much on the holes, with camera positions like your head is mounted on your stomach or your chest, instead of your neck.

rerun119

ibins I agree completely with all of this

petermc

ibins we’ll have to agree to disagree on what the goal of VR porn is, I’m not sure you get to decide that. Porn is not, and never has been, supposed to represent real life sex, it’s a fantasy. If we were watching real life sex, there wouldn’t be a blowjob on every scene, it would be boring as hell and probably be over in a matter of minutes.

Not everyone leans over the girl in doggy style, some like to actually watch themselves going in and out of the girl’s pussy and/or ass so they are more upright and therefore fractionally behind the girl.

I’m not advocating for close ups, I’m totally against anything which takes away from realistic distances. It is porn though at the end of the day and porn is supposed to be graphic, you’re supposed to be able to see the penetration or it’s just softcore porn. The other positions give you your intimacy with your close up missionary and cowgirl and you still get to see the penetration anyway. Doggy style is more animalistic, more about straight up fucking than intimate love making, especially in porn.

If you look at all the major VR porn studios, Wankz, POVR, Milfvr, Lethal Hardcore, VRBangers, Czechvr, virtualtaboo, Darkroom etc. they all shoot doggy from behind the girl. I guess they must all be wrong and missing the goal of VR porn even though they’re the people that actually make VR porn.

jacky68

petermc we’ll have to agree to disagree on what the goal of VR porn is, I’m not sure you get to decide that. Porn is not, and never has been, supposed to represent real life sex, it’s a fantasy. If we were watching real life sex, there wouldn’t be a blowjob on every scene, it would be boring as hell and probably be over in a matter of minutes.

Not everyone leans over the girl in doggy style, some like to actually watch themselves going in and out of the girl’s pussy and/or ass so they are more upright and therefore fractionally behind the girl.

I’m not advocating for close ups, I’m totally against anything which takes away from realistic distances. It is porn though at the end of the day and porn is supposed to be graphic, you’re supposed to be able to see the penetration or it’s just softcore porn. The other positions give you your intimacy with your close up missionary and cowgirl and you still get to see the penetration anyway. Doggy style is more animalistic, more about straight up fucking than intimate love making, especially in porn.

If you look at all the major VR porn studios, Wankz, POVR, Milfvr, Lethal Hardcore, VRBangers, Czechvr, virtualtaboo, Darkroom etc. they all shoot doggy from behind the girl. I guess they must all be wrong and missing the goal of VR porn even though they’re the people that actually make VR porn.

This is another opinion, but I agree with this

ibins

petermc If you look at all the major VR porn studios, Wankz, POVR, Milfvr, Lethal Hardcore, VRBangers, Czechvr, virtualtaboo, Darkroom etc. they all shoot doggy from behind the girl. I guess they must all be wrong and missing the goal of VR porn even though they’re the people that actually make VR porn.

The don´t at least not that I am aware of, of course I do not know every video of all this studios.
They shoot doggy from basically straight above the ass. Which while not my favorite position is OK. It is completely valid not to be bend over.
You are advocating shooting from behind, them which is a no go because it would mean that you are actually bending backwards away from her, which would look totally awkward in first person POV.
This is especially true if parts of the male actor are in the main focus area, like you want it for the penetration. Having the male actor to awkwardly bend his body is generally OK, but only if it is for the goal to make room for the camera to be placed in a "normal" POV, and only if it is a position where the general focus shows not much of the males body.

Most of your examples show how to not do it.
The first one is good, camera is right above the ass, looks natural.
Second one is exactly as awkward as described, with him bending away from her.
3 and 4 are way too close and therefore show massive perspective distortion and are pretty much useless for any reference of camera position.

petermc It is porn though at the end of the day and porn is supposed to be graphic, you’re supposed to be able to see the penetration or it’s just softcore porn.

Even in hardcore you do not have to position the penetration in the center all of the time.
It is not that the penetration is hidden or anything, it is still inside your FOV just not on the center but on the sides, if you shoot in the correct position.

petermc

innol when they do it, it’s usually pretty good.

TheKing7878

I fully agree with petermc. I don't know how anyone would prefer staning doggystyle visually, and I don't know how anyone could think standing doggystyle is more "realistic". I have literally never done standing doggystyle in real life but do normal doggystyle all the time. And everytime I do, the girl is on the bed, on all fours, ass in the air, and I have a clear view of her pussy/asshole. And given that doggystyle is consistently ranked as the most or second most popular sex position overall, I don't know why it is not in every VR scene.

innol

ibins You are a genius we are feeling it now watching it. shooting doggy with male actor leaning back is not a good choice . the camera should place right above the ass，that's the view angle in real life

petermc

ibins cool, I don’t think we are too far off then in our thinking. The first one, I’d argue is still fractionally behind but that’s the angle I’d be happy with. That’s the view you’d see if you were upright having doggy style sex.

The way they often shoot it on SLR just means that the penetration is not in your FOV as you have to look backwards to see it and the girls ass then blocks the view.

Like I said, I’m not looking to turn this into 2d porn and zoom in on the penetration or anything. I want it to feel like I’m in the room having sex with the girl so the distance has to be there. I just want the option of tilting the camera down and seeing “myself” inside the the girl and that first picture shows that. The others are more exaggerated sure but was really just to demonstrate the whole ass in the air pointing up to camera so we can see what’s happening and also because it accentuates the shape of her ass too.

petermc

I have to give credit where it’s due. The doggy style in the new Bunny/Slimthick scene looks pretty good. Not sure what changed but hopefully it continues more like this.

innol

petermc it's Alex work?

petermc

innol I think so yes.

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