Guns vs Porn

Rakly3

ApolloSLR And I would quit if SLR did something fishy. So there's that.
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I'm sure you do, and I'd hate to think that my message suggests otherwise.

The ExploitedX Scandal, which circulated on Reddit and now remains a key topic of conversation on many boards, had nothing to do with the consent for creating porn but the sloppy practices of those who make porn. Without going into the details you will see that certain companies, for a period of upwards of ten years, included some very unfortunate metadata in the EXIF of their videos. This is a problem for all companies that allow for videos to be downloaded directly. To the extent that I've checked, SLR remains perfect, although you should tell your studios about EXIF for reasons of due diligence.

Without going into full details, take any of the videos from BackroomCastingCouch, ExploitedCollegeGirls, or BlackAmbush and drag the video (downloaded from their site legally before Feb. 2021) and open it with the software from EXIFtool.org. These companies, it has been alleged, were encouraging fan-made mashups for a reason (to encourage re-subscription for access to the exclusive metadata). Google linked the data, as someone of Reddit alleged, to visual biometric data, thus opening a loophole to subpoena Google's algorithm.

Punksxc

doublevr credit cards really should mind there own business. At this point it would do the world a favor, to have a porn company making a credit card. Sex industry is one of the most profitable industries, in the world. I would have no shame with a credit card having pornstar company, visible on the card itself.

If any porn company put a card idea on kickstarter app, you would be funded in one day I think.

ZENRA

Punksxc The cost to make one's own credit card processing network would be beyond the budget of any porn company or even all of them working together. It makes a lot more sense for the industry to focus on alternative payments that can be simplified enough for the casual user which is something continuously happening.

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Setting aside EXIF and all, there will be complaints no matter how good you are. The number will be proportionately small but all you need is one to lose a business. Again, look at GirlsDoPorn. They shot and published 544 main videos, 26 deleted scenes, 165 solo scenes, and countless BTS episodes. Many women had positive experiences: one even made a Youtube video about how they were the first guys to ever treat her nicely. They were sued by approximately 22 women and many women made complaints following the award of more than 12 million to the complainants.

Credit card companies don't impose their values but rather play the odds, and the odds are that most companies of an adult nature will be shut down either through legal action or threats thereof. That's why Facebook, and King Douche Zuckerfuck, silently support, but don't officially accept, porn as the main use of their headsets. More folks use Meta products for porn than the stupid games available on their store, and they know the metrics.

Punksxc

[deleted] GirlsDoPorn is a real bad example of complaints. Girlsdoporn but short I will call it GDP: GDP said to the girl performers 'no footage would shown anywhere except australia and New Zealand' - but the performers co workers immediately recognised them - cause the footage was on a website 'on show and available' to america'

Porn casting studios are liable to be honest on where the session is shown, by agreements with performers. GDP had given false information, so no comparison

Got another example except corrupt GDP? Castingcouchteens, Hustler casting, Brazzer casting, castingcouchx all follow procedure.

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Read the thread in answer to your query.

One of their scams, allegedly, was to say that they were distributing on DVD only. But really the evidence for that, if you read the case files, which were posted to Reddit, is a Facetime call and a statement from a contract employee of theirs. The take-away from the case is that all porn companies need to state the name of their site in the contract materials, rather than dummy companies, and to give the contract to the model at the start of the negotiations. Also, only work with local models or models insured through an agency so that the agency will cover any last-minute changes of heart.

Punksxc

[deleted] the testimony from the victims were that the footage was, never to be distributed or available by any means to america - the dvd part would make sense.

GDP is just a porn site made by some guys lieing to women. No big porn names of directors or famous male performers backing GDP.

Take CastingCouchTeen which is the same start up except no blackmailing, no lieing, had some famous male performers, no lawsuits from women. I will call CastingCouchTeens as CCT. CCT did not get lawsuits or complaints and stayed in business till the people moved on. Difference between CCT and GDP is ethical communication. CCT didn't like to female performers, as every other official porn casting studio. GDP is an insult to the porn industry shady people, blackmailing women in a hotel - which is another part of the lawsuit.

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I'm probably wasting my breath here, but this used to be a matter of standard education in America and remains so in most poor colonial countries like my own.

There is a difference between testimony and other forms of evidence because of the credibility of the witnesses (or perceived credibility). Who knows what happened; we only know what witnesses / victims say happened. A preponderance of circumstantial evidence supports the 22 of 544 women of GDP, just as it would any porn company whereof allegations are made. Setting aside the small amount of empirical evidence, in the form of recordings and saved conversations, pornographers have a profession, and their profession involves making money from women often at impressionable ages, many of whom can claim to be duped, no matter what actually happened (it's called regrets). Testimony is evidence, but evidence that depends on shared societal expectations. Most judges, like Credit Card companies, don't trust pornographers or anyone who shoots porn, because they'd rather that porn does not exist (to be a judge often requires marriage and a Christian upbringing and a projected moral code in the conduct of day-to-day activities). The Goodies and the Baddies are one and the same because their objection is to the law that allows porn, not how porn companies practice their trade.

Enough witnesses saw Travis Walton abducted by aliens to convict a murderer in a court of law. What's the value of their testimony based on social expectations and norms?
Many thousands of witnesses have testified to brazen cheating in the last American election (under oath and threat of perjury!). Nothing will ever be done about it.
Was Amber Heard a credible witness? While testimony is evidence its value is underpinned by social expectations and norms.

Stonedbanana

We also need to take into account that the gun purchase policy is from VISA, but the scrutiny placed on the porn industry is from MasterCard and VISA just followed suit as they've always done. While I am frustrated by the abject morality involved the impetus against porn production is with MasterCard.

BeltManFen

First off can we stop with the politics on a porn forum? I’m also tired of people without guns talking about then. Even without visa to buy a gun legally from a store in my state. You have to submit to an fbi background Check, and sign a form that if you lie on you’re going to federal prison and becoming a felon. This form says I am not a felon, I am not a drug user, I have never been committed due to mental instability. You have to agree too each of these individually because if you’re lying about any one of these things it counts as a felony. I’m sick of people comparing everything to guns. A gun is a tool of protection ,to get food, to fight yours or other’s governments when they put their boot on your fucking neck. I’ve had bullets shot into my house,watched a lone gunman fire into a crowd from my front window, and opened my door to a stranger who’d been shot just looking for anyone to help them. Not once did I think wow if only there were stricter gun laws. Because these people don’t go to stores buy their tools of murder. I grew up in and now live in an area where I’m glad every day when I wake up that I own a gun that is legal so when the types of villains that plagued my childhood decide they want what’s mine I can now fight back. Fuck porn you can jerk off with your imagination. When monsters are at your door you too have to become a monsters to meet their ferocity. Stop with all the gun comparison to mundane bullshit because one day we’re all going to wish we had then for one reason or another and when that time comes I hope we’re not more concerned with jerking off. The climate is unrecoverable, the global economy is in shambles, and we’re at the brink of global war when this time everyone involved will have nukes. Lets keep the porn forum about porn.

mebejoe

BeltManFen First off can we stop with the politics on a porn forum?

Funny how I read the first 19 comments without thinking this thread was about politics. I thought it was about an issue that may be vital to the survival of SLR--whether credit card companies will continue to process payments for SLR (and other porn sites).

But to be forthright, I'm wrong about a lot of things a lot of times, so maybe this thread was about politics.

petermc

BeltManFen no one made this political until you did. I don’t get American’s obsession with guns and the whole world has seen that they get into the hands of the wrong people whatever your FBI background checks are. No other peacetime country in the world has people living in so much fear that they feel that they need guns to protect themselves in their homes or out on the street. We just get on with our lives and don’t have to worry about people shouting up schools or cinemas/clubs because virtually no one has a gun.

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I don't live in America. I live under a socialist dictator where guns aren't allowed. But if I did live in America I'd feel safer with someone like you carrying a gun. Just don't let it be stolen or let it be played with by kids. And use it to protect everybody when the police take 30 min to respond if you ever encounter a lunatic madman going on a shooting spreed. Owning a gun is the responsibility of keeping it safe and keeping others safe with it. Peace through war.

BeltManFen

[deleted] I appreciate your reply. We live in a world full of cowards that would rather let others hold their lives in their hands than empower themselves and their countrymen. It reminds me of a story I heard the other day about how a bus full of people in japan let one teenager with a butcher knife hijack the bus stab two women to death and mutilate another. Why? Someone else was surely coming to save them and that mindset is poison.

spacepirate

no one is coming to take your precious guns dude

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They will. Authoritarian regimes want ALL the power. When you disagree with fake election results they need the means to stop you from protesting. Just look at Justin Trudeau, he knows how to do it. Designate your political enemies as dissidents, make their views illegal, take their money, and then take their guns (in the case of Canada, very very few guns) ...

For the record, many of the GDP women were rabid Trump supporters and even posed with him, but the big scandal (which no journalist would touch) was the Bernie Sanders connection, since one of the GDP models was literally his spokes-model in a viral video.

BeltManFen

petermc Comparing what’s okay for guns vs porn is objectively political. It implies “guns hurt people, but they don’t get tried as bad as us.” It’s no different than the “guns have more rights than women” bullshit that came up after roe v wade.

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America has many mass shootings not because America has their second amendment but because their politicians are either completely corrupt or very stupid. They don't punish gangsters caught with vast arsenals of illegal guns yet go after Joe Sunday school teacher with a gun in the bedroom dresser in case he is confronted by a burglar. They let teenage dropouts with an extensive history of psychopathic animal torture spend more than $2,000 for an advanced firearm online while going after law abiding farmers in the midwest that keep a shotgun or 22 caliber to fend the hen house from foxes.

America is the only country working hard to create harsher laws against crime while employing prosecutors who refuse to prosecute or enforce even the craziest and most dangerous offenses imaginable. Back to the topic at hand. Got a machete and feel the urge to bust up a local food joint? In America, no problem: get out of jail free. Run a porn company where 20-something aged women have consensual sex to entertain the desperate middle classes? You'll have more problems with the credit card companies than the president's son after a weekend binge with a room full of hookers at Chateau Marmont.

They want you talking about guns and abortion so you aren't thinking about record-breaking inflation, an impending gas shortage (because America just used most of their strategic reserve), rolling blackouts in the only state to forbid gas powered lawnmowers, a supply chain crises that has just added $100 to Quest 2 (and may eliminate safe drinking water in minority communities), massive spikes in violent crime (including unsolved homicides), the arrival of 2 million undocumented migrants since 2021 (including convicts purposefully released from prison to destroy America), shocking irregularities in your last election (which crazy old Trump was actually able to prove "determinative" to his supporters), the reality that wind farms and solar panels are less environmentally sound than mini-nuclear, American's loss of over 85 billion dollars of weapons in Afghanistan (including military bases now operated by China), and the inevitable breadlines that are to come in the months ahead.

petermc

It wasn’t comparing guns and porn it was making note of what VISA said in relation to guns. That basically it’s not up to them or any private company to be moral arbiters and decide what legal products and services people can and cannot buy. That sounds great right? Except when it comes to porn, that stance doesn’t seem to apply, they absolutely do make moral judgements on what legal content porn studios are allowed to sell.

No one was saying guns are bad and porn is good, just poking fun at the clear untruths being said in that statement. It could have been any product they were talking about, it just happened to be guns in this case.

mebejoe

What he said

petermc t wasn’t comparing guns and porn it was making note of what VISA said in relation to guns. That basically it’s not up to them or any private company to be moral arbiters and decide what legal products and services people can and cannot buy. That sounds great right? Except when it comes to porn, that stance doesn’t seem to apply, they absolutely do make moral judgements on what legal content porn studios are allowed to sell.

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