dojimmy Prior to Monica's arrival a normal seesion I would typically edge for an hour sometimes 2 or longer, so far ive not made it past half hour before im done.
Lol it got to real! 
Sex Dolls vs VR Porn
Vrsumo2017 check out sexdolltorso.com
Their products are top of the line.
...it's a bit like tank design, the more weight the more power, but you lose manoeuvrability. My doll weighs well over 100lbs, so plenty of oof when i need it, lots to grab, and she can pin me down if necessary. In that context she works well as an adjunct to the Handy or Serious Kit, she provides all the kinaesthetic stimulation i need, but is somewhat useless as a 'throw-around'. To be fair, she's more 'emotional support mannequin' than 'sex doll' these days... xD
Another pro tip, when it comes to cleaning, get an aquarium pump and a length of airline.
Once you've cleaned your doll / torso / fleshlight / onahole / wtvr, feed the airline as far inside as you can, switch the pump on, and leave it for a few hours. The constant airflow dries it out, and the oxygen prevents anaerobic bacteria from forming. Can be used for long term storage as well.
Bonus effect: wet fuck sleeve plus airflow equals Slaanesh style musical instrument...
InfiniteFun Which doll do you have that weighs so much? Which website did you order from?
I'm in Europe and I want to have the doll delivered to a relay point but I can't find a site that delivers to a relay point....
RustySchaklefurd it is possible to delivery product in relay point ? For Europe
@Shonoka send them an email with any questions. Their customer service is fantastic.
So far, I’ve purchased a Fleshlight "Kira," a random amazon $100 20-inch torso with tits, and the cheapest Tantaly doll to test out their product. In terms of tactile experience, the Fleshlight is superior imo, It has a great texture and features adjustable suction by turning the lid at the back, which enhances the overall experience. And imo it makes your dick feel bigger fucking the fleshlight. 
The $100 torso offers good value for the price and is quite enjoyable for the price I was really amazed because it was a random off amazon and cheap, hell! if it dont last it only cost 100$, cant beat that! The Tantaly doll, though similarly priced, has a more premium feel to its material. The higher quality is evident when handling it, as it feels more durable and less prone to damage, possibly due to its smaller size.
However, I did notice that the fit of the Tantaly doll is a bit loose. Observations from usage videos i think confirm this, as the sound of penatration suggests a less snug fit. Although some models are said to be tighter than others, finding the perfect fit can become costly due to the trial and error involved in the process. Especially if you buying a tantaly.
Overall, while the Fleshlight provides the best feel, the Tantaly doll stands out for its material quality, making each product unique in its strengths.
Lol and yes these torsos do make you wanna cum faster, 
The shit we do, fucking pervs lol SMH
...she's one of the innumerable copies of the 'Ryan Davis' Big Butt doll, the model was very popular a few years ago, was all over main stream media. There are several manufactures that make them to those specifications, everyone copies each other.
i ordered the first one from Lucidtoys.uk, who import direct, so cheap and convenient. i was initially too savage with the cleaning (i think), and managed to get water into the skeleton, and the joints rusted up after a couple of years. Ordered an expensive 'lightweight' version (where they replace some of the TPE with foam) direct from WM, but she felt all wrong, no jiggle. So i ordered another body from the original group, and have been very happy ever since. This is their EU outlet, and the model of doll:
Weirdly, i think they might be discontinuing her, as all the links to the original Big Butt range have disappeared from the UK website, and the link above is the only version on the EU one. As they have stock in the country, they might be easier to arrange a 'relay point' delivery with than one based in China...
InfiniteFun OK, thank you very much for these models!
Quick question. I'd like to be able to hide the sexdoll at home easily so that my wife doesn't find it. Are these sexdolls easy to handle? Foldable? Compact? To hide in a drawer for example?
Vrsumo2017 Yeah well, the VR in my head still works lol. Was a bottom, don't remember the name srry. Wonder why my original post got deleted tho.
Shonoka ...owning an overweight sex doll is good practise for being a serial killer, or working in a morgue. You're literally trying to hide a dead body when it comes to logistics, at 163cm and 49kg, she's basically a human, but utterly dead weight. No carry handle, no obvious centre of mass, and must be stored in a sympathetic way, lying down in her box, or hanging in a cupboard from a neck hanger. Plus all the other ancillary faff, heating, cleaning, etc.
i can't, in all honesty, recommend a full sized doll if you're having to play hide and go fuck with her, unless you have a private man cave with a hoist (more serial killer vibes...), and lots of free time. Obviously i don't know your situation, but if you're looking to hide her in a draw, maybe one of the torsos would be better? If i was looking to get into the market these days, i'd definitely start there. Much more convenient.
Of course if you fall down the wrong rabbit hole in your head you might develop agalmatophilia, then you can kiss your wife goodbye, but i guarantee you will live happily ever after...x
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InfiniteFun owning an overweight sex doll is good practise for being a serial killer,
Lol omg, that's as far as I got and busted out lol 
Joe Rogan said he'd use em for jujitsu
I found a interesting discussion
Lol, he said "it's game over"
InfiniteFun Yes, that's a good idea! I'm thinking of buying a 20 kilogram torso from sexdollstorso.com.
It's safer! I hope I won't be disappointed by the immersion!
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Vrsumo2017 ...they should put me on Joe Rogan.
What they fail to note is there are already sex dolls with sucking vaginas, breathing mechanisms, oral sex functions, self heating, and even full hip wiggly movement thing. There's the whole fuck machine community, with scripts, multiple axis machines, suction, and devices for every genital and orifice imaginable. And don't even get me started on the 'alien, anime' crowd, "Wanna fuck Yog-Sothoth? Then step into my seven tentacled fuck machine..!", etc. And of course, there's the actual real robots, made by Boston Dynamic and the like, where the hard work of making something walk around the living room without accidentally KILLING you happens. And the android technicians, trying to cross the uncanny valley, and win the Turing Test.
Several different groups, all working on different aspects of an actual sex robot. If NASA wanted to sink two or three billion in the project, and bravely go where no man has gone before, we'd see sex robots within five years. The tech is almost there, the full integration needs serious funding. As i can't see any country nationalizing the sex robot industry just yet, i imagine we're gonna have to wait a bit longer than five years. Though there will be luxury 'Art' pieces, kinetic, robotic, fuckable sculptures for rich people, and so many fuck machines and weird sex dolls before then that you might not even care!
But yea.... one day.... the sex robots are coming...
xD
InfiniteFun yeah bro, they way they talk was like it's in the near future and I'm just like "ITS HERE NOW"!!! 
InfiniteFun the sex robots are coming.
I imagine first sex robot will just assume positioning by saying commands like missionary, spread legs, doggy position. Make boobs bounce, cum with me, lol
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No way! For those of you who use torso dolls with VR, this is what you've been experiencing! Holy HELL!
I finally got to spend some time with my second purchase. Initially, I thought my 20-inch, 20-pound torso would be too much for certain positions like laying cg rcg, but this smaller Tantaly model worked amazingly with VR. It's very convenient, easy to store, and easy to clean. With VR, it's awesome! It even enhances the overall experience, even though I'm usually edging off when watching VR content. Normally, I skip through many scenes edging to them, but this smaller model just makes the experience more engaging and it makes me want to pop quiker! especially when going along with the VR sex. I felt like the interactions were very realistic.
With the pass-through feature, I had quite an experience. I accidentally tilted it up the video and thought, "When did i start making pov fucking torso?" So I ended up watching myself with the VR floating over me. It was hilarious! But fun too!
OMG, seriously!
If you're considering getting a torso doll for VR purposes, my advice is to stay single. Lol, Seriously though, if you're thinking about it but don't want to spend too much, go for one of the smaller Tantaly models. They're of good quality and feel great. Plus, they're cheaper. They have models like Selena, Dita, and Scarlet, all at very good prices and perfect sizes for VR. And u can find promo codes off reviews on pH or xvids, think they have a sale right now on their site.
Next I gotta test drive this 20inch 20pounder with tits, when i get sum time, damn thing already sticky, need to buy powder.
Will powder be ok for tpe, like baby powder?
What's the difference between baby powder and say tantaly powder, tantaly say it will make it feel like real skin again. Will that be the same with baby powder.??
But wow, I’m really glad I got to experience this. I never thought I would get a doll, but somehow it happen! It’s amazing how things worked out. I had always been curious about what it would be like, but I never imagined I’d actually go through with getting one. Now that I have, I can honestly say it exceeded all my expectations. The combination of the torso doll with VR is incredible. It’s as if I manifested this experience out of sheer curiosity and interest, and I’m thrilled with the results. lol
The shit we do , pervs! lol
Now only if can manifest a million dollar jack pot winning or a million just falls into my hands, that be great 
lol
I'll be ordering mine soon!
I'm going to buy this :
https://www.sexdolltorso.com/products/doris-jiggly-big-round-gel-ass-torso/
What do you think for a first time with a sex doll ?
I have to hide it so it's better than taking a whole body.