This guy does it for games--can it be done for videos?

mebejoe

I've always thought there would be a way to modify flat videos (using AI?) to make them VR videos. This guy does it for games.

https://www.theverge.com/23190201/luke-ross-vr-real-mod-gta-v-elden-ring-horizon-red-dead

Wondershare makes an app that will convert flat 2D to flat 3D.

Topaz makes an AI that upconverts lower rez videos to higher rez. I've used it it works pretty well.

You'd think somebody could make an app that converts flat videos to VR.

Also one that removes pixilation from JAV.

I'd pay at least $100 to $200 for such an app. I bet others would as well.

justsomedude101

mebejoe It's important to note that with games it's distinctly different than with videos. Games are already set in a 3d enviroment with 6dof and FAR more data, so all you're really adjusting is the camera position within that 3d space. Oversimplifying here, but that's the basic gist.

This is not to say that something couldn't be done with 2d videos to artificially give them some form of "3d" component. Only saying that the comparison would be pretty rough compared to what can be done with video games.

petermc

mebejoe I don’t think they’re allowed to remove pixellation from JAV scenes. They actually add pixellation to some scenes. There is a thread on here where that is discussed. It’s basically illegal to show this stuff unpixellated and could lead to repurcussions for the performers in Japan if they are performer in unpixellated scenes.

It’s nuts though that Japan has some of the most extreme crazy porn out there including scat and vomit porn but they think people would be corrupted by seeing an unpixellated dick.

ibins

mebejoe ou'd think somebody could make an app that converts flat videos to VR.

No for that to work the flat videos must have been shot with an 180° fisheye lens, which should be pretty rare.
Games have a full 3D worldspace, while normal videos are not just limited to 2D but also limited to the FoV they are shot in.
While it is probably doable to convert them to 3D, there is no way to add the missing information on the sides.

mebejoe Also one that removes pixilation from JAV.

This seems to be much more viable. Actually it should be way easier then what deepfake does for faces

BeltManFen

petermc This is why instead of licensing more jav scenes I wish they would just hire some jav pornstars and directors. There is literally zero point to a facesitting scene, or a girl spreading her pixels in your face. Yet I've seen a dozen vr scenes that are exactly that.

mebejoe

No, THEY (SLR) aren't allowed to modify them. But if a person has the app and pays for and downloads a video and processes it himself with the app, and uses the video for just personal use, that is not illegal.

I'd pay up to the price of a VR headset for an app that could convert flat videos to a reasonable imitation of VR or remove pixilation from JAV VR videos (I think they have it already for flat videos, but I'm not interested in that.

petermc

BeltManFen I agree with you, I don’t watch JAV porn because of the pixels. I’d love to see some of their style of porn uncensored.

I think the argument was though that Japanese pornstars are not allowed to appear in unpixellated porn, even if they film it outside of Japan, so I’m not sure they could do what you are suggesting. I don’t have any real knowledge of this though, I’m just relaying what has been said in other threads.

abel906

I actually tried some 2d to 3d conversions myself a couple of years ago with reasonable (but incredibly slow) results (that was using a google colab that built a depth map for each frame and then created an image for each eye, similar to this ).

I tried wondershare 2d to 3d after seeing this post as I was curious. I'm not sure, but I think it might just be delaying one frame (similar to this). It seems that it could work ok, with some lateral movement in the scene, but I didn't get any good results with what I tried.

Some parts of extending this to VR might be possible, but I don't know of any research that's been done. In theory, it should be possible to stitch a load of frames together and build up a 3d environment in which the scene takes place. That should be the 'easy' part. The major issue I see with that is that you don't know if anything outside of the current 2d frame is moving. As the camera pans down to the girl's pussy, her upper body would freeze in place without some way of predicting how it's moving.

TLDR: I think 2d to 3d is the realistic limit atm, but even those can work well in VR with a well selected scene. I might try looking at this again in case there's anything faster out there now...

mebejoe

I think the last time I tried a non-VR 2d to 3d conversion was when I had a 1060 GPU and an i5 processor. and 8 gigs of RAM And yes, it was slow. Now I have a 3080, an i9 processor, and 32 gigs of RAM. Plus a pretty large SSD instead of a HD. I bet it would be a lot faster now.

wmfewmgkqoozlnzmnn

One way to overcome this problem is to do the other way around -- instead of removing pixilation from JAVs, we could use deep learning to make the western porn look like JAVs:

So, I am wondering -- is it possible that we could just record some uncensored videos with western actors and then use some deep learning technology to make them look like Japanese?

source: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/613-uncensored-japanese-videos/28

If you really want to remove pixilation from JAVs, removing it for personal use seems to be ok.

It’s worth noting that the legal problems the man faces don’t seem to include any for the actual video editing itself, only the acts of distributing and selling them, and had he kept the private part-showing videos he created private, he probably could have avoided any trouble with the law.

source: https://japantoday.com/category/crime/man-arrested-after-using-ai-to-'destroy'-censor-mosaics-in-japanese-adult-videos

So even though no companies would try to develop such technologies, you could definitely develop it by yourself. Maybe that's a good reason to start learning some deep learning! 😄

BeltManFen

petermc No that can't be the case because there are uncensored jav studios that are definitely Jav performers. What's actually the case is a lot of jav pornstars like their models,idols , and so on are likely under strict contracts. What you're thinking of is likely them breaking their contract. SLR has a few uncensored jav studies, but they're very small especially compared to SOD which makes of the bulk of the jav on the site. If they could form a western studio allowing some of the SOD girls to perform here it would likely not cause an issue as long as they aren't selling in japan or they're censored in japan.

wmfewmgkqoozlnzmnn

mebejoe I'd pay up to the price of a VR headset for an app

The question is whether selling such a app to remove pixilation is legal or not.

dango789

I watch 2d videos sometimes using fisheye mode. It's not perfect by any means but it does a decent job!

I'm sure someone with the technical know-how could use that as a foundation and make it look even more realistic.

mebejoe

You'd think, right? I sometimes do the same thing for flat/2d videos.

I would imagine that a powerful AI processor could look at a flat video frame by frame, predict what each side of a SBS VR video would have looked like if it had been a SBS instead of flat, and then render an image for each frame for each side.

Perhaps that takes way more processing power than is practical--I don't know. I'm not an engineer. And wouldn't be a commercial success.

wmfewmgkqoozlnzmnn

ibins there is no way to add the missing information on the sides.

I feel the deep learning models could probably just make up some plausible information and fill it in. It would not be the same as the real scene, but it would look fine.

However, this would require large scale training data that contain pairs of 2d & 3d NSFW videos, which aren't really available right now.