Jav porn has made me realize, Western reverse gangbangs aren't gangbangs.

BeltManFen

They're orgies, and I think the tags should reflect that. In a jav reverse gangbangs they're exactly that, the reverse of a traditional gangbang. Unless you're watching bisexual porn half the guys don't fuck off to the corner and jerk each other off, and kiss in the middle of a gangbang. They're all feeling on or getting felt on by the girl being gangbanged. This may seem long winded but my point is we need uncensored reverse gangbangs that are actually reverse gangbangs. All the girls crowded around kissing, licking, fondling the person being "gangbanged." Having a room with 12 naked girls is cool, but you end up staring at what's going on in the background more than whatever's happening to the person in pov. In Jav you're wondering what's going to happen next and it keeps you watching instead of skipping through . I don't speak Japanese, but having one girl whisper in your ear, another blowing you and , a third is licking your knees is hotter than watching ten girls have sex in the background. All this while forgetting they're supposed to be blowing you and they switch out like musical chairs. That's not a gangbang that's an orgy.

TL;DR we need reverse gangbangs that actually focus on the person that's supposed to be getting gangbanged. Please, and thank you.

mebejoe

I agree with you. I want all the attention on me!

And I know that a lot of other users will disagree with you.

LordCrash

BeltManFen None of the scenes released here are actually orgies...

And what are we even speaking about? The 3 harem scenes that SLRO released so far? LOL...

argyle43

While I agree with 80% of your post, I disagree that we can’t have all the up close attention you specified and also get some lesbian action that includes eye contact from the girls while they’re kissing and squeezing each other. It’s all part of their efforts to get our attention and make us want them next. In other words the girls enjoying giving us a show.

BeltManFen

argyle43 That's the thing that's not a gangbang. Im not against that but that's a different category like a 3way/4way or orgy if everyone is breaking off into groups.Yet 90% of the reverse gangbang section is that. While the stuff like jav isn't even connected to the search engine and you have to go through a potential 400 pages to find.

BeltManFen

LordCrash Yes because those 3 scenes make up the 20+ pages worth of content tagged as reverse gangbangs. While there are over 400 pages of jav content at least that doesn't link to any of the keywords they are tagged with. In this case reverse gangbang. Are you being willfully ignorant? If you look at any video with the mentioned tag from western studios. It average 3way blowjob or there's zero interaction between the girls and the person being "gangbanged." My point has been made clear what is yours?

g2kbuffetboy

I agree with some points that the OP @BeltManFen is expressing, in that JAV reverse gangbangs are really impressive when it comes to the actresses unwavering attention on the male POV. I also do agree, for me personally, that what I look forward to most about "reverse gangbangs" is feeling like the center of attention, and having all the women around me licking me everywhere, or how I like to call "swarming" all around me. I love how in JAV reverse gangbangs, the women are constantly whispering in both ears, licking both of the guy's nipples, hovering above me (face sitting style), licking both sides of my face, etc. It's like a kaleidoscope of sensory overload. The immersion is quite powerful, and that's one thing JAV (both VR and non-VR) have been masters at for decades. Seriously decades.

However, I wouldn't say the "reverse gangbang" scenes we have here on SLR (whether it be SLROriginal harem scenes, or the several BGGGG+ scenes from other studios) aren't technically "reverse gangbangs" They just have a different direction style. I think the recent SLR harems (Euro 1, and Nash 1) do a really good job, ESPECIALLY because both scenes have 10+ women! Most JAV reverse gangbang scenes have 4 or 5. And actually if we're comparing that one, have you seen Nash's Asian Delight Royal Flush (with Alexia Anders)? That one is very POV centric and probably Nash's finest work when it comes to that centric "reverse gangbang" feeling.

Anyways, basically what I'm getting as is, I agree with you with your overall point when it comes to "reverse gangbang" preferences. I love total attention, and body worship, and constant stimulation of all erogenous zones (ears, nipples, neck, lips, balls, feet, lol and sure, knees too). But I think with SLR harems, if there are 10+ women, there have to be some women slightly outside on perimeter, and it makes perfect sense for them to be kissing each other, licking each other's tits, etc, while also still flirting for the attention of the male POV. Much better for all of them to be doing something, than for them to just be moaning (or worse yet, screaming and giggling lol).

Pinging @vrfanservice for awareness because I believe they will be filming the next SLR harem scene (WHICH I CANNOT WAIT FOR!) Any progress on that VRF?

BeltManFen

g2kbuffetboy I'm not even complaining about the SLR content. I'm saying that the content is inaccurately tagged. It's not the reverse of a gangbang. What the Japanese do is, and as such at the very least the search results should reflect that. Since it seems like the search engine completely ignores 99% of the tags on jav videos. Though I'd also love to see more western stuff that actually focuses on the person that's supposedly being gangbanged as the tag implies since it's not censored. You're wrong about one thing though there's plenty more the girls could be doing than just looking at each other. For example there's a jav video where one girl is rimming the dude,another is blowing him, two other girls are being fingered still by the dude and playing with their nipples. Another girl could be standing over the guy fingering herself. That's 5 things 5 different girls could be doing all acting on one person like a traditional gangbang. That's without getting into sucking the dudes nipples or anything that would obscure your view. Shoot you could have them all form a circle around the guy masturbating like a circle jerk or bukkake scene. Better yet imagine a Vr squirt bukkake. It's almost a waste to have all those girls there for what is essentially a one on one that's over an hour long where after a few minutes in you already know which girl is the most into it and you're probably just going to skip to her part. At least with me in jav I find myself whipping my head back and forth at all the different things the girls are doing. Not just as you said looking off at the one girl I'm interested in the corner that I just end up skipping to in the end.

g2kbuffetboy

BeltManFen You're wrong about one thing though there's plenty more the girls could be doing than just looking at each other.

I completely did not even say that lol. I said exactly what you are trying to vouch for... Please re-read.

I also mentioned a bevy of things women could be doing TO the male up to about 7-8 women. I'm saying after you get up to 10 women, some of them have to find other things to do that don't involve being right up in the viewer's grill.

Also, please read my thoughts on this topic here as well https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/2608-us-harem-2-suggestions-thread/72. I think you will find we're on the same page...

BeltManFen

g2kbuffetboy You misunderstood I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to better explain my point because people seem to think I'm complaining about the content when my issue is more with tagging and the search engine. I have no problem with any of the content I just think the site has tagging issues.

petermc

I’m not the biggest fan of the Harem scenes at all, partly I think for the reason you’re saying. For me, it’s too many girls at one time so, for a lot of the time most of them aren’t really involved too much. They’re hugely popular scenes though and lots of people love them so SLR should absolutely continue to make them.

Where I would disagree is your assessment regarding traditional gangbangs where it’s one girl with a bunch of guys. In those scenes, the girl can entertain maybe 4 or 5 guys at once (three holes and two hands) but, if you have more than that, they absolutely do come and go from the scene in many scenes I’ve watched. I can’t confirm that they are jerking each other off 😆 but people do disappear off camera (probably jerking themselves off to stay hard) and then come back in when it’s their turn to be involved. If you have 1 girl and 15 guys, all 15 guys are not onscreen for the whole scene. If it’s a blowbang, maybe they all stand around whilst she goes from dick to dick but not in a gang bang, not in my experience anyway. I’ll admit though my knowledge of JAV porn is fairly non-existent, my experience is US/UK/EU porn.

At the end of the day, most people see a gangbang as one girl having sex with a bunch of guys and a reverse gangbang would therefore be one guy having sex with a bunch of girls. I’m not sure there’s much more to it than that.

BeltManFen

petermc I've already covered everything you said and, how it would/could be done. This was never a complaint about content.