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Polar If you see something that you think meets these criteria, we want to know about it.

What about stuff like this one ? https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/she-looked-away-for-just-a-second-in-the-park-20100

I mean, I know this is with IPPA regulation so it's not an issue, But did this "theme" isn't a bit off with what you said ? Same with some of TMAVR studio.

I don't want to play censor, after all has long the actress have age check and fully consent to the script they can do whatever they want. But this kind of video is I think, exactly what guys like Exodus Cry are looking for in there crusade against porn.

      Avakian No, you are absolutely correct there. It's gone.

      We actually now have policy which explicitly prohibits content like that. Great catch!

        a year later

        justsomedude101

        Hi @justsomedude101, I’m not trying to stir things up or get suspended. But I did happen to read @LordCrash’s post before it was removed.

        While I certainly wouldn’t have used the wording he used. I have noticed some of the things he mentioned.

        I understand compliance is a very serious issue. And I’m glad you guys are doing what it takes to meet compliance. But it seems you guys are going a lot farther than any other site I subscribe to.

        Are you guys being overly cautious? Or are the other sites not going far enough? I don’t know.

        You might want to have the compliance team take a look at other sites and see if you guys still feel you going about it the right way. Or if you need to reevaluate. Because I have certainly noticed a discrepancy between how SLR and other sites are handling this issue.

        Anyways, just my $.02 FWIW

            bacula8630 Speaking generally - yes, we are being overly cautious on every front when it comes to all thing Compliance. That's a large part of why we've been more aggressive than many other sites, out of an "abundance of caution". Those are just about all the details I have. Personally, I would assume it comes down to other factors as well, for example the size/user base of SLR compared to other VR sites making it a potentially larger focus, wanting to keep ahead of current compliance trends, doing the cost-benefit analysis and deciding losing some subscribers is a safer bet than the risk involved for hosting certain types of content, etc. Again, those are just my personal assumptions.

            Also in general - I have no problem with feedback/criticism of our Compliance process (or pretty much any aspect of the site, lord knows we get plenty of it). In the case of @LordCrash's comment I suspended him because of the verbiage used and the hostility involved, which I've asked him on previous occasions to stop. If someone can read his comment and not understand why it may have seemed out-of-line or could have been written in a less hostile/inflammatory way, then I don't imagine we'll ever see eye-to-eye on it and there's not much left to say.

                justsomedude101

                Fair enough. Especially the part about the size of SLR, and the possibility of coming under greater scrutiny because of it.

                I certainly don’t begrudge you guys for being cautious.

                Appreciate the response. 👍

                  To give you some insight into why we might add prefixes that don't seem to make logical sense, merchants which are treated by the financial industry as high risk get monitored for compliance. A lot.

                  A merchant will be monitored by their own bank, by their payment processors, by those payment processors banks, (of which there are likely to be several,) and sometimes even the banks that those banks partner with for cross currency settlement.

                  All of those banks will have their own slightly different interpretation of the rules, and their own list of stopwords they don't want to see.

                  Some compliance teams will take the time to look at the context of a stopword they find, others will just fire off an email requesting that it is removed, which then takes time and effort to resolve.

                  We know the performers are not actually related. You know the performers are not actually related. The banks know this too. I don't think that a slight amendment to the title is going to seriously damage the ability to suspend disbelief.

                  But it will stop us getting pinged by the crawlers; it means we can spend that time and energy on delivering more content instead.

                    Polar

                    Thanks for the additional insight. I understand this is a complex issue. And I get wanting to remove key words from the titles/descriptions. But your solution seems a little weird to me.

                    Adding prefixes or omitting a letter or two from key words feels like a half measure. A little like trying to game the system. Rather than a comprehensive, well implemented, long term solution. It also feels a little silly to me.

                    I get that going through the titles and descriptions of thousands of scenes is a Herculean task. But this solution doesn’t feel very professional. And a little beneath a company of your stature IMHO. You guys are better than this.

                    Anyways, I’ll shut up about this now. Now that I know what you guys are doing. It doesn’t really interfere with my enjoyment of the scenes. I’m more concerned about re-editing scenes and removing parts that these credit card companies might find objectionable.

                    I know that has nothing to do with you guys. You are at the mercy of these credit card companies. Just like the rest of us. It just annoys me that these credit card companies have so much power over what we watch.

                    Thanks for reading.

                      Once it comes to compliance there is not much to discuss - it has to be one way or another.

                      I'm as much frustrated about it as @LordCrash, yet projecting frustration on SLR people in such a hostile way is not going to help, but turn this place negative.

                      I do agree this sexual wellness thing is bullshit for porn users, yet it's the only concept that gives us a way to get things going.

                      Let's better change social system that constrains our porn freedom.

                      Unless it changes we are stuck with compliance and sexual wellness as the only way to operate the company.

                      One can say all the bad things about compliance, just don't turn it into personal assault

                        doublevr You are right, sometimes letting off steam will end up hitting the wrong target. At the end of the day, I am sure that the vast majority of users very much appreciate that all of you, as @Mutiny once put it, are working your asses off to entertain the hell out of us stepmotherfuckers 😃