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I think your angles are mostly good. Every now and then I come across something that may be a bit too close to the camera - I mean when they are having sex, not when they are leaning towards you or whispering in your ear which is a good thing. Like for example the Trip to Manila, I remember really having to turn my head and wishing they were a bit farther away. I do like it when the girl comes close to you on purpose though or like a missionary face to face.

Looking through some of the comments I see petermc has said something similar in post 12. I don't know how to quote it.

For 2. & 7. I think variety is always a good thing. I would love to see a lot of amateurs and girl next door types. For professionals try to avoid overly tattooed ones.
More black - yes! More asian - yes! More redheads with curly hair and dirty talk - yes!
Interracial? AMWF? absolutely

Anything you can do to inject some kink rather than straight up vanilla would be great though I don't know what exactly would trip these censors hounding you.

Good luck and looking forward to 2022!

7 days later

doublevr any update on the 6DOF? Just wondering when we could expect that. Really curious 🙂 Is another dimension of vr...

    I would love it if you guys leaned more heavily into intimate scenes. For me, the more genuine and personal a scene feels, the better. When I consume non-VR porn, it is almost exclusively amateur porn; professional porn doesn't do anything for me because it feels so fake, formulated, impersonal, and over the top.

    VR can offer an unmatched sense of intimacy by placing you in the scene. It's such a special feeling when the model gets close to the camera, but not enough is done to capitalize upon this. It has been improving, though, with the advent of positions like close missionary.

    As a note, I know that close-ups have issues right now, like the cross-eyed thing, but it actually doesn't bother me all that much. I still get the feeling of being close, and I'd rather have that than pull the camera back and forfeit that feeling. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on that, I can't be the only one who feels that way. It will be nice if the 6DOF thing works out, though.

    Here's a list of things I'd like to see more of:

    • General affection -- in terms of attitude and touching, specific actions below.
    • Model caressing (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
    • Kissing - in general, and in positions where the camera is close to the model's face, e.g. close missionary (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
    • Hugging, wrapping arms around camera (1, 2, 3)
    • Touching camera's "face" (1, 2)
    • Body to body contact (Check 01:02:22 onward in WankzVR's "Elena Koshka GFE", screenshots: 1, 2, 3, 4)
    • Model whispering/talking/breathing close to the camera's "ears" (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
    • Groping the model close-up (1)
    • Eye contact
    • Foreplay / teasing
    • Genuine reactions -- real orgasms, orgasm contractions, body convulsions, real moans, facial expressions, etc.
    • Real couples
    • GFE
    • Cum appreciation
    • Intimate afterglow moments

    In terms of positions:

    • Close missionary
    • Cowgirl with tits/face close to camera, sitting or laying (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
    • Leaning over camera in cowgirl, especially if her hair drapes down (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
    • Standing missionary (1, 2, 3)
    • Pussy/ass eating, front & back -- especially if she gyrates her hips (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
    • Handjob while laying next to you (VRedging does this exceptionally well: 1, 2, 3, 4)

    I think you guys have done an excellent job in terms of lighting, which is important. Especially in scenes like "Baby it's Hot Inside!", "Worth the Wait", "As Seen on TV!" and "Sexual Alchemy: Divine Healing". The soft lighting is great, it helps a ton with immersion. Bright, full-white lighting is a sure-fire way to make something feel fake, so please continue to avoid that.

    When it comes to audio, ASMR-style binaural is the way best to go, though I think you're already there with it, just need to utilize it more. As a quick aside, I personally love hearing how wet a pussy is, so if this can be incorporated at all then that'd be awesome.

    Things to avoid in intimate scenes:

    • The constant, over the top fake moaning and screaming that seems commonplace in professional porn
    • Unconvincing fake orgasms
    • Bright, harsh lighting

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    On a different note, since you mentioned niches, I'm going to list a few ideas and niche moments that left an impression on me:

    • Occasionally, I enjoy non-POV stuff if the angles are right (keep the camera close, people!!), and this scene from perVRt has two moments from 6:30 and 15:50 where the camera is on the floor and close to her ass. You can see her pussy get wet while she's giving a blowjob and some grool drips out. I loved that. It's amazing that this was captured, and from such a perfect angle -- only wish it was in higher quality. Just incredible. Seeing her get fucked from this angle is nice too.
    • Non-POV would be a cool niche to see, though it's difficult to pull off well. Keep the camera close! Maybe you could do a similar thing to perVRt, and offer a non-POV perspective of the same scenes in a separate video?
    • I mentioned it above, but 01:02:22 onward in WankzVR's "Elena Koshka GFE" is an awesome intimate moment.
    • More femdom stuff. "Your Mistress Awaits" is just an excellent scene, I would love more in this style, where the woman takes charge. Love Alex Coal, too.
    • Spit play and drooling into the camera's "mouth" could be a cool niche to see. This JAV scene with Eimi Fukada has a bunch of it and I enjoyed that. It's intimate and feels novel in VR. Honestly, there's a lot that JAV VR porn just does right (though definitely not the censorship or the high-pitched squealing...)
    • POV massage like in this scene, where you're groping Alex Coal's oily ass and pussy. Surprised there isn't more of this already.
    • POV over the knee spanking and groping could be fun, though I appreciate that the angle might be awkward to get a good shot of the model's pussy.
    • Multiple cumshots, cum and keep fucking
    • Creampie gangbangs

    Keep up the great work. As I said, I usually only watch amateur porn but VR porn is such a great experience that I can look past some of the parts of professional porn that I find jarring, and SLR Originals has made some of the best scenes by far, in my opinion. So, thanks, and here's hoping that you can keep up the innovations and improvements.

      plonk Great feedbcak and exactly what we are looking for. We will keep that in mind. 🙏

        plonk A very good post indeed. The only thing I disagree with is the lightning. Not a big fan of the scenes shot in darker settings, because often the colors look off, and the shadows have a great chance of ruining the scene. That is not to say they cant be done, for example the massage scene with Melody is god-tier. More often than not though, its sometimes hard to see the girls eyes properly in certain positions like cowgirl, if the scene is shot with not enough light, or it comes from wrong angles.

        I think the censorship in JAV porn is a blessing in disguise for vr porn, as it has made the directors to pay attention to different things. I think you're already doing a good job of the girls playing with other than just the stuntguys dick, but I think there's still plenty of room to improve if the girls played more with the camera and the guys body. The biggest mistake in threesomes for example is if the other girl is just sitting there while the other is doing the action. In quite a few cases they're also moaning along with the girls being fucked, which I guess is a trait that comes from 2d porn. The longer it goes on, the more annoying it gets.
        Generally I would just say the more the girls show their personality the better. If the scene is just moaning and screaming "fuck me" on repeat, it usually ends up being an average scene. Of course there are differing opinions and some guys just want to see the girls being fucked "pornstar style" , but I think looking at the stats, the more intimate and memorable the scenes are, the better ratings they get.

        I also agree that audio is massively underrated aspect of VR porn. By doing whispering, breathing etc and having it as close to ASMR as possible is a much more effective way to improve a scene than adding a few more pixels to the scene and file size for example. I understand there are some things you have to take into account, like the fact that the guy doing the fucking has to breathe also, but I think thats a problem for all you studios to solve 😃

          glansie thanks! Someone mentioned that the seated part was a tad close and I tend to agree. We lined the camera up with the male performer for a passive head tilt with medium slouch, but it might’ve been more comfortable with more slouch to increase the FOV so Haley’s boob wasn’t all up in your eye for most of that shot.

          I also went from standard seated bj distance to closeup, which I thought might garner some umbrage but no one said anything so yay I guess!

              Vrsumo2017 that angle really depends on the model’s athleticism and flexibility, same goes for the cowgirl stuff.

              “Twister doggy” position gets a lot of complaints from performers as not everyone has rotational flexibility.

              We are now in the Picasso phase of VR porn 😂

                LordCrash No? I have no idea whether that's supposed to be a joke or whether you really think that everyone wants to see that. I like some eye contact but not 100% of the time and it's certainly not the only body part I concentrate on...

                A loud portion of the community fixates on closeup eye contact, so mounting the camera on the female performer’s head would give ‘em what they want I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 😂

                Honestly, sometimes even I’m not sure if I’m joking about that any more.

                    vrfanservice Honestly, sometimes even I’m not sure if I’m joking about that any more.

                    I actually think that there might be a market for a site that just does that - even without any sexual content/activity included. Just a camera filming a women's face the whole day long. There's a market for almost every fetish, isn't it? 😛

                        vrfanservice We lined the camera up with the male performer for a passive head tilt with medium slouch, but it might’ve been more comfortable with more slouch to increase the FOV so Haley’s boob wasn’t all up in your eye for most of that shot

                        I'm sure I've mentioned something along these lines before, but definitely support being slightly more leaned back in sitting positions instead of quite so vertical. Can only speak for myself, but something always feels "off" when I have to look nearly straight down to see my dick (IRL and especially when using VR, there's basically never a time I'm sitting that far upright). And obviously being that upright can have the side effect of the action being too close to the camera once it's going (aka tits basically knocking into the cam and being a blurry mess).

                            LordCrash
                            The VRIntimacy scenes from CzechVR kinda do this.
                            Not only the face, but basically the camera is panning very close over the whole body.

                              plonk I’m literally the exact opposite of this. There’s far, far too much loving intimate GFE stuff in VR porn imo. It’s massively skewed in that direction and SLR Originals is a part of that.

                              I understand that you like amateur porn without the “performance” element and you won’t be alone in that but, for me, it’s called adult entertainment for a reason. I’m not signing up to a pro site to watch amateur porn. Porn is supposed to be entertaining, a fantasy, stuff the average girl doesn’t do in real life. I want the moaning and dirty talk especially in VR when it’s so static and the scenes are generally long. The girl has to involve me in the scene as sitting in silence for 50 min is going to get boring. Yes it can go too far with the moaning and stuff, I agree, but I’d rather have too much than not enough.

                              Don’t get me wrong, there should be room for everything and I hope you get some scenes that you enjoy but I also hope that VR sites start to cater more to fans of more adventurous hardcore porn and not just the girlfriend simulator stuff which seems to account for about 90% of VR porn.

                                  petermc I'm personally hoping things will come full circle and we'll start getting more and more cheesy plots & classic porn acting in some scenes.

                                  I enjoy the GFE much of the time, but definitely agree that it's basically the vast majority of VR scenes these days and it would be nice to have more variety. Not just speaking about SLR but the industry as a whole.

                                      We definitely need more "thick" black girls in VR, This is the only thing I have to complain about the website.

                                      I hope the audio cutting improves. Maybe place a smartphone with a messaging app over/under the camera as a little teleprompter or a dude in back with a whiteboard to reduce the need to speak out guidance. Or record some ambient noise to fill in the cuts when they happen to reduce the impact if the cut is necessary.

                                      justsomedude101 I’m the same, you don’t have to re-invent the wheel, all those cheesy porn tropes still work. The pool boy, the pizza delivery guy, boss and secretary, female boss, school teacher, mechanic, cable guy, stepfamily etc. You don’t have to make it about your girlfriend, it can even be your girlfriend’s sister/mom/best friend.

                                      There’s obviously a place for teen GFE scenes but let’s not make it nearly every scene. I want to fuck some super slutty, dirty talking girls in VR with big fake tits, who can deep throat, who love it in the ass, proper traditional porn.