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jaysingen Card networks, (which mostly means Visa and Mastercard,) have rules which acquirers must adhere to in order to process payments on their network. These rules are all publicly available if you are really interested.
Mastercard has strengthened the rules regarding portrayal of nonconsensual activities, (banned,) live streaming, (content must be able to be removed in real time,) and age verification. Again, if you really want to read the rules they are available. AN 5196 Revised Standards for New Specialty Merchant
Registration Requirements for Adult Content Merchants

SLR has to comply because otherwise acquirers won't transact business with the site. And whilst there are other payment methods such as crypto, the reality is that most business is transacted via Visa and Mastercard, and without the ability to accept those cards you probably don't have a business.

    ironic people complain about JAV censorship when everything else is censored in an even more restrictive way

      lIlllIIl JAV is really strange to me. Like, it's fine for a girl to be groped and raped on a train or whatever but god forbid you see a willy.

      PossiblyAPolarBear Likewise there are VERY good reasons why certain roleplay is verboten. There is significant academic research that shows that certain "pseudo-porn" perpetuates cycles of abuse. Whilst I'm sure we're all good people, we don't exist in a vacuum.

      Yeah, some of that stuff makes me pretty uncomfortable. Not necessarily the plot itself, obviously it's all in character. But just the knowledge that there are people who might be emboldened by it.

            abel906

            it's fine for a girl to be groped and raped on a train or whatever but god forbid you see a willy.

            it's a leftover law from when Japan tried, in a not particularly effective manner to "westernize", or at least to appear to conform to western morals. So they banned "obscenity", but their definition of obscenity allows basically anything as long as genitals are obscured.

            They also banned "prostitution", but only defined prostitution as selling penis-in-vagina intercourse, meaning anything else is legal. And they banned "gambling", but they allow games of chance to be played in exchange for "prizes"... and casinos are often conveniently located next to pawn shops who purchase said prizes.

              doublevr Additionally checking on peeing.

              I'd really like to know the specifics about that one once you have the information you seek since it's one of my favorite kinks and it has imho NOTHING to do with the rest of the stuff discussed here (forced sex, rape fantasies etc.).

              What's the issue with peeing? I mean, it's ok to shoot your cum on a girl's face but you're not allowed to urinate on her with the very same willy? Both are just body fluids, not more, not less. I mean, if pissing is used in a rape fantasy in order to humiliate a girl, it's not the pissing but the whole fantasy which would be "problematic". Same could be said about a facial or creampie or simply every sexual act in the same scenario. I watch A LOT of Legalporno content and pissing is a huge part of their winning formula (and the reason why I pay them so much money...). The girls are always into the watersports themselves and quite regularly they also piss on each other or the guys as well, having a lot of fun doing so. So what's the point? It's forbidden because it's kinky? I don't get it...

                  Pissing? You mean that thing we all do multiple times per day and in videos which it's obvious that the actors have given consent for? can't wait for a few years from now when the only thing allowed in VR is sorority/milf missionary porn. Wait, that's what 99% of it currently is and is why it'll never take off like non-vr streaming sites.

                  Come on, nut up or put up a fight at least.

                    Dsotm3

                    Come on, nut up or put up a fight at least.

                    I should know who is saying this. I'm good taking fights when it makes sense. Feel free to join me

                    Also tell me how pissing is different from shitting from that point of view

                        i wish we could have the chance to download the videos. I really loved the Asian Delight Royal Flush video

                          AzgardCKJ Holy fuck! I was reading this with aloof detachment until I saw this! WTF? That is a great video! I think I have a downloaded copy of it. I hope. I'm away from my home computer . . .

                          And I understand the need to do this. The credit card companies are private businesses and they can refrain from doing business with porn sites if they choose

                          That said, given the market size of porn, you'd think there would be a huge profit in a credit card company that specializes in porn. It would cost a fortune to start up, of course.

                              doublevr Alcohol? Really? IRL, it is quite normal to have consensual sex after a drink or two. I understand that consent may not be possible if someone is blind drunk, but a couple of drinks? Really?

                                I get why someone would be offended by sex scenes where a character is unconscious or forced to have sex. I still don't agree with censoring it unless the actress really was unconscious or forced. It's acting out a fantasy. On the other hand, I don't get "alcohol" at all. What does that have to do with consent? If I'm drunk, I can't consent to sex? Why? Christ, I would never have lost my virginity. Or do they mean exclusively if women are drunk, they can't consent? Isn't that sexist? Besides, most women I know can drink me under the table like Karen Allen with that sherpa in Raiders. Should we ban women from drinking in case they want to have sex after a couple of bacardis? It's nuts.

                                mebejoe Squirting is okay, but not pissing? Some serologists claim they are the same thing.

                                In the UK, squirting is generally equated with urination by our moral guardians. In theory, any video recording sold in the UK has to have a certificate (ratings are not optional as in the US) and all hardcore content goes under the R18 ('restricted adults only') rating, which can literally only be sold in sex shops / adult stores. You would not believe some of the things they demand to be cut, even now. Before about 2000, you literally could not show an erect penis, any kind of oral-genital contact, or any form of penetration. You know, all the good stuff. Urination during sex was and is a huge no-no and squirting was routinely equated with it as supposedly the censors, sorry, 'classifiers' thought that the fluid ejected during squirting is urine.

                                Of course, now that times have moved on and most people get their porn on the internet (and videos on the internet don't require certification, and/or are coming from outside the country), all content providers have to worry about in our glorious 'free' country is whether their content is legally 'indecent', which these days basically means hardcore BDSM, necro porn, bestiality and anything that even hints at anyone being underage. Or pretending to be. Or looking like they are. UK-based porn sites can and do get in trouble for borderline content when it's complained about, and there are grass-roots organisations of ultra-prudes like MediaWatch (which has just closed down - yay!) who make it their business to complain about any and all porn. Thus far, except for the odd foolish attempt to introduce compulsory age verification as a vote-winner, our politicians are largely turning a blind eye to mainstream porn. Which was a huge attitude shift, back in the day. So not rocking the boat and avoiding the edgier stuff is the order of the day over here.

                                And all of that is before you get into the commercial problems around running a porn site like the ones SLR is having here!

                                    mebejoe That said, given the market size of porn, you'd think there would be a huge profit in a credit card company that specializes in porn. It would cost a fortune to start up, of course.

                                    That's why crypto was invented, to purchase guns, drugs and porn...

                                    I wish the whole porn industry would just show the finger to the credit card industry and use their own crypto for exclusive payment. Should be a combined effort of all the big players in the industry, working together in order to fight that pseudo-politics anti-freedom puritan bullshit. I know that it will be a pain in the ass for many porn consumers to use crypto for the first time but that will pass. It's doable if people in the industry just had the courage and persistence to go for it...

                                        LordCrash Not going to happen. Crypto is still extremely niche and porn subscriptions are very frequently the definition of an "impulse" purchase. Any friction added to the sales funnel will lead to a precipitous drop in conversions. Like it or not, the card networks are essential to any business, which means their rules need to be adhered to.

                                        You may think that it is problematic that two private companies wield so much power over the rest of the world, and you would be correct, but this is something that can only be tackled via the legislature or the courts.

                                            PossiblyAPolarBear
                                            The world isn't just the US, it's much bigger. Only the Americans are 100% dependent on credit cards for whatever reason. At least that's what everybody says and apparently every American feels...

                                            There are more options for such transactions though, not only credit cards or crypto. One example is "Paysafecard" which is a very simply system in which you buy a one-time disposable card in e.g. a gas stations or supermarkets for 50 or 100 bucks and then you can use it for whatever transaction you want on the internet as long as the vendors offers it - with the side benefit that the transaction is also completely anonymous...

                                            And yes, such a shift away from credit cards would result in quite some friction and lost sales in the short run. But imho at some point the porn companies have to fight back instead of just swallowing any censorship that is pushed onto them by these fucking credit card companies. That's why I think it should be a joint effort of the big porn companies. Talking nicely to the banks doesn't help at all. You need to hit them where it hurts, their profits. If the whole porn industry turned their back on credit cards the banks would probably notice that in their books - and it might lead to them reconsidering their take on censorship and gatekeeping...

                                                Alright this has gotta stop. This borderline censoring has been slowly eating away at things we enjoy. I call for all those who are willing to make a change, why can't we just build a new payment processing system which can be used by everyone and out of the radar of these mofos like mastercard and visa? Let them lose all their porn business in one shot. The corporate bastard share holders only respond to one thing. When they lose their precious money. They will bend their knees, but it would be too late by then.

                                                Why can't we make it happen?