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  • Looking to re-brand SexLikeReal into sexual wellness product

catflap I mean the same thing tastes differently depending how you pack it. It's a known fact. We are staying on a positive side of things what can induce even more of a positive change for sexual exploration

      doublevr one thing I would love, even if you lost half of your models, is for us to know that they are really enjoying what they do and victims of trafficking or whatever -
      I know you said it isnt a problem (great!) but I would love to know I wasnt harming anyone.
      There are a couple of video sites which give me those vibes to be honest.

      Anyway that is my opinion on how to be involved with "sexual wellness" - to recognize that there are actresses who are 100% into what they do, and those are the only ones that I will ever see on SLR + its affiliates 😄

          catflap

          There are a couple of video sites which give me those vibes to be honest.

          Can you point these out to me? I will check it out.

              catflap so far we don't have even a slight evidence of anything like that being featured on SLR. I can't imagine anything like that happening in our eco-system. Why would anyone do that if you have a sound market available at reasonable prices? And if any of that happens you have twitter at your immediate disposal.

              Things changed a lot over time. VR standards is way above flat porn. You can think of VR as the next level which is yet to become a global mainstream product. With such a strong foundation I highly doubt we will ever witness a major abuse or harassment unless some few exceptions within statistical expectations which we will be quick to address.

              SLR took a number of stands and principal decisions over time. No one here is interested to mess things up what is expected to be something exceptionally great.

                  Polar let me give it some thought and mail you directly (if that is possible)

                      TLDR: there is still more that can be done to make your users feel the porn is being made ethically and the site is truly setting the standard for accountability and compliance. Give your models a platform to have a voice and hold producers accountable, fix payment processing, improve 2257 documents, add RTA and ASACP certifications, add parental controls, and surface all the compliance work you are doing to create the new standard onto your landing page so users see it.

                      Grab a coffee this is a long one.

                      Let me start by saying by no means do I want this to come off as disrespectful, these are only my views and opinions on how to make users feel more comfortable in the site as it’s rebranded as sexual wellness.

                      I appreciate how engaged the SLR team is with their users and how active the forums are. It gives a voice to the users and helps build a community around a great product. Honestly I stop into the forum before looking at the new videos now.

                      doublevr i agree with catflap on this one. It’s great that SLR takes compliance seriously and you say it isn’t a problem but saying it, and making users existing and especially new truly believe it are two different things. If you truly believe there isn’t anything shady going on with any vent content producer anywhere I fear that may be a head in the sand approach. Instead actively seek it out to weed out any problems before it turns into a porn hub situation years later.

                      Don’t be Nike in the 90s providing lip service to the public while knowing there are sweatshop conditions going on in the factories. https://www.newidea.com.au/nike-sweatshops-the-truth-about-the-nike-factory-scandal

                      RTA Parental controls, & ASACP
                      SLR is the only porn site in recent memory that doesn’t have an RTA overlay on the landing page, or an RTA logo/link in the footer. There is no mention of parental controls or safe browsing guidelines. There is no link to asacp certification. There are no brag links to articles about SLR were mentioned in well known publications (like vrporn.com)

                      2257 & MasterCard
                      Finally the 2257 statement puts the onus on the user to go out to all the dozens of studios to validate they have a 2257 compliance location instead of listing all the information for the user (like xhamster a top 5 largest porn site https://xhamster.com/info/2257 ). Or even better stating in your 2257 statement that you are keeping records of all information now because while SLR is not an American company required by law to keep that information, In all your compliance work to be compliant with MasterCard processing which is an American company any porn site must keep records of all performers and content depicted on their site regardless if they are producer or a secondary service. https://www.mastercard.com/news/perspectives/2021/protecting-our-network-protecting-you-preventing-illegal-adult-content-on-our-network/

                      If you have all that information listed above there is no reason why you can’t use the metadata from the video to post the publication date of video under its if and model age at publication under the model in the video details.

                      Payment processing
                      A final note about MasterCard is finding a way to make us payment processing work better. Many have stated on other threads that billing fails because most US payment processors don’t work with epoch in EU but how does your general user know that is the reason and not some other reason like MC flagged this as a non-compliant site .

                      Surface your compliance work.
                      After all of this there could be blog posts or even something in your banner spinner that link to all the compliance work you are doing and surface it for all users to see, instead of burying this information deep within the forum. It could even show what the various rules are country by country and how you have cataloged them all

                      Models
                      Hold your producers to the highest standards, provide interviews with the models, give them a platform to speak so we know they want to be here and like doing this, and don’t feel coerced, forced or that they don’t have a voice. https://goat.com.au/relationships/mia-khalifa-speaks-out-shining-a-troubling-light-on-the-porn-industry/?amp You see in this post Mia Khalifa talk about her bad experience, but still defends people’s choices and pushes for ethical porn practices while Abella Danger defends the industry. There are different views, and I know me as a user I want to make sure models are being treated on the ethical side of the industry, and have a way to tell/show us that with interviews on their profiles, or special Live AMAs during a shoot in your live section. In addition to providing them a place to speak it all translates to views for you and site . People like hearing from the real model look at the gabby Carter interview 45k views in 1 month. https://youtu.be/8UZ8beflRb0

                      I’m Sure this post isn’t going to win me any friends here after reading all the comments on the compliance thread but at the end of the day if it’s about becoming a site synonymous with sexual health and wellness then users need to feel like they are in a safe space and not in some shady site on the internet.

                      I’m sorry for the long post but this is something I have been thinking about for a while as I have silently watched this and the various compliance threads grow over time.

                          Sperson we are in touch with multiple producers. we don't expect them to be a part of something bad. also these things spread out lighting fast these days.

                          so far there's no evidence of any wrongdoing. it's also true that we are not going to police things

                            doublevr Sexual health, when viewed affirmatively, requires a positive and respectful approach to sexuality and sexual relationships, as well as the possibility of having pleasurable and safe sexual experiences, free of coercion, discrimination and violence.

                            Is it really policing things or is it or is it living up to the exact definition you posted in this thread by creating an inclusive environment with maintained and public assurances this is all ethically created porn.

                            I don’t know anyone that expects someone they are in contact with to be bad, but it happens.

                              That's a valid point

                              VR porn has eliminated my desire to cheat on my girlfriend

                              I'm a man who's been in a LTR for many years, ever since I was a teenager. I've been with few partners and have always felt a desire to be with other women, but refrained from doing so because I'm in a wonderful relationship with a wonderful person. I'm sure many of you can relate.

                              I've been doing the VR porn thing about once a month, and it has honestly brought me some peace of mind. I actually feel now that I know what it would be like to be with other women (and not just any other women but very attractive women). It demystifies the experience. You realize that, yeah, it's great, but it's also not worth obsessing about.

                              You get to enjoy the variety while also not fucking up your personal life.

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/comments/u509bo/vr_porn_has_eliminated_my_desire_to_cheat_on_my/

                              WATCH some kink dot come clips to the VERY end

                              solves a lot of issues...all movie makers should have a cooling-off period afterward with an interviewer. it's more content btw and sometimes hearing about the scene from the players or the girl is very cool

                              the stuff I would make is pretty HARD...it would need this type of thing at the end.

                                doublevr changed the title to Looking to re-brand SexLikeReal into sexual wellness product .
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                                mnmlikereal TBH I don't know that this is in our "wheelhouse" since it's not directly VR-related, but tbh just personally I feel like it would be a great thing to have available for people who need or want it. Shout out to reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/ who already create great audio content that would work perfectly for this type of thing.

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                                  spanker those interviews after the scene can be coerced though. Not suggesting Kink.com do that as they are a reputable company who’ve been around forever but I have heard girls say they are told to do the interview after the scene or they will not get paid.

                                  I think, if you’re shooting harder, rougher content, an interview beforehand would work where the girl is asked what she is expecting from the scene and what her limits are. Just a quick question like “what’s gonna happen today?” and the girl tells us what is going to happen. If she is not explicit, the guy can then ask “can I do x to you”, “can I do y to you” etc. That way we know it’s all agreed beforehand and we’re not relying on a possibly traumatised girl saying it was ok after the event.

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                                    it's possible those things could happen...if girls told you something like that

                                    the problem for the company? a longterm VIABLE company? those type of things would be getting out...even IF it happened only one time.

                                    the girl gets paid. she's probably telling her porn friends and they certainly ain't going to work there? or will they?

                                    she won't be going back to work for them...OR will she?

                                    every little thing AIN'T going to be perfect

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