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I would like to talk about this issue because I think it is important.

I only visit one of them but the models work hard, many times with insane schedules and endless shifts, many of them must be very tired. They also have to have pressure to do well for their studios and for themselves, it's a job, sometimes we forget that. But also, and this is what I want to discuss, they have to deal with people who just want to watch, without paying. Plus many of them don't even make conversation with the model or don't say anything, making it even more weird and creepy for the models. Imagine being 8, 10, 12 hours exposed in front of a camera knowing that people are watching you, watching a whole show (working, don't forget that) for free, without saying anything to you. I'm sure some models feel intimidated by that or get nervous at the thought of it. Causing them to feel worse, it's something that affects them mentally. And they don't have options to combat that problem here. When they can't take it anymore, they avoid leaving their shift because they get fined and their relationship with their studio gets worse.
I think there should be talks with the studios to review and improve their working conditions but that's another topic to discuss in another thread.

And I'm not talking about forcing people to talk, that's absurd. But I do think SLR can do some things to improve the experience for models, like giving them more options or setting certain limits. And I want to make it clear before I say anything that this should be just an option.I understand that webcams to a certain extent is free because it serves as a promotion for the models themselves and for the site and putting limits in itself does not help in any way. But why not give the model the option to activate a maximum time viewing mode for unregistered users? Or have a spy mode where anyone who wants to keep watching if a show starts can do so by contributing to the work and effort of the model. And I speak of this as an option, if the model wants to activate them or not it would be up to her. I think these simple options would improve the experience a bit.

It's good to talk about technical things, to have options on the web or the App, in short to discuss so that the user can have the best experience. But, sometimes, I think we forget the other part, the other side, the human side.Personally sometimes I feel bad for the model and trying to make them feel at ease by giving them more options to feel better in their work should be a priority because that in the end is going to have an impact on everyone.

Models need recognition and remuneration for their efforts, passion and dedication. Creating tools for them and a better environment for that should be everyone's responsibility, especially in a job like theirs where they are so exposed.

    Philip I read it and i agree with @UrsRuettli but my thread is more what can SLR do for models with web tools to help and protect them. What about some restrictions for unregistered users? What about a spy mode?
    I have seen how for example the model activated the private mode here because in another site the model was having a good experience but here nobody was giving her tips and if she didn't do it she was giving a show for free, feeling uncomfortable and losing some income. With the spy mode she could do the same and if someone here wanted to see her they could do it but giving tokens to the model and rewarding her.
    I would like SLR to provide those options that other websites already have. Some users abuse the system and this makes the models feel worse. I'm not saying it's your responsibility, but if you can do something to improve the experience here, you should do it.

      Darkpri and @UrsRuettli ... I can relate to where you guys are coming from. But there are always two sides to every story and I think in the end we have to remember what we are here for, to each their own. It's been several months since I've been in cams and I know what you're talking about with people not paying; but there were also people who were paying gratuitously even if the model didn't get nude, and of course not all models are treated equally, neither are all viewers treated equally. On the flip side, it hurts the same when you don't have enough money to pay when you really want to, or if you do pay then it's not enough, or you pay big and the model doesn't follow through, or when the model's attention is focused on her larger 2D cam audience instead of us VR folks.

      There's an interesting parallel between workers, employers, and OSHA laws being established to prevent worker discrimination; kind of what we're hinting with SLR or Dreamcam to do for VR cam girls. It's great and doing what can be done to help the cam girls would be helpful, but even these entities can be blindsided by uncontrollable events or be abused by higher powers like what's happening in the news today with the President pushing OSHA to mandate employers cripple certain employees. That's when personal responsibility comes into action. What can we do ourselves to make the situation better without compromising what we feel in our hearts? For companies, they could be tackling the biggest problems in order to keep the business going, while the smaller minority concerns have to be put on the sidelines. From the outside, it might look bad, but under the circumstances we all are trying to make the right decisions. For those losing their jobs standing up for their freedom, it looks bad, but to them it's the right decision. In the end they are responsible for their own lives despite how they are being negatively perceived. Likewise the models are responsible for their life choices despite how we may perceive their situations without seeing the whole picture.

      Try not to be too hard on yourselves, at some level we all signed up for this (pun not intended). We are generally getting what we want, including the models. Some of us have certain challenges like not having a source of income, slower download speeds, lower quality headsets, not having the peace-of-mind benefit of watching VR Porn whenever we want, or can't stream without buffering issues, as was my case not able to watch cams anymore because Dreamcam upped their stream-quality. However, whenever we are satisfied, unsatisfied, or things are just not working, it's natural for us to give up, retire, try something else, or just move on. And that's fine, that's how things are, that's how jobs, employment, and recreational activities are.

      Personally, as I felt the same way, I made the decision to not go into cams unless I had tokens to give. It takes time to get to that frame of mind and not every one gets there, but at least we can help in that capacity. If a greater number did the same thing, the outcome would be different and these concerns wouldn't exist. But right now at the very least we feel better knowing we gave and did our part and they will feel better and be encouraged to continue another day. We raised awareness of the situation but they also have a responsibility to raise their concerns to their producers if they have any. If it's really bad and they all quit, then change will happen much faster. We all have a part to play, but it's not for any of us to play the WHOLE part.

      On a side note it's great that we have forums to discuss things like this. Naughty America changed their web page design which eliminated the dates from their releases and apparently have VR On-Demand videos now. I can't raise an issue and question what's going on because they don't have a forum, so I have to deal with it or unsubscribe. It's a minor concern, but rather than attaching to only that viewpoint, I thought about it another way which relates to this thread. While there are things SLR/Dreamcam can do to improve, they are already more improved than other studios in some area (they have a forum/support staff). And while the cam girls may experience their share of short-term grievances, there are thousands of other workers experiencing long-term grievances from their employers, under more hazardous or laboring conditions. Putting things in perspective, acknowledging the good in the bad, and finding a compromising stance helps ease apparent concerns because it could always be worse. We are all going through these issues one way or the other, in public or in private. Really, we need just as much compassion with ourselves to be neutral sometimes after doing what we can, but that's just me and everyone operates differently which is normal. Sorry for the long response, but glad to have shared some input, and glad to know there are still humane beings out there ... even if we do watch porn 😄

          abcrebel
          Interesting (and very long 😉 text! Thank you!

          And of cause there are different sites.... the world is not black or white it is "gray".
          But sometimes you must decide on which site you are. Because otherwise nothing will change.
          You will be forever trapped in the "middle".

          But this beside... we are talking here about hard working people, that in the most cases fulfill our sexual dreams for some Tokens. And i think we should care about them. More than we care about technical issues, or what pornstar should go live on cam, or which high tech gear we use to jerk off.

          And yes.... there are many, many people on this world, working under much harder conditions!
          But.... so what? We are here.... so this is our playground. 🙂

          Regards
          Urs