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Hello!

First of all, I would like to say that I am not a moralist. i am here to pay girls for websex like everybody else.
And the sex business has its dark side and every adult know that.

Personally, I access the webcams through SLR because I think it is a premium service that takes care about the girls in front of the camera, doing their job under fair conditions.

Unfortunately, I have noticed more and more that, some Russian studios in particular, see things differently.
The girls there are of cause not be underage, but they are very very young.
And they are changing constantly! Every day again some new faces.
And you can tell right away that the most of them are not really happy with the job.

And the boundaries are shifting more and more. The pressure from the studios seems to grow.
For example, the models now show much more in open chat than they did some months ago.
But fun really ends when you see models, which is unfortunately not uncommon, who are dead tired but have to keep awake to avoid paying a fine.
Or they are so emotionally overwhelmed that they stop the stream again and again, or even start crying.
Some of them also have clearly issues with they're mental health.

Again... I'm not a moralist, and all what i told can happen...
But I've been having these experiences much more during the last weeks.
I just would be happy if SLR kept track of this.

Thanks
Urs

    UrsRuettli As everywhere, no matter the job (sex or not), there are exploited people, people who don't like their work, pressure...

    On the other hand, unless I missed something, how does this message concern SLR?

    They use models from Eastern countries?

    If not, why such a rant here?

      midorijin

      Thats not a "rant" its just a question with explanation.
      Why asking SLR? Who else should i ask? SLR is my door to that world and the service i pay.

        SLR uses 3rd party cam provider, therefore we aren't choosing who gets to work and who doesn't as a company. All people on the site, both cam and videos are over 18 years old and working by their personal choice to do so.

        On the other note many people in the world are not happy with their jobs. As an adults everyone is welcome to try one thing or another and see what works best for them, be it a job in macdonalds or webcam. Some of girls make a great salary for where they live.

          UrsRuettli SLR manages SLR and nothing else.
          If liveshows on SLR had the same problems as you say, ok, but I don't understand.

          It's like (a simple example) you find abnormal that the Japanese government allows dolphin fishing, but it's to the American government that you'll complain.
          No, you're going to complain to the Japanese government.

          Well, it's the same, if the problem is not on SLR, it's useless to complain about it on SLR.

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            UrsRuettli

            And they are changing constantly! Every day again some new faces. And you can tell right away that the most of them are not really happy with the job.

            New faces don't bother me at all. (In the past some viewers complained that it's always the same faces.) I do get the feeling that some of the new models have been inadequately coached on how to "work the camera". The cam supervisors should be doing more to help them adapt. Some people think it sounds like a good job, but then try it and can't easily manage, due to their involuntary psychological reactions to the situation. And even if they suffer from chronic depression, shouldn't they still be given the opportunity to cam if they want to try?

            For maximum efficiency, VR Cam shows need to be done in a VR "cam house", to obtain maximum use of the expensive VR equipment, and to assist if there are lighting or camera problems. I see no problem with that as long as the models are treated fairly.

            And the boundaries are shifting more and more. The pressure from the studios seems to grow.
            For example, the models now show much more in open chat than they did some months ago.

            Some models might garner more tips being explicit in free open chat, while other models earn more in private chat. Every time a model enters private chat, the other viewers who were watching the public chat will drift away to other cam rooms. When the model returns to open chat, she has to rebuild her audience again. A model would likely prefer to do whichever earns her the most during a session, as long as it's her choice. Many of the models will still only do some things in private.

            The cam studio can use statistics to guide the cam girls. What is the average duration of time between a viewer entering and leaving the cam room for each model? Aside from explicitness and physical beauty, what are the longer-viewer-duration models doing?

            Or they are so emotionally overwhelmed that they stop the stream again and again, or even start crying.

            Camming in that setup can be very tough. (Not that there's much comparison, but acting in a play on stage sounds like lots of fun until you go on stage and get stage fright. But the show must go on.) Each day the girls are going to work, not knowing how much money they will earn from tips today, or to what extent they will have to deal with the annoying freeloaders who want to have a long free sex chat in the open chat, or viewers who demand/ask for something without tipping, or are disrespectful, or who try to barter down the menu price for something. (On DeoVR, any tip not divisible by 5 is non-intuitive for newcomers. So all menu prices should be divisible by 5.) I can easily imagine, while a model is doing a generic sex kitten routine, she is screaming in her head, "Tip me, you assholes!" And eventually some viewer might tip one token (the equivalent of a customer in a strip club walking up to the stage and tossing a dime on the stage). When she leaves work at the end of her shift, she might understandably feel stressed out after trying so hard to coax tips from the viewers.

            I think VR camming has enormous unrealized potential, but this site is mostly doing just VR of normal 2D camming behavior. Still, there's enough to keep me returning for now.

              Honkster

              Yes i agree with all you wrote! Its a though business! Thanks for your long and interesting perspective on that!
              I am here for many months now and i just asked my question, because my feeling (based of experience) is, that all what you describe is getting harder during the last Weeks.... And as you say :" I see no problem with that as long as the models are treated fairly." ... but at some points i had my doubts...

              Philip
              Thanks for you answer! Now i found the origin Provider.... and of cause.... he has bo forum! 🙂)
              Just one thing more: I am just a normal user of SLR/DEO and i can not see your business connections.
              At the end... for me as for the most other SLR customers... these girls seem to work for SLR....

              midorijin
              Yes... but if the US would be the biggest import country of dolphin meat, i could help.
              Because then the US has an influence of the Japanese market.... 😉

                UrsRuettli But this is not the case, just as (at least for the moment), the liveshows of SLR are not subject to the conditions that you denounce.

                  midorijin
                  Sorry... but if SLR buys the VR stuff from another provider, they are of cause able to speak to them if something is wrong! I am sure they do it when there are technical issues, as an example...